Greg Hibbard

Who is this team

About what would Eloy have made in 2018 dollars his first six years assuming .850 ops each season / solid numbers?

Does the Designated Hitter also sicken you, mr. traditionalist?

I don't disagree with your points. However, I truly wonder if the organizational belief is that Fulmer for example can be rebranded as a reliever (I disagree, I think he's done), he might be a candidate for this role, too. The silver lining about missing out on Machado and Harper is that we have 2019 to try some truly wacky things to see where people might thrive, rather than fit them into some pre-ordained mold. If we could find something that works as a 4th-5th starter type of role as a hybrid, it's less pieces we have to get later.

I heard on the Score this morning someone discussing that Tampa (and possibly Oakland) are allegedly again going to attempt some version of the "opener" - IE a pitcher who pitches the first couple of innings or so but doesn't have a traditional starter's role. Usually it's more of a relief type of role. So based on how young this staff is, and based on certain data points from last year (such as Dylan Covey's success the first time through the order in many of his starts), outside of Rodon, is this something the White Sox should also experiment with and maybe be effective with, particularly with the back end of their rotation?

I'm going to contacting Sox Marketing and tell them that I would have bought season tickets had they landed Machado, but with the debacle as presented, and with KW's awful spin on this, I am not planning to attend a single game because I'm so angry with the level of contempt with which KW is treating the fans.

In the Reinsdorf era of ownership (Sox have 5 playoff appearances and 1 World Series) 18 teams (WS wins, playoff appearances since 1981) Dodgers (2,17) Cardinals (3,16) Orioles (1,6) Tigers (1,7) Royals (2,5) Mets (1,7) Twins (2,9) A’s (1,15) Blue Jays (2,6) Braves (1,18) Yankees (5,21) Diamondbacks (1,6) Angels (1,9) Red Sox (4,16) Phillies (1,7) Giants (3,10) Cubs (1,7) Astros (1,10) teams that haven’t had as many of both: Reds, Rays, Rockies, Indians (a million division titles and heartbreaking WS losses), Padres, Mariners, Marlins, (who won 2 but only have two playoff appearances), Expos/Nationals, Rangers, Pirates, Brewers it really underscores that the problem is ownership.

The thing that greatly angers me is really not about not getting Machado. The things that makes me extraordinarily angry: 1) that we went out and got Yonder Alonso and John Jay as window dressing, and then offered an amount of money that was a completely bad faith, shit offer based on where everyone knew the money should be, including Machado, his agent, my cat, and any intern working in baseball. 2) that early along people scoffed at the White Sox being serious suitors, given their track record with FA, and then people grudgingly included them in reports when it became clear they were the only real offer for weeks. Then, after San Diego just went out and got it fucking done in a normal way, our organization looks like the punk ass b**** bridesmaids who got stood up at the altar, and we can now not too quietly return to being league laughingstock cheapskates. 3) that just once our stupid fucking front office can’t just have gone out and done something extraordinarily above and beyond to get a premier player in an era that demands it given where their organization is 4) that just for once our stupid fucking front office can’t fucking own their total lack of vision on this. If they had simply not pursued Machado, we would have been fine. Instead, we look like complete fools, have nothing to show for it, and the optics are terrible for luring future FA. There is no silver lining in how this was handled. How it was handled was categorically terrible.

I think the thing that hurts the most is that we can't just make this go away now, because we have to look at Yonder Alonso and John Fucking Jay for the next entire season. I doubt I will go to a single game. I'm not revoking my fandom, but I would have rather they just DIDN'T EVEN PURSUE HIM. Play to win or go home, you stupid clowns

1997: "Anyone who thinks this team can catch Cleveland is CRAZY!" 2019: "Anyone who thinks this team can match San Diego's financial power is CRAZY!"

can we rename the thread #HectorSuicideWatch

I'd like to go to a game this year, but I just can't get to the $10 level

Every day I ask for this to please be over tomorrow

42 days until the White Sox play opening day.

It's just amazing to me that amid all this other nonsense literally nothing official is happening for days, weeks, etc. This all just feels very, very bizarre.

I’m also from Oak Park. Was really heavily split in my era of growing up (80s and 90s)

Considering his young age and how much baseball he missed waiting to get here, I truly don’t understand why people don’t project him to improve.

I dunno, with Eloy’s arrival and Moncada’s continued development I expect to see a more consistent offense this season, and with a very good bullpen we will have a shot at a lot of close games. I think it’s at least 3-7 games over that total.

THAT low? Come on - even $175 million would be tied for the 22nd largest contract in sports history. Anything north of $217 million is top ten. I don’t think your auction league analogy is a particularly good one, because no matter what is going on, this is going to be one of the two biggest sports contracts of 2019 and one of the biggest ever. I don’t buy it. The Padres are not just going to suddenly wake up with $175 million to throw at a player because it’s “that low”

28 days until Spring Training. 64 more days until opening day. No matter what, this has to be over soon.

I can't believe we have to endure yet another week of this hell

Guys, I’m not stating that Avi and Jay are the same type of player, and I’m not sayin we brought in Jay to replace Avi. I’m asking which one of these two very different players will be the better value at a similar price. Because they have similar salaries and potentially similar fWARs.

It’s interesting that Jay and Garcia ended up with similar deals money-wise. Who do you think will be the better of the two in terms of the bang for the buck?

You mention those 210 strikeouts in a vacuum. Do you disagree that Moncada got rung up on called third strikes that were actually balls at an unprecedented rate? Because that's what the stats say. Do me a favor, as a mental exercise, just please turn 10 of those strikeouts into walks and get back to me and see where his numbers might have been if the umps were where they would have been with literally any other player. Also, let's please contextualize Moncada's age. He missed nearly 18 months of baseball at a critical time waiting to get over here. That doesn't happen to most 23 year olds. Do you utterly discount that? In baseball years, he's more like 21 1/2. Can you imagine where he might be at 25-26-27-28?

Hate them together. Broadcast is unlistenable.