Milkman delivers

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 04:18 PM) I'd consider trading Freddy Garcia. I don't see where I've ever said that I wouldn't. But I don't think I'd trade Freddy for a reliever, as our bullpen is one I'm confident in. I like and trust our bullpen, especially now without Politte. I know some people lost their minds after Friday's start and forgot that we'd had about a month of excellent bullpen work going into the start of this series, but I didn't, and I like our Pen as it stands. I truly expect Javier to pitch much better in the second half, and Garland too. There should be no doubt that Buehrle'll be okay, and Contreras, either. Freddy's our weakness because he isn't throwing like he used to, but overall, I don't look at Freddy and say, "We're f***ed!" everytime we go into one of his games. And, a clarification: by "We'll be fine" I meant the point that we had an awful beginning this year, then kicked it up. I think the same'll happen here. We were swept by the Yankees. We'll survive. On a personal note, I think McCarthy is very overrated, and I don't think he ever becomes better than a third starter. I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't look at him and say, "Ace!" That's completely unfair. There have been plenty of people, myself included, that have said we need a good RH set-up man in the bullpen. We didn't just suddenly have knee-jerk reactions, which you're painting it as, because the bullpen imploded the other day.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:45 AM) Who's arguing? You seem to think that there's no chance that our starters are gonna come around. So why not take yourself out of your misery and stop watching? What I'm saying is that I'm not gonna start arguing with you about me not watching games, etc. and bring this entire thread to crap. You're clearly prodding me, and I'm not going to get into it. So, just forget it.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 03:17 PM) Garcia with another middle of the rad to poor outing. He gave up another 2 homers, but we had our chances for the offsne to deliver but they failed. The 8th inning Uribe should have been able to put down the bunt and couldn't and a DP ended the inning after we had 2 runners on with no outs. PK did his DP routine in the 9th. I don't know what to make of this starting staff. Garland seems to be gelling now and of course Contrears has been good, but shaky as of late. Buerhle has really been crap the last three games. But he has had bad stretches before and then finds it again. I hope it's soon. Garcia and Vazquez just suck. There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that today's outing was piss poor, not "middle of the road" or decent or whatever. He gave up 6 runs in 7 innings. That's s***ty, and that's what we should expect from him every time he takes the mound. And I was very happy to hear Hawk and DJ speak candidly. I couldn't stand hearing them basically lie to us for months trying to make everything concerning the starters seem golden.

I hope they use the offday to make a trade sending Freddy packing and bringins us back a stud reliever. Our rotation is so overrated and overpaid.

And I'm now convinced that the AL East is better than the AL Central. The only team that we can beat in that division is the Orioles. The Tigers were even beaten by the Yankees and Red Sox.

And Dye finishes it by swinging a really bad pitch.

So that's like 17 on the year for Konerko?

Konerko is such a rally killer.

That was so close. So very close.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 02:58 PM) Am I actually seeing an argument between two of the most optimistic posters on this site? Next thing you know is that Milkman and I are going to get into an argument. I was thinking the same thing. Oh, and you suck.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 02:57 PM) Shut up It's just simply amazing that we're almost 100 games into the season, and we still have the same holes on our roster that we did the opening weekend. Somewhere along the line, our rotation has become a hole, too.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 02:54 PM) I would have rather had a righty on the bench we could have hit in that situation. Lefties have no prayer against Rivera. Of course, Gload continues to be a waste of a roster spot. What the f*** are you talking about? Gload can do everything Mackowiak does for a fraction of the cost. He's just not getting a chance.

Ha, we suck.

Uribe fails. That is not surprising since he put himself in such a hole with the terrible bunts. Ozzie, please realize that nobody on our team has the ability to bunt. Stop being a dumbass.

Well, we've screwed up another bunt. We are pathetic.

Uribe beat Rivera last year in the Bronx. Let's do it again.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 02:40 PM) Or I could just ban ya for making a post like this. Is the description under your name from Family Guy? The one where they show Bill Clinton sitting naked in a chair in the Oval Office?

QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 02:37 PM) Garcia was hitting 92-93 consistently on the gun that inning. Looks like he can still throw it when he wants. He better stop being a woman and do this more often. I'm sure the gun's just wrong.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 02:36 PM) I think Freddy is still in because he's not in line for the W yet. Exactly. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. Uncle Ozzie has to look out for his own.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 02:34 PM) Detroit's pitching has looked quite mediocre vs the Royals. It's the beginning of their downfall.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 02:31 PM) I think the opposite....he put us in a huge hole rather early in this game. He's just lucky he's buddies with Ozzie....95 pct of MLB starters would have been pulled in the 4th inning. I was being extremely sarcastic. You know me better than that.

As bad as Garcia's pitched today, he's really kept us in the game.

Everyone, welcome to 2001-4.

That was a damn good job, Jim, Paul, and Jermaine. You guys rock when we get runners on with nobody out.

Wow, the middle of our order really knows how to f*** up a big opportunity.