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just stop with the "pitch selection" excuse for Lopez. He's a mediocre at best 5th starter who hasn't developed a lick since he came over. He's the same fucking guy he was in Washington plus a more furrowed brow. Maybe the light goes on next year but he's looking like a 5th/6th starter and bullpen guy long term.

Hi I'm Reynaldo Lopez and I have no secondary pitches.

Is there a game going on or to we have to wrap ourselves in 9/11 horse shit so Jason and Chuck can virtue signal all night? FFS. SPORTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A DISTRACTION FROM THIS SHIT.

Jason already annoying me.

Leury is basically a 1.5 WAR player. He'd be fine as a stop gap in RF next year. I'm not advocating for that either but it wouldn't be the end of the world.

I can see Puig coming here and putting up the same 1.5-2.5 WAR season he's put up for 5 of the last 7 years. Dude had one year where he was a star and it was 7 years ago. If we're signing 1.5-2.5 RF we're wasting money. Go big or go home. We can fill RF internally for free basically at those WAR values.

In another month CFB and NFL seasons will be in the thick of things, same with Euro Soccer and the NBA will be just about ready to tip off. Then, just as we're getting antsy for baseball pitchers and catchers will report and then just as we're anxious for real games march madness will entertain us and then it's the best time of all the start of April with the Masters and MLB again. So the sports calendar offers some comfort. The most boring time of the year is probably July for sports.

Kid has had a helluva year. Scary thing is he might only be scratching the surface. If he can boost his defense up another level (or avoid the early season errors he had this year really), add in another 10-15 steals and stay health he could be looking at a 6-8 WAR prime. It really won't take a lot of improvement. He'll regress some with BABIP but I expect his walk rate to increase next year as he gets avoided more often and his approach continues to mature.

We need to put Greg, Vile and Ron in the Octagon. One man will survive the other two will be exiled to WSI.

Shorter version of this thread: the leverage index on moves this offseason is through the fucking roof. This is the make or break offseason for the rebuild.

Moncada would be having a top 12 season in fWAR if he could have stayed healthier. Oh well, still a monster year for him. Up to 4.6 fWAR and he's tied with guys that have played a lot more games like Kris Bryant, Lindor and Peter Alonso.

Yikes. Just heard about that. Jason is going to get himself in trouble one day.

I've had the game on for 5 outs and I"m not sure Jason has talked about the game for more than 30 seconds. I get it it's the dog days of September but FFS.

I believe all of that is true, which is why Hahn should have a hard time looking at himself in the mirror. He's the GM and he's cucked.

Rick Hahn should be absolutely ashamed of himself. How does he even look himself in the mirror? @Look at Ray Ray Run and @Balta1701 I know we've talked about this with Hahn: he should be an analytics guy, right? Harvard law, U Mich before that. So he's either compromised his beliefs in order to draw a lifetime check from JR or he's not an analytics guy at all and just fronted as one for the fans.

A team with their resources should never even consider a full tear down imo but it appears that may be the way they are headed. The problem the Sox will have trying to trade their way into contention is that most of their MiLB stars are already pencilled in for 2019+. This isn't like the Red Sox trading Moncada when they already had Devers. Sox have very little if any prospect depth, outside maybe OF, and most of those guys are still a couple years away. So that's part of the issue missing on Burger, Rutherford (so far) and then the injuries to the pitching. I don't really see a good fit for a trade with Boston or anybody really. It's going to come down to FA, and well, good luck.

Right. It doesn't scale linearly. The $/WAR calculation is helpful but it's not that precise applied on a case by case basis. In addition to the examples you provided It appears that the last few offseasons teams have been valuing 1.5 WAR guys as basically replacement level. Especially if they aren't a SS/CF/C. Which is partially why giving Jose a guaranteed 2nd year is crazy. Nobody else is likely to even consider it.

They had a bad process but it gave an OK result with the Manny and Harper sweepstakes as neither guy looks like he's anywhere close to a superstar going forward. That said the same process has led to horrible failures from Hahn time and time again when luck was not on his side. They have to do better this offseason.

He'd be the Sox' 2nd best position player this year and would have allowed the Sox to ease in Madrigal next year as a super sub and keep guys fresh. Oh well, ship be sailed.

I honestly forgot Rodon existed until seeing this.

There's way too many confounders to attribute his hot Septembers to a lack of pressure. Mostly I think it's just hitting against scrubs from AL central also-rans most years. Again, I"m mostly arguing a "Devil's Advocate" position here. And to reiterate I hope he gets hotter than shit in a pennant race next year.

This is crazy. Moncada has 4.6 fWAR. TA has 3.1. The team as a whole has 8.1 from the position players, including some awful negative fWAR performances. I tell you what in years that your SS and 3B put up a combined 8+ WAR you'd sure as fuck hope you'd find 10 or so WAR elsewhere, not .8. Yikes. This is simultaneously horrifying and hopeful for the rebuild.

I don't even really believe it but I'm hoping to put it to the test next September when the Sox are in a pennant race and Jose is hotter than shit.

He always turns it on when the Sox are 20+ games out in September. Maybe we'll finally put that theory about how he only hits when it doesn't matter to the test next year.