Milkman delivers

QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 25, 2011 -> 10:36 AM) I liked it. So I guess I am in the middle. I agree more with this sentiment. It was good enough, but that movie should not have been nominated for Best Picture.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 04:35 PM) So 127 hours wasn't good. Yep.

Roland was a warrior from the Land of the Midnight Sun With a Thompson gun for hire, fighting to be done

QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 09:44 PM) While in this particular instance I disagree with him, I think he has a point. Almost everyone here seems to believe that there is no downside to dumping money and time/patience into player development. As if it's just a simple matter of the more you invest, the better the return. That simply is not the case, and yet no one seems willing to discuss it. There are all kinds of pitfalls involved in spending big dollars on high-profile prospects, whether they be a high attrtition rate, trying to determine which players to hold on to and which to move, the time spent trying to develop these players, including the opportunity costs involved, etc. It simply is not an open and shut case. While no one would argue that having a farm system full of elite talent is a bad thing, it's not just a matter of spending the money = elite, cost-controlled talent all across the diamond on your parent club. Now I do agree with what Fathom pointed out, and I think the Red Sox are probably the best example of that philosophy. They're willing to trade just about any player in their system for proven talent. When they do bring up a homegrown player to the parent club, it's usually because there were no better options, not because they had some grand plan for that player. I really wish we would pay over slot so we could more closely emulate that philosophy, not so I could watch Gordon Beckham alternate between the next Chase Utley and the next Bobby Hill.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 07:39 PM) The only player on that list we actually drafted and developed is Chris Sale, a can't miss that any idiot could turn into a good player. I appreciate the effort, though. I feel like I'm going to point this out in a ton of threads as well, but April and May games count. In fact, our performance in them was probably the #1 reason we missed the playoffs last year. Many years.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 10:04 PM) It appears that Daisuke Matsuzaka has figured some s*** out in the past week or so...has a 14 inning scoreless streak going. Additionally, they really have to do something about the situation where a closer blows the save, then his team retakes the lead and he becomes the pitcher of record and picks up the win. He should be automatically disqualified from picking up the win if he blew the game in the first place. I agree wholeheartedly with that second paragraph. In regards to the first, I'm pretty sure that's his thing. He'll have stretches of being great, and then he'll have a bunch of games where he only pitches 5 innings and gives up 5 runs.

QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 07:05 PM) Looking for some action and violence so gonna watch "Faster". Not asking for much. And you won't get it.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 06:12 PM) At what point do you bench Rios? Definitely seems like he's taking his struggles at the plate to the field. Who cares anymore? It's starting to look like the players have given up on the team more than we pessimists have.

Somebody mentioned it already, but it's hilarious that so few games is not enough to be worried about the Sox. But on the other hand, a few starts for the Sox last year was certainly enough to declare that Hudson would never cut it in the AL and a similar amount this year is sufficient to prove he's not good at all.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 05:37 PM) I see that fox interviewed peavy in the third inning today - anyone catch this? What was said? Almost nothing, as the inning was over immediately. Just the same old fluff, really.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 05:14 PM) It doesn't take much for this board to get to this point. I can't believe there continue to be posts like this. How bad does this team have to get before it's "reasonable" to be upset? I mean, do they have to be the consensus worst team in baseball? Even then, it's probably not acceptable to some because at some point in the entire history of the game, some team probably went from last in all of the sport to first.

Sick of this team

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 10:14 AM) The flip side is that they have at least been in it pretty much every year of the Ozzie/KW team, except for 2007. Plus flags fly forever. When you prove that you can win, you get well deserved leeway. People love to forget how the won 90 games in 2006 after having a pitching staff throw a whole extra month which I think is pretty impressive. Plus KW has made some great trades to get this team where it is (McCarthy for Danks comes to mind right away) There are issues I have (stop playing small ball Ozzie; Draft better KW) but these kinds of "FIRE EVERYONE POSTS IT'S 17 GAMES!!!!!" have me questioning if people have been through an actual baseball season before. And as he said, which people seem to ignore each time, is that this isn't a reaction to the most recent play of the team. He and I (and quite a lot of people) have wanted a change for a long time. The recent play is just additional reasoning to want it. We can say this all year (we have done so for the last few seasons) and when it happens again next year, somebody like you will AGAIN say, "you're just overreacting to a small sample size!"

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 09:43 AM) This KW/Ozzie duo has lived off of 2005. Prior to that KW, never once made the playoffs in four years. And since then, he has only made the playoffs one year. So that's two playoff appearances in 10 years when on most years, two of the other five teams in the division are 70-win clubs. The Sox have had the highest payroll numerous years and been in the top two probably every year in the division. I have been on the fire KW/Ozzie bandwagon since 2007 and still am there. Screw loyalty, baseball is a business and KW/Ozzie are not doing their jobs. Yes, the Sox have had the highest or second highest payroll each year since KW took over. And yes, I'm fairly certain that the division has been home to 2 of the worst 3 teams in the AL in every year, too.

Just a question, but when is it officially OK to worry about this team? I'm looking for an exact date.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 10:10 PM) YEAH MARK PRIOR HAS MADE AS MANY APPEARANCES IN AAA AS THIS FOOL Seriously though, it's starting to feel like all of those Prior/Wood "simulated games" and "towel exercises" that we used to hear all about.

QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 05:32 AM) If we pool all of our Soxtalk resources, think we could buy the Dodgers? We could run it my committee, we'd win a WS every year. You have such an open disdain for this place.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 11:08 AM) Who would I argue on our roster has been better than D1? Jackson? I don't even mean it as an insult. Guys like you and Badger just love to argue and play the devil's advocate. So when I made a definitive statement such as Danks has unquestionably been the best starter, I almost expect a rebuttal.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 10:17 AM) last year we evaluated hudson based off 3-4 starts too. You are always good for a concise and apt statement in a very argumentative thread. It's awesome.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 08:53 AM) Just because Danks didn't sign the extension doesn't mean he wont. He's simply betting that he can get more money, and I don't really blame him. Ultimately I think he signs if the Sox pony up for 5 years which in this particular case I have no problem with. He has shown he can stay healthy and I think he has been the best pitcher on the team the past 3 years. How do you "think" something that is a fact? Danks HAS been the best starter, and there is no question. Although now that I've said that, I'm sure Balta or someone who loves to argue will try to refute it

Yay!

And the Sox have given us some optimism for tonight, so there's a relief.

QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 21, 2011 -> 07:40 PM) You are correct, Mr. Rhombus. QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Apr 21, 2011 -> 07:41 PM) That hurt my feelings. BOOO! Haha, no offense meant by it. It's just that a surgeon performing a procedure and guys making millions of dollars to play a game are two entirely different things.

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Apr 21, 2011 -> 06:35 PM) I don't think so. I think they are human beings that react to stress like other human beings. If you think that a "professional" can not be negatively affected by booing from the home crowd, how would you like it if you were having surgery and people in the operating room were booing the surgeon. I don't see that as a positive. Since I want the Sox to win BADLY (getting depressed I'm ashamed to say), I hope for things that are positive. They can not be motivated more than they already are. They need to loosen up. Konerko is one the most uptight players and I think that rubs off on the rest of the team. How about Konerko in a Flash costume? Might give him an edge to keep him from getting picked off. Wow, I'm trying to think of the analogy I mocked earlier this week for being terrible, but it doesn't come to mind. It doesn't matter anyway, as this one is twice as bad.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 21, 2011 -> 04:39 PM) Clayton Kershaw is a stud. Feels like we're watching the makings of a HOF career. It's like we hear this a couple of times a year now. This is nothing against Kershaw, as he just may do that, but it seems like two or three players get talked about each year as though they're the next big thing. They sign big deals and sort of lose their luster.