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the problem with using WAR to project is that WAR is a description of what happened, not "what's going to happen".

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 11:09 PM) Twins tied up the game in the 8th vs. the Tigers.....and then Torii Hunter and Miggy went back-to-back to lead off the 9th. Sigh. wtf do we care? let the twins lose. draft pick?

Hey, good job Danks, didn't see his start, was at work, but looks good in the box score. How was he getting his Ks? I still think he's toast but hey give credit where credit is due. f***ing 8th in typical sox this year.

His FIP is 4.86. That's one of the worst in the league. OH BUT THATS SABERMETRICS. His ERA is 4.99. I screwed up his contract stats but who cares, he's been f***ing awful. Anyways, go Sox. The guys they need to produce to win in '15 are producing so that's nice.

CHRIS SALE IS f***ING AWESOME YEA ALL THE PROFILES FOR SALE.

John Danks tonight's prediction: 5.2ip, 5ER, 6H, 1HR, 3BB, 3K. He's been (literally) one of the 3 worst starters in baseball this year. Most pitchers that are this bad don't get to keep getting to start games. But hardly any have 50 some million left on their deal either. Stupid injuries.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 04:09 PM) If Carroll has a broken fingernail or whatever, they should just finish it out with Danks, Bassitt, Sale, Quintana, and Noesi. I really don't care if Sale makes two or three starts, but my point is if they want to give Sale three starts, they can without pitching him on short rest. It didn't seem like Ventura was even aware of that. Par for the course for Robin.

I am completely apathetic about PK's last couple weeks but this is the last time I've followed a ~75 win Sox team this late into September. The team has a lot of new pieces, exciting new pieces even if there is much more to be done. I'm glad that PK was able to help out with Jose's transition (Jose said so himself otherwise I'd discount it) but he should have hung it up awhile ago.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 01:41 PM) The follow up question should have been: Will he start on the 17th, 22nd or 23rd, and the 28th? He doesn't have to pitch on short rest to get 3 more starts. Eh, no reason to push him. He did well to come back from the muscle strain and put up a Cy Young caliber season. Let him make a couple more starts and give the other one to bassitt or hell even Noesi or something.

If anything Tank has the opportunity to prove he should be "in the mix" for next year but if there is an upgrade available at 1B/DH/LF then obviously you take it. And let's be honest say absolute best case Viciedo turns into a league average 1B that hits 260/300/450 -- that's still hardly even a 1.5 WAR player -- and that's best case. I just don't see him ever having enough power to carry his lack of fielding.

Viciedo honestly looked better when he was just coming up then he does now. I have no idea what happened but his swing is actually worse now than in 2008. Maybe it was the wrist injury but his top hand action is MIA and has been for a couple of years. SSS did a look at Viciedo today and I will say in two words what they tried to say in 2000: he sucks. His "power" is really just an artifact of "swing hard in case you hit it". Now that works fine for some guys but Viciedo can't generate any power with max effort swing and his max effort swing sucks. He pops so many balls up because he drops his back shoulder and instead of powering through the ball he is off balance. Now obviously if there were easy fixes they'd have been made but Tank just isn't that talented of a hitter, or player for that matter.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 04:10 PM) With the weather the past couple of days, this, combined with an early game yesterday and NFL in the evening, it really does feel like fall. Here in Seattle it's still 75 and sunny (typical summer weather). Even though the days are getting shorter I'm hoping the warm weather lasts well into the fall. El Nino is predicted so that means a wet warm winter for the west coast -- not sure about Chicago but it can't be any worse than last year right Chicagoans?

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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 12:04 PM) The kind of crap I do when I'm bored at work on a Friday afternoon: Chris Sale averages 1.087 K/IP. If he averages 1.35 IP per team game played, which rates out to 218.7 IP per season, he will break the franchise strikeout record in June 2019, or just a couple months after his 30th birthday. Wow, knock on wood he stays healthy. Some good posts on the Cy Young here. I agree that Chris and Felix are equal enough on rate to where Felix's "extra" 40 or so innings should give him the Cy. Chris has had an excellent year but Felix has done about the same with more innings so in fairness the Cy should go to him.

yes eaton has to play at least 130 games next year otherwise forget it. He's the difference between 82 wins and 86 probably and maybe even 87 if he can play 150.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 10:32 PM) Keep in mind that Rock thinks Avi Garcia is the next Ordonez I think Avi can be a 290/330/500 type with average defense and above average running. All things considered in today's s*** offensive environment that's a 4 war player. (hi Adam Eaton). That's about as good as Maggs was. Maybe his peak won't quite be as good as Maggs' but he could have a very similiar impact.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 10:26 PM) I believe they think one other good pitcher with Sale and Q as well as a reliable pen could contend right now. One bat and it could win. Mind you thats with a fully healthy squad. IMO they need a really good LH hitter. Wilkins is NOT the answer we can hope. history hasn't been that kind recently.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 10:13 PM) IMO, I believe we can contend with a better pen, one good arm in the rotation and maybe one solid bat (not middle of the order). change that to two bats and I agree. Tall order in one offseason. If Avi takes a big leap forward and Jose doesn't regress too badly OK maybe one but ideally they better production from at least LF and 2B and probably C and one of DH/1B. Where that comes from who knows and Sanchez may be the answer but not everything is going to break right and I don't think the Sox can expect to contend with all of Sanchez/Semian, Viciedo and Flowers in next years opening day lineup.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 06:00 PM) Speaking of which, does anyone know the last time an AL pitcher has done that? Pedro in 2000 had an ERA of 1.74. That was an ERA plus of (get ready...) 291. Sale's ERA+ is "only" 190. Pedro Martinez is possibly the greatest pitcher of all time. You check his B-Ref page and it blows you away. Dude was dominating during the steroid era, just filthy.

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QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 04:35 PM) I think 8-8 will keep them in the top 10, and since I predicted 74-88 before the season started, I'd take that. I think I went with 77 and 85 or something like that so a bit optimistic but if Avi didn't get injured they'd probably be a couple games better. The rest of the injuries were just the usual stuff but Avi's was a bit of a freak play.

pushing Oakland fans over the ledge has been a lot of fun these past few days. Good job Sox. Avi starting to find a little rhythm at the plate. Good to see.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 11:26 PM) 65th win! I'm all for tanking but this win feels good wins are always good we're not gona get a top 5 pick. that was a good win and once again the "right" guys are coming through...team still needs a boatload more talent though. Seems to be heading in the right direction though. This team is all together much improved (and cheaper and younger) than last year's finishing bunch.

lol people are writing off Garcia? Come on if healthy he's a 4 tool player. Check the projections on him as well, it's not just scouts that love him he's projected for around 10 WAR through age 27. It's terribly over used but his hit tool is legit, he's hitting 278 with all his experience coming before age 24. His OPS+ is 103. He's already a solid hitter, when he gets some experience under his belt he could be an excellent hitter. Not to mention he's fast and can field a bit if he continues to improve. I think personally he's been good since returning from injury in RF.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 09:31 PM) 5Ks...nice only 1BB If it's one thing this org can f***ing do, it's produce solid starters. I'd like to see them have a SURPLUS of guys again instead of a freaking shortage. The position player talent is awful, any lingering doubts as to how poorly KW left this franchise should be long gone.