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QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 05:29 AM) I appreciate the Sox Talk header but I think this one is jinxed. We need to put our collective heads together and decide what we need to do in order to get Becks and Rios going again. Perhaps a header with the both of them in the fold? EDIT: I am talking about the header graphic for the website with Adam Dunn. I have a few web designers who can put together a few options if anyone thinks this can turn the season around for us ala Rally Crede. Because it's working so well with Adam Dunn?

Seeing this topic made me think the Tigers, Royals, and Indians all got into a place crash.

QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 04:07 PM) I don't see any bad news there. Walker admitted there might be a problem. Our worst guy out of the pen goes down. and a .158 hitter might have to sit for a little bit. LOL exactly.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 05:58 PM) lol same here,2 yrs ago. it was when the angels had batting practice. i had the second row , right next to the bullpen. im walking to my seat and i hear something fall right next to me in the 3rd row. i look and it was a ball someone shagging balls for the angels threw. i know it wasnt used in a game but i think its really cool because the angels had just finished playing the twins in minnesota. i guess they brought the balls they used over there because it had a commerative logo of the metrodome(with the yrs of when it first opened and the final year) since it was the last yr. i hated the dome like everyone here does so its a nice reminder that they lost such a great home field advantage That sounds like it might be a cool gesture by the Angels. Or maybe it's just a normal thing.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 05:36 PM) One of my roommates got an OWI last night, and managed to tweet about it before going to jail. What's that?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 11:24 AM) This. I was hoping I wasn't the only one. And I've been to a ton of games in my life. QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 11:34 AM) Jose Valentin hit a ball literally into my seat once when I went a concession stand. My friend just leaned over and picked it up. Foul or homer?

QUOTE (Tuna @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 12:02 PM) I'll do that, thanks. No problem. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) Yeah and if you get shotdown, so what. Its not like it hurts your life or something. And if it does, you have bigger problems than Soxtalk

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 12:03 PM) Gervais's character and Michael Scott are pretty different bosses. Michael actually had an endearing quality to him. The differences between the characters has little to do with it. The Michael Scott character is just more and more cartoonish with every passing episode. I've actually stopped watching some episodes because of him. At a certain point, it stops being funny and just becomes stupid and annoying.

QUOTE (SnB @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 12:00 PM) this. The first season was all about Leslie Knope and even she didn't hit her stride until the 2nd season. Ron and Tom make that show what it is - pure one line gold. I've never watched that show, but it did not surprise me at all to see that Tom is the character played by Aziz Ansari.

QUOTE (Tuna @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 11:58 AM) I lurk...been lurking for the better part of 5 years. The reason is because I'm not as well versed as most of the regular posters as far as stats go. It can be a little intimidating sometimes, I know what I see and sometimes think about throwing my opinion out there but I don't want to be shot down by some stat I don't understand. I thoroughly enjoy everyone's comments and the sense of humor from a lot of the posters are just down right hilarious. With all that being said, my guess is the first day of the winter meetings. Also, for the sake of argument, my reasoning above is due to my own insecurities, I'm not accusing anyone of anything. We all get shot down from time to time. Even me, and basically the entire board is in agreement that I'm the best poster here. Might as well state your piece once in a while. You actually get to know some of the posters as if you interacted with them regularly in real life.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 11:41 AM) I dont know if he's been an annoyance, Michael Scott is pretty integral to the show and he's been hilarious throughout the years. I was watching a few episodes yesterday from the first few seasons and its almost hard to remember what it was like without Andy Bernard. They've really added some good characters to the cast over the last few years to take the focus off of Michael a bit moving forward. I think Darrell should be the first crack at manager to be honest. He's really come into his own as an actor on that series since the beginning. I never watch The Office when it's new, but I see it in syndication all of the time. Michael Scott gets less funny and more annoying in every single episode. I honestly see why Ricky Gervais stopped making his series after two seasons (and all of his shows) because sometimes it just gets stupid. Steve Carell as Michael Scott is the very definition of jumping the shark. Usually you say that about a specific episode or even a show, but that very character so perfectly embodies the idea that I honestly have grown to dislike Steve Carell when I originally liked the guy.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 11:03 AM) Or so the government would have you believe... No but seriously I saw that one too. It was very compelling, and interesting when they did the tests on the model ship. The best demonstration I've seen of the effect was actually on Jay Leno like 10 years ago. Some guy had an aquarium filled with water and a small nozzle at the bottom that released the gas. I know it showed the planes bursting into flames. I can't recall if the boats did the same, or if they just lost buoyancy and sank immediately.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 10:27 AM) I can see Cowley's next article... Maybe I like kids... No no, it has to be separate sentences. So, something like: "Maybe the Sox will turn it around. In my opinion..."

QUOTE (oldsox @ Apr 28, 2011 -> 10:59 PM) Pena is so bad that if we had kept Brandon Allen and made him a pitcher, he would be better than Pena. This was very funny. QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 01:23 AM) But that wasn't the intention going into the year. The emergence of Sergio Santos relegated Pena to that duty. What I honestly don't understand is why they didn't convert him to a starter. I get that he's been absolutely terrible thus far and his overall numbers as a starter were worse than as a reliever, but it seemed to me that he performed relatively well in those spot starts he made - I seem to recall one against KC last year where he had 6 perfect innings and hung up a 5 spot or something in the other. Either way, he really doesn't deserve another chance. You DFA him and hope that someone bites. This really needs to happen. Not only does he wholly deserve to be designated for assignment, but he's also the type of guy that plagues the Sox (lots of talent with minimal results). He's perfect to cut loose not only to improve your team by simply subtracting him, but it also sends a message.

I was a believer in Jackson. I truly thought he was going to do very well for us. Back in 2006, I was also a fan of Javier Vazquez. It turns out that Javier Vazquez is just Spanish for Edwin Jackson.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 08:27 AM) Whoever was 1B for Seattle tossed a PK groundout that ended the inning to my lil bro in '05. Nice to have a momento from what turned out to be a solid year. I never understood why people act like frenzied animals whenever a baseball falls anywhere near them. It's kind of amusing and sad at the same time. If I can make a play on it without diving, pushing, elbowing, crawling, then cool- and I'll probably just flip it to some kid nearby anyway. Richie Sexson?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 28, 2011 -> 03:03 PM) Had to throw in the extra FYI! 2009. NOVA had a good special on possible causes of the crash. Thank you. I know this isn't the thread for it, but I like the theory of methane gas being released from undersea faults and causing fires/explosions on ships and planes to explain the disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle. I remember seeing a special on it and one scientist proposed that theory. It seemed the most believable.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Apr 28, 2011 -> 03:19 PM) Define "very". After sky-high taxes, agent fees, and a massive health insurance plan after leaving the league, that money would last a couple years of a modest lifestyle. But are the guys that aren't even making the team really getting beat up so badly in their few years there? I seriously don't know the answer to this. It isn't sarcasm. I would just think that the vast majority of these lingering injuries, and the issues associated with them, come during the actual games.

Joe Garagiola, Jr. That's a name that White Sox fans have to be more familiar with than any other organization's fans (besides the Diamondbacks).

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 28, 2011 -> 12:33 PM) Just wait until he's older...he'll know to appreciate the game and won't get as mad The angriest I've ever been watching the Sox was when Jenks blew a save against the Indians in 2005 after Aaron Boone singled up the middle against him in the 8th. Haha, nicely played. The angriest I've ever been was when Jenks blew the save in the World Series. I kicked a pretty heavy coffee table across the room. It very easily could have broken my foot, so I was lucky. I was in college at the time and nobody else was a Sox fan. The room was awkwardly quiet until Pods won it

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Apr 28, 2011 -> 12:32 PM) I was hit by a line drive foul ball when I was ten and a fat woman took it from me. Fat people The closest I ever came was back in 2000. I was in the first row in right-center field. Two outs and the Sox were down a few. Harold Baines (who was just recently acquired) comes in to pinch hit. He hits what looks to be a grand slam and it's coming directly at me. The ball was caught right against the wall on the track. That is the closest I've ever been, and I didn't even have a legitimate shot of catching it since it was obviously still in play. The next closest play was probably 5 or more rows away, and usually in the next section.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 28, 2011 -> 01:22 PM) That's not true. http://deadspin.com/#!5795895/dear-rog...reer-looks-like 27 guys are cut from each training camp during and after the preseason each year, which in total is the equivalent to more than 1/3 of the league. Some of those guys end up on the practice squad and I don't know how those types are paid, but the minimum salary in the NFL for rookies (according to answer.com) is $285K. They do well for themselves, but most of those guys don't make it long in the NFL and then they have to go find real work, so $285K is not going to cover too much for too long. Beyond that, as Jackson points out in the article, these guys are destroying their bodies just trying to get food onto the table. How much of an economic impact do injuries like that affect a person? It's certainly possible that those types of injuries may not allow a person to do any sort of physical labor afterwards and it's possible that a head injury or two takes away some mental capacity. Beyond the hypothetical mental capacity drain, I tend to doubt a lot of these players are actually capable or prepared to work any sort of desk job, and some of them end up suffering with severe mental illnesses as a result of playing in the league as well. I don't know enough about hockey salaries to compare that, but this is a completely different scenario than MLB or NBA teams. Guys that sign a contract in those leagues are guaranteed their salary (unless it clearly states otherwise). Brent Lillibridge is guaranteed to make $400K this year. I understand how you mean this in regards to possible medical bills, but a year or two of that salary would go a very long way unless you get seriously injured.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 28, 2011 -> 02:53 PM) If they're logging it on the plane, I don't see why the storage would be more cumbersome or expensive on the ground. Currently they record something 24 hour chunks and re-write over old data on the planes. According to wikipedia (supreme authority), the space shuttles used this sort of data logging and didn't have onboard FDR's. I'd imagine that's due to the likelihood of an FDR burning up or being lost in space. Here's the FAA's TSO on FDR's, FYI: http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_G...;FILE/C124a.pdf Trying to be confusing or just in a very serious rush? When was this crash, anyway? I don't believe I've heard about it.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Apr 28, 2011 -> 02:09 PM) Forgot about that. WHAT UP JOE?! I believe this to be the case, but I want proof. I ask any of these writers to release a column next week where the first letter of the first four sentences spell M-I-L-K. Do it!

Ugh, that almost makes it sound like they gave him the security of another year because of all of the issues he and KW caused last season. Either way, I'm glad that Ozzie (unlike many fans right here on this board) understands that it's the manager who pays for the failures of the team and its players.