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QUOTE (Knackattack @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 04:16 PM) Why would we trade Adam Eaton? He is one of the top 3 bats on the team and an above average offensive CF signed cheap This is like the problem I run into on OOTP -- how do I improve the team without gutting it? I can tell you that when you try and trade the guys that have trade value it usually means you're making the team worse in the short term for no guarantee of long term improvement. Guys like Q and Eaton shouldn't just be thrown out as "trade assets" because hell, those are two of the best players in the team. Without either, they'd really be in trouble and there's no guarantee what they'd get back would amount to anything. Especially given that KW is likely to be the final say.

Trayce has also been great on the bases according to Fangraphs. This kid needs to play. He could be one of those guys whose athletic skills just translate better in MLB for whatever reason. The parks are bigger, the balls are hit harder and a gifted natural athlete like Trayce might be able to make it work. It doesn't hurt anyone to play garcia at DH the rest of the way and let Trayce see 150 PA before the season is over.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 04:07 PM) I don't think it was a "fluke", I think Kenny remains a solid judge of baseball talent (see Jose Abreu) and that was a key part of him being able to build the team in the 2005 year. I think that Kenny moved from that technique - building a ballclub through shrewd acquisition and development of undervalued talent - to a strategy that is going in the wrong direction, as more resources became available to him. He went from signing an undervalued Japanese 2b and a RF coming off injury and a catcher no one wanted to paying big time prices for guys in trades and on the FA market, a strategy that minimized his own skills. He was able to do that because more resources became available (money) after the WS win and because he continued trying to "win now" at all costs. He no longer could take time to develop a pitcher like Jon Garland, who had 3 mediocre full seasons following 2 mediocre part seasons before he snapped off his solid 2005, because he couldn't spend 3 years turning a guy into a useful piece. good post I think he also started to believe he was some once in a lifetime talent evaluater. As I say often, he was probably fooled by randomness like Garland developing, Tad coming through, etc. When the random luck changed he doubled down on bringing in boom or bust guys thinking they'd mostly boom like before because of something the Sox were doing. TUrns out it wasn't anything but luck really.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 01:53 PM) 2014 Alexei was rated 11th out of 22 qualified shortstops defensively by Fangraphs, and with a .713 OPS and roughly average baserunning he was worth 3.1 WAR. Castro was 13th defensively (though a pretty decent gap from Alexei) and had a .777 OPS and 2.8 WAR, but he was terrible on the basepaths. Using this as a rough baseline the theoretical season above should definitely be above 3 WAR. Thanks for running the numbers. I think we'll all be thrilled if Anderson comes close to his ceiling. Guys like him don't come along too often.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 02:47 PM) A .750 OPS, neutral defense, and strongly positive on the basepaths? That sounds like >3 to me right there. , well that would be good too. Hard to tell with the positional adjustments. IIRC I just saw something on how the positional adjustments for '16 might credit ss and catcher and cf less and 1B and DH more based on recent trends at the positions. You'd think it would be easy to find a DH that can OPS 800, but apparently it's pretty hard these days. Any Sox fan can f***ing tell ya that I guess.

One nice thing is that if Tim Anderson can play run neutral defense and slash 290/320/430 with 25/30 SB he's gonna be a 3 WAR SS. The position is that weak right now.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 11:08 AM) Considering that neither one plays another position, there is absolutely nothing wrong with combining their stats to assess your catching situation. Our catchers are pretty much middle of the pack across all of MLB. fWAR - 1.4 (16th) wRC+ - 88 (13th) AVG - .228 (18th) OBP - .291 (20th) SLG - .390 (15th) HR - 16 (12th) RBI - 49 (17th) Hawk's absolutely right when he says our catchers aren't the problem. There is really a lack of quality catchers in baseball and the days of catchers being big time offensive contributors are over. The catchers aren't the problem, but does anyone think Tyler Flowers is the solution? Even if you believe the pitch framing numbers as both predictive and accurate you can AT BEST make an argument that Tyler Flowers is an average starting catcher. That is absolute at best. Middle case he's bottom 1/3 starter and that's where I'd put him. I do agree with Hawk and your post however -- catcher isn't the team's biggest problem. That would be 3B, RF and SS. Ramirez has been f***ing awful it's time to cut bait on him.

Mediocre outing at best. Angels don't exactly have a good offense at the moment and those were some meatballs early.

I'm sick of seeing Jose getting a steady diet of inside s***. That's what having no protection does. Nobody is afraid of putting him on for Melky and Avi.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 18, 2015 -> 11:04 PM) That was a filthy play regardless to save extra bases. The brooks Robinson comment is so out of context. It's just laughable at this point all around.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 18, 2015 -> 11:02 PM) ...that...that was bad I thought so too then I realized he was at least a foot off the bag it wouldn't have mattered anyways. Throw was almost 5 feet wide or so on replay.

instant karma for hawk and his brooks robinson bs. Kids good but let's be real

ugly swings out there so far

QUOTE (harkness @ Aug 18, 2015 -> 10:36 AM) Hard to make any real conclusions from those stats... Looks like an exercise in randomness. Yes, and people are being fooled by randomness. We want to assign narratives to everything. CERA is useless it has zero predictive value.

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/6/19...yone-stop-using

I seriously can't believe this CERA thing has actually become A THING. FFS, you'd think Tyler f***ing Flowers was Johnny Bench. It's a small sample size fluke. Shark throwing meatball after meatball that doesn't even reach the catcher's glove has zero to do with who is catching him. The White Sox' insane love for Flowers has permeated some the brains on this forum with its insidious insanity.

great start from Rodon.

now he f***ing PHs? GMAFB

poor jose lol gets hit twice now running wind sprints on 3-2.

why the f*** is beckham still here?

rodon has pitched well to trout.

haha, of course.

or, the inverse "gets pull happy", aka Dayan Viciedo syndrome.

pretty great plate coverage to line a ball into left on the outside corner.

hell yea great job carlos and jose