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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 02:05 PM) Because they are a game up on their toughest competition and a half game back of the next toughest team. I won't worry about CLE & KC til June & July come around and they are still up there. We've seen this song and dance before. It's always too early to worry around here for a million different reasons. It usually ends the same, though.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 02:03 PM) If we are in this state at the end of May, early June, I agree. On April 18th this is just a waste of e-space. Three weeks into the season is too early to declare it over, but it certainly isn't too early to begin to wonder.

I find it funny that, almost immediately after a thread was created saying that things can't get worse, they got worse.

No matter what anyone says, the thread title is a very real possibility given the current state of this team.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:27 PM) Well those people aren't wrong as he still hasn't pitched. When you're talking about a pitcher who keeps hurting some area of his pitching arm, it's pretty impossible to be optimistic on the outlook of said pitcher. This team overall is going to be just fine but I have no confidence in saying the same about Jake Peavy. I don't know, man. That really depends on your definition of fine. I can still see them winning the division, but I don't think even that will pull the type of attendance that the team needs to cover its payroll as the divisional race will likely be one between a bunch of gimps just hobbling to the finish line. They can take the division, but they'll get rolled in the playoffs like 2008.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:17 PM) I haven't seen this movie and never will. The Scream franchise, and most horror movies in general, just doesn't do it for me. But, it is possible to get stabbed in the brain and continue to function. I think it has to be a perfect scenario, but I know I've seen news stories about things like that happening.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:07 PM) HE STARTED IT! QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:09 PM) Right. I'm all about the Bulls winning, but this is a Sox thread. I'm a little overloaded with the Bulls right now with the wall to wall discussions on both of the radio stations. I've waited all winter for Sox stuff and I don't need it tainted with Bull/Bears talk. Well, I didn't mean it quite so seriously as Chet

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) This season. You are declaring setbacks before they even occur. Might as well wait a little bit before we decide he's not going to pitch this season. The guy had a serious surgery in the offseason and we're b****ing that he's not pitching 3 weeks into the season. No matter how you spin it, leaving a rehab start with discomfort much earlier than planned is a setback.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 12:01 PM) What on Earth are you arguing then? You admit Rose > Paul (yay, you DO have eyes!). The birth certificates do not lie... the player values are WAY different, yet I'm a homer? It makes no sense. Please relegate discussion of winning Chicago sports teams to their proper venues.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 08:54 AM) He is Mike Ditka. He had one fantastic season followed by several years of disappointing teams. He needs to go. 2005 is long gone. That's a perfect analogy. A relatively crappy coach/manager who has reached god-like status to moronic fans based on a single championship that was earned off of the fruits of another coach's labor. The Bears had the defense of Buddy Ryan and the Sox had the pitching staff of Don Cooper. The Bears defense and the Sox pitching were 90% of the reason that those teams won. You could probably have switched Ditka and Guillen, neither guy having anything but a rudimentary knowledge of the others' sport, and the results would likely have been the same due to the play of the 1985 defense and the 2005 pitching.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 08:06 AM) They woke up last year without a new manager. Let's just be honest...we all know it's the division or bust here. Talk to me about a new manager late in the season. Maybe we'll get lucky and we can "Trade" Ozzie to some other team at the end of the year. The only thing that keeps me relatively happy about this team being the same old garbage we see every year is that fact that I know it means Ozzie is gone in the end.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 11:42 AM) First it was a shoulder and everyone was sure he was done, now its his lat and everyone is sure he is done. How about waiting for some actual information? And yet, here were are, still waiting for this guy to throw a meaningful pitch for the Chicago White Sox.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 09:56 AM) Sucks, but its still mid-April. The posts ready to write him off for the year or the whole contract already are hilarious. Why, exactly? Please explain why it's hilarious to not expect this guy to pitch [well] this season or next season after which he walks. He has not been healthy for this club at all. We could sign Mark Prior and when he eventually gets hurt, someone will still say that we shouldn't overreact until the facts are in because he could still conceivably, by some strike of luck, not have a "serious" injury.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 09:30 AM) I'll wait and see what the news is before throwing more dirt on Peavy's grave. The last time he had a setback it was nothing, and he was throwing within days. It's still another setback which will likely cause him to miss at least another month. And then during the remaining portion of his rehab, he'll probably have another setback. I don't understand the optimism with Jake Peavy. He's been a member of this club for almost 2 years and he's been healthy for a total of about 3 months. He has been an absolute bust. If he ever does get healthy, he really ought to sign the most extremely owner-friendly contract in the history of baseball since he's been paid like a top 5 pitcher in baseball for doing absolutely nothing.

QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 07:59 AM) This team has got to be considered underachieving again, seemingly a trademark of Guillen managed teams.

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 07:53 AM) Agreed! Hell, at the beginning of the season, I'd be happy with a .500 record for April the way they seem to start slowly. I am not giving up on this team yet, I just may have to look away at times because it is too painful to watch. Fans have a right to boo the Sox. I have a right to boo the fans. BOOO! Well, then they better have a ridiculous May, June and July since they always seem to end slowly, too.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Apr 18, 2011 -> 11:41 PM) Somehow, someway Humber just has to keep pitching decent(which I have no faith that he will) but ya, I'm pretty much done with Peavy. Good thing is that we gave up nothing, bad thing is that we're obviously strapped with his contract now. Also, absolutely no reason to give up on this season, this division is still ours for the taking but this seriously puts a damper on some things. Yeah, we're good enough to win this division. That's not saying much, though, as about 7 other non-Central, AL teams could.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 18, 2011 -> 11:27 PM) Personally, with the amount of cash he's cost me only recently, if I was Reinsdorf KW would be gone. Manny, Peavy, Griffey... it's over man. You are burning cash now. Especially after this season and the turnout they will get for the season (bad). Hell, I'm probably not gonna go to many games this year. This team doesn't deserve my money and I'm going to do my part to ensure that as many members of this club are gone next year as possible. I'll probably just go to games that I get free tickets for, which usually ends up being about five.

It's time for someone to take this lame horse out behind the barn and put him down. He was an utter failure for this team, no question. But I guess this proves that he's NOT injury prone, since this isn't his lat or ankle, right? Right?!

QUOTE (oldsox @ Apr 16, 2011 -> 09:51 AM) Humber one of Kenny's better moves? I don't know about that.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 16, 2011 -> 06:44 AM) Really? You were in total denial about Bobby Jenks' declining performance last year. The Sox for as how terrible they have played recently, and without Dunn for half the time and Peavy for the whole time, and dropping 5 flyballs, and having their new closer 0-4 in save opps and having their defensive specialist 3B on pace for 50 errors and the guy a lot of people thought should win a GG at SS on pace for about 40 errors, are 2 games out of first place, This team should be fine, the only thing that concerns me is the total lack of fundamentals, which if you looked at it objectively, has been a trait of Ozzie Guillen led teams more often than not. Is that Ozzie's fault? I don't know Fielding in general, throwing to the wrong base, missing cutoff men, failing to get bunts down, failing to move men over, the list goes on and on. I think KW needs to tell Ozzie to make this weekend a bunt free weekend. They were 0 for 2 yesterday. Its just a waste. Ramirez goes up to try to bunt, he has no chance getting it down, its almost like he wants to get behind in the count on purpose to increase the degree of difficulty for his AB. BTW, the Sox are currently on pace to win 87 games. The thing I hate most about Ozzie is his inability or refusal to learn. We see the team fail miserably over and over at the things you mentioned, but he continues to give up outs by having them continue to do those things. It's like we play each game with 24 outs to work with instead of 27 right from the get-go.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 16, 2011 -> 08:54 AM) That's how I feel about last night. Right or wrong, I chalked it up as a lose as soon as I saw the pitching match up. For my money, Humber has been everything we could've asked of him.

It's unfortunate that the league counts games that we only "lost" the same as games we actually lost.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Apr 15, 2011 -> 07:34 PM) The Twins blow this season. Time for Sox fans to quit sucking at the Twins teet. And time for the Sox to plain stop sucking.

QUOTE (YASNY @ Apr 14, 2011 -> 10:42 PM) I learned very early in my soxtalk experience to never argue with Steff. Great lady but she can be a bulldog. That's one way of putting it