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And lost it

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 9, 2014 -> 10:55 PM) Is Lindstrom getting good? One could certainly imagine that him having 3 days of spring training left him at a disadvantage the first couple weeks of teh season.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 9, 2014 -> 10:18 PM) It's two different legs though, right? That's never a good thing for a player whose game is based almost completely on speed and hustle. So that's 2 legs and an arm.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ May 9, 2014 -> 10:21 PM) I think one of Gillaspie or Davidson will have to go, eventually. Likely Gillaspie. Next year, with Dunn gone, Viciedo should DH, leaving Gillaspie and Davidson battling for 3B. The problem if Viciedo goes to DH is that we're absolutely desperate for a left handed hitter somewhere in the lineup. Eaton leads off and then we have 7 righties and De Aza somewhere in the middle.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 9, 2014 -> 09:51 PM) Eaton's not worth anything either if he can't stay on the field. What did we end up getting back for Carlos Quentin? The 2008 playoffs.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 9, 2014 -> 09:45 PM) He needs a day off for sure. IS HE BLEEDING? IS IT MORE THAN 2 PINTS? THEN NOOOOOOO!!!!

QUOTE (Tex @ May 9, 2014 -> 06:52 PM) Just discussing rehab in general, not specific . . . Shouldn't the general idea be like spring training, starting out slow but playing to MLB level by the end? If the guy is producing from day 1 he probably didn't need to the rehab starts. The extension of that is in an ideal world if the guy isn't playing to his prior level it seems like it should be an easy trip back to the DH or back to more rehab starts. You know the problem? The 0-4 I saw from him looked exactly like 2013 Jeff Keppinger. Couple weak flyouts, couple weak groundouts.

Choking VDN?

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 9, 2014 -> 04:25 PM) I disagree they got a playmaker they needed badly in Watkins. Yes Buffalo paid a heavy price to get him, nice to see Buffalo take a chance a go get a guy for once. Buffalo also got out from under Johnson's contract and save a lot of money and the pick is a good value to me. Mike Williams took his spot anyway. Bills are my AFC team I have no problem with either trade, not making the playoffs for a longtime makes you take chances. Jacksonville has had the worst draft. I feel like the Bills regularly take chances to go get big time guys at skill positions and it hasn't worked out well for them. Guys like Spiller are good players but they never have the kind of strength around them that it takes to even get close to .500. This feels the same to me.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 9, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) Like I have said for years, how many times this sort of a rebuild actually worked? The 1997 Marlins into the 2003 Marlins, led by Beckett (a top of the draft pick) does come to mind.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 9, 2014 -> 09:55 AM) Trust me, they were hoping by now someone else would want him. And they thought this would happen how? Rick has started buying PCP for other GM's?

QUOTE (Jake @ May 9, 2014 -> 12:05 AM) You can't put guys on rehab assignment indefinitely. There's a time limit The time limit is about a month. The one trick is you could take a guy off a rehab assignment, put him back on the DL, and then put him back on a rehab assignment if he's actually still being inhibited by an injury. If you try this with a guy saying he's healthy the PLayers's Association will have your a**, but if a guy seriously can't hit AA pitching after a month it's hard to believe something still isn't wrong.

So apparently even the official @nfl account tweeted #sadmanziel.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 7, 2014 -> 03:11 PM) Thanks for clarification. Allegedly the Vanity Fair story is much more comprehensive and she blasts Hillary as well. I'm sure she does and no, it's not worth our time.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2014 -> 03:03 PM) And if they go more than 5%, or say $400k over that number, they start giving up draft picks, which is NOT in their plans at all. Rodon is not worth the Cubs next 9 draft picks, and he's not worth their top draft picks next year. Hell, I'd be happy if the Cubs did that. That's insane.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ May 7, 2014 -> 03:00 PM) You are right but will the Sox roll the dice knowing there is a possibility we don't sign him? And I bet the Cubs would go over slot to get a deal done with him. Boras knows he wouldn't fall any further than the very next pick past us. They can't. Their entire draft budget is literally $8 million dollars. That's comparable to the #1 pick slot. They would literally have to cost themselves draft picks next year or sign all of their next 9 picks to $100k contracts. Or more likely both. The dropoff in each pick/slot is enormous, that's the thing that people need to keep remembering.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 7, 2014 -> 02:56 PM) USA Today got played for the fool then. That was one, long article in a (once) well-respected publication. Many people got played, but then some might notice that the coverage stopped. However, you continued to believe it.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 7, 2014 -> 02:58 PM) The way your sentence reads gramatically, you are calling me trash. I assure you I am not trash. I am a well respected member of society here and have yet to do anything that would be considered trashy to my city, my government, the people of Kansas or Illinois where I am from. You're right, that didn't come through correct, my apologies, that was not meant to come out the way it sounded. I do however stand by the statement that any article calling this her "coming out" is trash, and I feel the same about the thread.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ May 7, 2014 -> 02:54 PM) What he means is now Boras can advertise Rodon as far and away the best college pitcher available. He can let it be known he isn't cutting any deals, if Houston and Miami pass on Rodon and Boras sees we have a choice of Rodon or somebody like Beede or Nola, he will demand more in negotiations because Rodon is clearly a better prospect than what is available at the next pick. Once the pick is made none of that matters. It's either the money on the table or back to school. And just to say it again...if he wants top of the draft money, every pick he falls is another $1 million less he could get.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 7, 2014 -> 02:53 PM) If the Jewish people do have to register over there ... wow is all I can say. I wonder how long the world will exist before we destroy each other. You know that's how eventually the world is going to end. They. Didn't. Someone played you for a fool and you're letting them.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 7, 2014 -> 02:45 PM) I sense some anti Lewinsky comments on here. She was just a baby, so to speak and the PRESIDENT was having sex with her and sneaking around with her and making it an exciting liason for the young woman. Yet he remains so popular his wife will be a landslide winner in the next election and Lewinsky is considered trash. Oh that makes sense (not saying you guys on this thread are calling her trash, but many are). Sad. Personally, I'm calling anyone who thinks this is her somehow "speaking out" when she's been speaking out for decades now trash.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ May 7, 2014 -> 12:44 PM) Can we get some velo, Seth? We'd be trying to pick out the difference between a 90 average and a 92 average. I'm not sure you'd be able to do so on a minor league gun with accuracy.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2014 -> 10:05 AM) I said it when we signed him. With the way the Sox kicked his ass, and the speed they brought him in when he was available, they saw SOMETHING. Suddenly the White Sox have more pitchers in their org that I want to see getting big league innings than they have room for again.

QUOTE (ptatc @ May 7, 2014 -> 09:46 AM) Also, does the fact that Sale has not had a surgery while many pitcher have in the past few years, attest to him only having a tendency towards minor injuries or that the Sox are more conservative in the care of him. Personally, based on how he has been treated, between the unnecessary shift to the bullpen in 2011, the bouncing between the bullpen and rotation in 2012, and the ongoing pitch count issue that comes up here all the time, I think it's very questionable whether the Sox actually are conservative in how they treat him. You can make a case either way; they have shut him down a couple times at the first sign of an issue (good) but they push him very hard in several ways otherwise.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ May 7, 2014 -> 09:33 AM) I never claimed 90% is a scientific number that was derived from researches, it was plain arbitrary to get a point across. And there isn't a way to determine a scientific number or formula on his injury probability, just as there isn't a scientific way to determine a prospect's potential. Most prospects are evaluated based on forms, approach, size, athletic ability, intangibles, and relating back to past prospects to project their potential. Most of it is based on observation with the human eyes. Yet we seem to be very willing to accept the prospect assessments. Given what he delivery and frame suggests and the elbow/arm issues the past 3 years, if we choose to not believe that Chris Sale is more susceptible to injuries than most pitchers in baseball, then I think we are in denial here. And I think based on nearly 20 pitchers in MLB already going out for Tommy John surgery this year alone, if you choose to believe that somehow Chris Sale is a greater risk than any other pitcher, you need to make a much stronger case than "I think his mechanics look weird". Pitchers are going down left and right in this league. Based on the number of pitchers going down for that surgery already this year, an equally plausible answer seems to be "your baseball team should not employ pitchers".