Balta1701

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 12, 2013 -> 03:12 PM) Tex, I agree with this sentiment. When I was younger, I got my ass whooped when I did wrong. My parents actually cared for me and explained that my actions would have consequences. Some of these troubled youth do not have the luxury of caring parents. Most children, are simply a product of their environment. That's why when I stated earlier that criminal behavior is a product of multiple entities coming together. I know this will be a thread hijack, but all of the best research suggests this is a terrible thing and produces vastly more troubled youth.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 12, 2013 -> 02:53 PM) He's a great defensive player No he's not. That was part of the point of the post you replied to.

QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 12, 2013 -> 02:01 PM) That is an excellent point. While, Balta does bring up a nice counter, that people are held responsible, I think we would have broad agreement that the point where the individuals are held accountable today is too far down the path. Kids are allowed to slide on stuff, beginning at home, then in school, then in society, before we say enough is enough. Let's forgive this kid for hitting his brother because he's been sucking the lead paint off his crib. It's not his fault. Are you of the opinion that punishment for crime in the African American community is not harsh enough?

Bump. Now it's official.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Sep 12, 2013 -> 12:16 PM) At some point you're going to have to hold someone personally responsible for their actions, not blaming lead content. Yeah, because if there's one thing we fail to do with the African American community, it's "hold them accountable for their actions". I mean, if we did that, then large fractions of them would be in jail and they'd be much more likely to be arrested for crimes like drug possession than whites even if they use at the same rates. Oh wait, they are.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 12, 2013 -> 12:46 PM) So the ticket +/- is neutral at best depending on where you put it. The obvious choice then is to put it on the weekend. You'll get the sellout, be the event of the city for the weekend, and create hype for your brand. This series as we speak is dead right now though. Technically it'd be neutral if you don't sell out. If the park sells out that means demand outstripped supply.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Sep 11, 2013 -> 08:58 PM) The odds of Oden's knees staying intact and Beasley putting down the bong long enough to make any kind of impact are extremely slim. Hell, Miami's opponents might be better off if Beasley DOES play major minutes, that guy is terrible. Maybe he can get Lebron hooked on something...

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 11, 2013 -> 03:39 PM) FWIW Kyle, I agree with you, and, no matter how many steroids he smoked, I will always remember watching Bonds from 01-04 and thinking "I am never going to see anybody play this well again, even if he is on steroids" QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2013 -> 08:46 PM) Especially when you look at the drop off in numbers since testing began. Another good point is that if MLB hadn't cracked down and te chemists kept getting better, you probably would have seen someone play better. If only a few dozen or a few hundred people were on the heaviest stuff, how good of a reaction could we have found if everyone was using? And if scientists figured out things like how to tailor regimens to certain bodies, which requires study to do right?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2013 -> 03:56 PM) IIRC, there are WAY more whites in poverty than blacks in terms of total numbers. However, the fraction of African American children who have elevated lead concentrations in their blood is much, much higher than for white Americans. The average lead measurement for whites in poverty is comparable to the lead concentrations for Africans above the poverty line, and as a number of people are now harping on...lead exposure in children is an incredibly effective predictor for violent crime in adult years. If we replace "poverty" with "lead poisoning", African Americans hit that statistic 10x as much as whites.

QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 11, 2013 -> 02:04 PM) The angle I used in discussing this with them is just like the Kennedy assassination changed the world I was raised in, an event I had no first hand experience with, 9/11 has shaped the world they are growing up in, and they have no first hand memories. We spent some time discussing pre and post 9/11 worlds. It is easy to mark events like Pearl Harbor, JFK, and 9/11 and the whole everyone remembers where they were. But I couldn't come up with a similar list of "happy events". The moon landing and ?? 2005 World Series final out.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2013 -> 02:56 PM) But statistically WAY more likely to not say within their community. Which I'd guess probably is accounted for by the higher crime rate in that community generally.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2013 -> 01:58 PM) That changes the scope, a lot. Even though whites are about 78% of the population, they only commit 10% (according to your stats) against blacks. Blacks commit 13% of crimes against whites, while only 13% of the population. Was never trying to argue that they commit crimes in general at the same rate, clearly that isn't the case and you don't need to break down the data to that point to show it. African American communities have higher rates of poverty, lead exposure, and consquently do commit crimes at a higher rate. However, most of those crimes stay within their communities.

QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 11, 2013 -> 02:13 PM) I am trying to follow you because I think you are making a good point, but I think the flaw is while you are adjusting for the number of criminals, don't you have to also adjust for the number of victims? Let's toss some numbers at it and see what it says. Suggesting there are 100 people in the US, of the 78 white people, 7.8 will commit crimes against 13 black people. Of the 13 blacks, 1.5 will commit crimes against 78 white people. And this stat really doesn't tell us who commits more crimes, just which is group is more willing to cross racial lines to commit those crimes. Which is of course what Duke keeps saying, that there's suddenly a new Martin-killing inspired epidemic of across-racial-line violence, and that's why he needs his guns, because of the blacks. Which is of course bull.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2013 -> 01:47 PM) Essentially are the adjusted for population differences or not. No, gross numbers.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2013 -> 01:33 PM) out of curiousity are those rates or are those gross numbers? You lost me with the question, I gave percentages?

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 11, 2013 -> 12:12 PM) What's the stat for White on Black? Just about as rare. Over 90% of crimes against African Americans are committed by African Americans. Basically all that's reflecting is how rare crimes against people you're unfamiliar with actually are.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 11, 2013 -> 08:36 AM) ew I concur.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 11:58 PM) He definitely needs to throw it more, as too many of his pitches are hard. I think we should just be content that he's getting the big league experience this month so he has some idea that he needs to really be on top of things this offseason.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 09:43 PM) Its an epidemic, it was bad before Zimmerman walked and now its getting worse. If that's an epidemic, white on white crime is a horrible nationwide pandemic. Based on DOJ statistics only about 13% of crimes against whites are done by black people, the overwhelming majority are by other whites. (Link) You should be terrified if you see a white person near you. Did you know they even rig the laws to let crazy people carry guns?

Didn't Albert Belle hit 50 HR for the white sox that year?

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 04:08 PM) Ya, no chance I'm trading Deng before the season. This years team can win the championship. I want to ask in reply if we're 100% sure Derrick Rose won't sit the season out again. Mostly I'm just writing this post because I'm still pissed off.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 03:17 PM) No, those guys still were awesome. You still have to be able to hit it out. The more I think about steroids in the game, the less they bother me. There was tons of juicing going on back then, including the pitchers they were facing. I think the playing field was a hell of a lot more level than people think it was. It wasn't just those three. And if all Balentien is doing is hitting the same juiced ball everyone else is, I'm still impressed. He is hitting titanic shots, not cheapies And I don't know why I should be impressed that their bodies reacted better to the extreme chemical components put through it than other people's did.

Suh fined $100k.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 01:58 PM) Well start one then, dammit! Seriously though, if not that, then post the link to it here. Is it embedded in one of the FS articles? No, not even on my computer yet. If I'm not writing something rapidly then uploading takes a few days to get to the top of my list.

Extension talks with Deng stall, put on hold for the time being.