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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 2, 2011 -> 12:17 PM) Before the official announcement las tonight I put this on facebook: "It only took 9.5 years..." To that a friend replied: "only took obama 2" (referencing Bush's inability to get Bin Laden) Another friend replied: "The president has VERY little to do with the actual success of any tactical operation gents." I'm thinking he might want to retract that now knowing that Obama gave the direct orders to go. Bah, aside from the fact that Obama's debate opponent said he wouldn't go into Pakistan to get him, I don't think your 2nd commenter is wrong. The President didn't gather the intelligence, do the training, etc., he was presented with a decision which was risky but which was obvious. There might be credit that can be given, in the sense of reorganizing the intelligence operation and giving them explicit directives to go get UBL which might not have existed before this team came into office, but that's a lot of mights.

For you guys.

Kings will remain in Sacto next year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 2, 2011 -> 09:53 AM) How the heck did we not know he was there? That is crazy. But there is doubt that parts of the Pak military were aiding, there is no way around it. Well, the first note is that this compound wasn't built until 2005, so he can't have been there until that point.

Here's the original link if you wanted it.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 2, 2011 -> 09:31 AM) Oh that's right. I remember when we finally defeated those guys that attacked us on our soil. Our country was so relieved to finally have defeated them. We defeated Al Qaeda yesterday?

A pretty far cry from the cave. With the kinds of items that there are in the area, it's pretty easy to believe that the Pakistani army was directly aiding him.

Pictures of the compound itself, courtesy of ABC

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 1, 2011 -> 11:23 PM) s***. Why even bother with a 2012 Presidential election after this news. The election is over. Like the 1992 election was over in 1991 when George 1 finished a crushing military victory over Iraq.

This guy was live-tweeting the actual raid without knowing who the target was.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ May 2, 2011 -> 03:22 AM) That was EXACTLY my first thought. LOL, I didn't think that until I read your post.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 2, 2011 -> 08:38 AM) I'm waiting for the middle eastern conspiracies to emerge... "Buried at sea", lol, that one is too easy. Just like there were no Jews in the Towers. Anyways, glad we finally got our man, but at the sametime it does feel weird to see celebrations for someone's death. The big hope is that this breaks down some of the organizations wills to keep fighting. Plus there is still pleny of AQ senior leadership out there, which means someone could still step in and keep it together. My other thought is how long until the revenge attack happens? OBL hasnt been able to hit the US for a long time now, I wonder if this is what makes the transition from large and spectacular attacks, to some Palestinian style attacks on anything and everything start to happen? Wow, so many thoughts. My "I don't root for people on opposing sports teams to get hurt" rule has a few exceptions that I'm content with. Tetrahydrogestrinone, the Miami Heat, etc. My "Killing people doesn't make the world safer" has one or two exceptions as well. That would be one of them. Anywho...There's only "Senior Leadership" left in the sense of Zawahiri. The #3 guy in Al Qaeda has been killed more times than any of us can count. And on the "revenge attack" thing...the only way that really makes sense is if AQ totally changes its style now that he's dead. They've still been looking for the big time attack, bringing down a plane or what not.

Holy Hell. Yay!

QUOTE (Tex @ May 1, 2011 -> 08:46 PM) That's a very good point, but you can't ignore one problem because you have another. The team needs work on more than one problem at a time. Yeah.

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QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 1, 2011 -> 07:53 PM) Great, so our plan is to play the law of averages and hope the universe balances everything out? Cool, can't wait. Isn't that pretty much "Baseball"? in a nutshell?

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QUOTE (lostfan @ May 1, 2011 -> 07:41 PM) Bogans isn't as reliable as Korver (Korver is pretty much automatic when he's left wide open) but I noticed the Pacers would just forget about him a lot and his defender would have about 8 feet to recover. Most of the season, Bogans just wouldn't hit that shot so it wouldn't matter if he was wide open. Last game he made it.

Carlos Pena has an OPS just about as good as Alex Rios and a little bit better than Carl Crawford. Can he actually hit a ball out of a ballpark any more? He crushed a ball and it only went to the warning track.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 1, 2011 -> 06:42 PM) That's the best part of all the comparisons to the great run they had last year--they still failed in the end because of the massive hole they put themselves in. Well, there's 2 ways to look at it though. They had a massive hole at the beginning but they dug themselves completely out of that hole and built a 3 game lead. If we're using "digging a hole" as the metaphor...we got completely out of the hole and then started climbing on top of the pile, but then turned around and headed back into the hole afterwards.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2011 -> 06:31 PM) And in regards to your statement about giving 110%, that's impossible. No one can give more than 100%. By definition, that's the most anyone can give. May I hug you?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 1, 2011 -> 06:28 PM) Filled seats apparently isn't motivation either as the Twins are tied with us for last. Twins have, I believe, had the fewest home games in MLB.

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 1, 2011 -> 06:25 PM) My point was: these things seem more common (the people I'm talking about lump all these events together) because of changes in weather patterns that have been predicted for a while now, not because God got all pissed off and decided to act like an angry abusive spouse. I hope you're seeing that in response, I'm trying to stay as close to what I can actually argue for as possible, and not go a step beyond what we have solid evidence for. Any time someone goes farther than what we legitimately have evidence for, then "this person is exaggerating the climate change thing" winds up being testimony before Congress.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ May 1, 2011 -> 06:22 PM) Getting back to the point of this thread, than do your part to energize the team and get out to support them. Empty seats are not motivation to turn it around and if you really think that now is "do or die" time, do your part to help jump start them. It's a 9 hour drive for me. I've got July 4th tickets, I'd be there on Memorial day if they weren't on a 10 day road trip then also. I might go see the Bulls one of these games.