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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 02:26 PM) Its not, and it isn't going to be. That's why comparing the two is a terrible show. So...when I went after the claim that: QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 02:09 PM) MLB doesn't really dent the cash flow like the NFL, NBA.on the NBA part, I was right, MLB nearly doubles the NBA (maybe more now that the NBA is legitimately struggling), the revenue makes up the bulk of the cash flow in both cases, and yet I'm still wrong about something?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 02:23 PM) Accounting 101 cash flows/= revenue. In what sense is the cash flow for the NBA greater than for MLB?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 02:18 PM) Revenues are a terrible comparison of viability when comparing leagues. Tell that to the person who brought them up.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 02:09 PM) I didn't understand that either. MLB doesn't really dent the cash flow like the NFL, NBA. Plus attendance is down almost everywhere. Huh? The NFL is a cash cow, granted, but MLB is a solid 2nd place in total revenues. It blows the NBA out of the water. The NBA doesn't publicly admit its revenues, but a simple estimate suggests it's somewhere near $3 billion, while MLB topped $7 billion last year. And although attendance is down, advertising and cable revenues, especially local franchise revenues, are soaring.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 02:01 PM) Well all except for the 10 or so teams that don't give out real contracts. Really? 10 teams don't give out contracts? I'll go tell Evan Longoria that he's not actually under contract. I'm sure he'll be thrilled to learn that.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:54 PM) Like I said, there are plenty of teams in MLB that are a financial mess. And the only one that you can legitimately argue is because of guaranteed contracts, or Hell, even that they're in trouble because of anything baseball-related is Texas.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:47 PM) BTW, can Dunn be exempt from the new hyperbole rule until he resembles, at the very least, a AAA ball player? If you're asking this then you don't get the point. Even if you're asking this sarcastically.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:30 PM) The Mets financial situation isn't fine. Did I say that? I think I pretty much said the exact opposite. Allow me to repeat. Their financial situation would be fine if they hadn't taken a whole lot of team money and invested it with a guy who was producing 10% growth on their investment every year. The Mets financial system is a disaster...because they invested team funds with a Ponzi scheme.

In a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court has declared Arizona's public campaign finance system illegal for the fact that it funds public-candidates more heavily if they go up against a privately-funded candidate who tries to win by outspending them. Effectively, this makes public campaign finance systems border on being illegal, which I'm sure is the next step.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:24 PM) Not this year. On that one, we can agree. If he'd done all sorts of swing work in the offseason and come out in this slump, everyone would be angry that he changed up his routine from what worked and that he'd tired himself out.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:20 PM) And we still haven't counted the Mets yet, nor some of the small revenue teams. And lumping in the Mets with "Teams having financial difficulties due to guaranteed contracts" is kinda silly. The Mets would have had no problem making payroll, they just built a fancy new ballpark, but they took the payrolls for a bunch of guys and invested them with this dude who gave them 10% returns every year. That way, they were making a fortune for themselves every time they could get a contract with some deferred money. And Pittsburgh is over .500 this year.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:17 PM) I get your point but doing absolutely nothing in the offseason while playing for a new league may have hindered Dunn's effectiveness this season. Instead of bragging about not picking up a bat since last season ended I would have loved to have heard him tell us how he worked extra hard this past offseason, studied film of the AL Central pitching staffs, and instituted a workout routine for the 1st time in his life. Link He never said he didn't work out in the offseason.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:16 PM) MLB has just had 10% of the league go through bankruptcy. I don't know how that is fine. And one of those bankrupt teams wound up with a World Series appearance and a huge revenue infusion last year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:15 PM) Who would have thought the Dodgers would be broke 30 months ago? This is as impressive of a hatchet job as I have seen in a long time. I get the impression that there were people watching that team's front office closely, even during the Mannywood era, who felt like things were wrong. The immediate talk of how much the Dodgers saved when he got suspended fits with that. The hatchet job on the franchise was already well underway, and the local L.A. media market always had this skepticism towards the McCourts, which turns out to have been justified.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:13 PM) Apparently Kahn tried hiring away Coach K. You know the same guy that wouldn't take a massive contract and Kobe Bryant in his prime? Never know unless you try, right?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:12 PM) Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. If the McCourts hadn't gotten divorced...then the Dodgers would still have wound up in bankruptcy, it would have just taken 5-10 years longer.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:10 PM) Unfortunately real changes need to be made to MLB. Who would have thought 30 years ago someone would say the Dodgers would be bankrupt? They need to find an alternative to guaranteed contracts. MLB's financial situation is fine, really better than any other major sport, and the Dodgers problems have absolutely nothing to do with the existence of guaranteed contracts. If the Dodgers payroll was half of what it was, they'd still be in bankruptcy, the McCourts would just own more houses.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:06 PM) See what I mean? Well, I wouldn't have burnt it if that counts for anything.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 12:56 PM) I thought it was interesting when Pierre suggested that he didn't think the team was being vocal enough in its support of Dunn. If that dude is feeling on on island I assure you it was of his own making. Bragging about not picking up a bat all off-season? Probably not a strong move. That's why the whole team hated Mark Buehrle from 2001-2007 or so as well. No one could stand that guy. I've never seen a guy hated so much by his clubhouse. If only he didn't tell them how his offseason routine was to shut down completely, maybe things would have been different.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 11:33 AM) As opposed to another guy who has to be benched for long stretches in important junctions of the game? No thanks. No more Boozers. Unless the Bulls find some team willing to dump a full time starting level SG for contract reasons (don't ask me to attach a name), whoever they get to add on at that position is probably going to be benched for long stretches at important junctions of some games.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 11:09 AM) Politics brings out a special kind of anger in some people. Trust me there are people in here I would imagine having the same sort of reaction to George W Bush. Would people pay for a Bush autograph?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 10:45 AM) Like I said. I think Ozzie is doing a great job of trying to play the match ups with both of the Brent's. I'd like to see Lilli 3-4 times a week, but I think Morel has been about right. Morel has been benched way too often.

QUOTE (FlySox87 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 09:40 AM) I don't see why a guy with that sort of production should be anything more than a placeholder. Sweeney really brings nothing to the table. He might be an acceptable placeholder for now, but I'd say Billy Beane is off his rocker if, at least in the back of his mind, he wasn't thinking about a replacement (perhaps a bad example, given Beane's famous Moneyball philosophy). Of course you're always thinking about a replacement, but you're not going to overpay for it. There is nothing wrong with adequate production from an OF spot as long as you make up for it somewhere else. Beane's biggest offensive problem to me is 1b, with a 2nd spot at DH. He needs more power out of his 1b position. Edit: Give you some more details here. Right now, in the American League, the average OPS for a LF is .675. It's .715 in baseball overall. Nearly half the teams in MLB have sub .700 OPS's out of their LF spot. In RF, the situation is a little better, .774 OPS overall, but still 9 teams have sub .700 OPS's from their RF spot. This is post-steroids-era baseball...you can't be used to .850 OPS's out of every position any more. Also, worth noting, the .581 OPS the White Sox have from their LF spot is the worst in baseball. Oakland has gotten a .656 OPS from it's RF spot...the .713 OPS that Sweeney has put up would be a significant improvement if he was only playing RF.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 09:25 AM) Depends on how it was done. There's a pretty good description of how they sliced and diced the Dodgers into 5 different corporations, gave themselves a salary at each, and took out a loan to investors with each of those corporations as collateral over in the other finance thread.