Balta1701

I wonder what the expected batting average was on that.

Hernandez was the Phillies #29 prospect in MLB.com's last list. 20 years old, decent numbers in short work at low-A this year. Google is actually not even finding the other guy?

Adolfo continues to be a solid match for Arizona.

@ptatc

I’m not going to check the rest but Codi Heuer’s ERA this season is 5.12.

First of all, any team making the playoffs is a threat. Secondly, this is a legitimately strong team. The starting rotation in particular is capable of winning a series with only a little help. Third - the White Sox are only going to get so many chances. Rodon is gone after this year and they’re not going to have Kopech stretched out for next season at all. Lynn and Giolito are gone after 23, and who knows if there will be a 2022 season. Fourth, you assume no one else will have any problems? Correa will stay healthy this time? There will be no upsets by a wild card team? Betts will single handedly bring the Dodgers back from 3-1 again? There are some things you can’t insure against. Lynn has historically been bad against the Astros, but you can’t replace him just in case. But 2b needs help and right now the White Sox middle relief is a wasteland - the only guy on the roster who might give you a quality 8th inning is Kopech, and he might pitch only 1 time in a 5 game series with how they are using him right now. There are small moves right now that can and should be done to help this season. If they don’t do anything bigger - fine. But at least give it a shot.

If the White Sox don't make moves, and they're knocked out of the playoffs by the Astros in round 1 with Heuer on the mound getting shelled or after an error by Leury, you darn well better blame Rick Hahn. Unless LaRussa is actually making GM decisions, then you blame whoever made that call.

I don't believe it was a significant dropoff, but Rodon did have his lowest average fastball velocity of the year on Saturday and never got up to 99. Outings from 2019/20 provided for context - seems technically true, but right at the margins.

Danks and Floyd were never in that, that’s why I remember the White Sox offer being weak too. But yeah, Google says Gio was the other piece and he was a decent player. Nobody wanted Floyd at the time, that was the offseason someone here said they could hit Floyd.

Wasn’t the White Sox’s package effectively garbage too? I remember Josh Fields was one of the main parts, who was the other?

I’m not sure if there’s anyone here who was as genuinely frustrated with the moves this franchise made in 2015 and 2016 as me, and amazingly almost every trade turned out worse in hindsight than it looked at the time. So I’m used to saying the White Sox should hold onto guys. There is a big difference between giving up players on a team with zero depth in order to move from 73 wins to 76 wins in a season and giving up blocked players to fill holes on a team that is going to be in the playoffs. If the White Sox hold onto these guys, make the playoffs 3 years in a row, and never make it past the ALCS, it is worse than trading away a guy for a reliever and having the player become an all star - but the team makes it to a World Series.

Yankees bullpen completely imploded yesterday against Boston so maybe a bit of a reaction to that?

Considering that they're supposed to have been "Very active over the last month", you'd think the people they'd have been calling would at least be leaking things right?

Torotno is 4 out of the second wildcard and above .500, with a better run differential than any of the wild card teams except TB. Anything is possible, but I’d hate it if the White Sox sold a guy in that situation.

Yeah, I can offer no intelligent reason why there wasn’t a double switch in the middle of the 7th when the pitchers spot would be up 3rd in the 8th. That is supposed to be pretty standard for an NL manager.

LaRussa was trying to see if he could get Kopech through a second clean inning before going to Hendricks, but Kopech’s use has been so limited that he’s not stretched out for anything more than a short, one inning burst. He immediately walked Adames to bring the tying run to the plate in the form of Narvaez, so there was genuine risk of that move costing him the lead.

Do you blame Moncada for yours???

The umpire is responsible for not giving the player an incorrect call. I know it’s hard but most can do it. Once the guy listened to the ump, he took an action which could not be reversed. Having him be out based in part on an umps mistake is BS.

Kopech has pitched 7 innings in July. He last threw on Tuesday, so he is now on 5 days rest and once again has to be used soon just to get work in. On Tuesday, he pitched 2 innings for the first time since May, threw 40 pitches. He walked 2 and gave up an early home run. Towards the end, he did appear to be laboring while trying to throw strikes, although I do believe he struck out his last hitter. They could have used him in the game Friday rather than Heuer, with good rest, and did not do so. In other words, he is not stretched out at all and so far there is no sign they are trying to do so.

It seems they have to, but this will create other problems. Guys are taught to get out of the way to avoid interfering with an ongoing play. If everyone comes back to tag home plate after sliding or running past it, it will not take long before someone is trying to do that and another runner or a defensive is coming in and trying to get to that same space.

The way it seems to me is that there were two steps to the review. 1. did he tag the plate the first time. No he did not. 2. did he come back and tag the plate after missing it? No he didn’t, but the umpire told him not to by signaling safe. So how can you assume what Moncada’s behavior would have been had the ump not signaled safe? You can’t. The default ruling for an ump at the plate should apparently be that you don’t signal safe unless you are 100% certain, because if you signal safe and he missed the plate, you will almost always trigger this response because the player is trained to get out of the way when safe is called so that they don’t interfere with an ongoing play.

Yeah, that is apparently the exactly correct term. A team getting 90 seconds for their booth to look at a play before sending in a challenge to New York is definitely against the spirit of the pace of play rule. And a 90 second pause, followed by 10 minutes of discussion, followed by Moncada is out and Collins is up for reasons that weren’t explained at all…could not have been very pleasant for fans in the ballpark. The only people who had any idea what was going on in the whole park had to have tv or radio feed going.

“The White Sox got To the ALCS and it was a tough fight they lost in game 7. This team, more experienced, will not be going away any time soon.” One year later…