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QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 09:20 AM) A 3rd team could be involved in the deal, or the Marlins could just then on trade Garland to another team for prospects. but why would random 3rd team want to give prospects for garland when they could have done so for willis? unless we were to include prospects with garland in a deal to get willis, which i don't think is the best idea. willis would get pwned in the AL.

Personally, I'm not trading Buehrle at his lowest trade value ever, when he has shown a history of being a top pitcher (not an ace, but a top #2 starter). There's no reason to trade Buehrle at this point. With the way he finished the season, Freddy Garcia would net the most profit. QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 09:04 AM) Trading Jon Garland would be the bane of stupidity. Unless it gets us Erik Bedard (+a prospectc) in return I want no parts of it. Why, oh why, would the Orioles trade a better starting pitcher AND a prospect to downgrade and get a more expensive pitcher? Bedard > Garland RIGHT NOW, and in the FUTURE.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 08:53 AM) 35 year old lead off hitter is a no-no if you ask me. Theres gotta be someone better out there. Juan Pierre. I don't see how you don't take a run at this guy... he started incredibly slow, but hit incredibly well over the last three months. Plus, Ozzie has some history with him (not sexual!)

QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 08:36 AM) Don't tell that to him this year.. .295/.361/.400 or say, last year .275/.356/.428 That being said, I wouldn't want him either. I mean, if you want to weigh your leadoff responsibilities on a soon-to-be 35 year old who has averaged 82 games played over the last three seasons... if roberts is the answer, i dont want to know the question!

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 08:29 AM) More likely Dave Roberts will be our leadoff and either Sweeney or Fields gets traded. I'd prefer Podsednik to Dave Roberts. Roberts is not a major league starter anymore IMO.

I'm still reeling because we dealt Matt Karchner for him

Good luck to Joey, though I doubt he'd land the job.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 06:48 PM) Steve, I've been around here long enough that everbody should know how thankful I am for last year. Last year was my greatest sports moment/memory in my 23 years on earth. However, that was last year. What has happened this year is just despicable. whatever. this team won the world series last year, and is almost 20 games over .500 this year... take your ass to Kansas City, the North Side, or f***ing seattle man.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 02:52 PM) I won't cheer this team for s***. This was a bust of a season. Period. how quickly ye forget.

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 11:12 AM) What's the rotatoin going to be?? you never know with KW, but my guess would be Jose Contreras Mark Buehrle Jon Garland Javier Vazquez Brandon McCarthy

Sure, this was a disappointing season, but how many people get the chance to see their team even try to defend a World Championship? KW will have this team where it needs to be next season, but I just wanted to point out that it was still an enjoyable season to watch, and I'll never forget the rain-delayed game vs. Cleveland on a Sunday night in early April... presenting a World Championship Banner. Oh, and then the Ring Ceremony the following Tuesday. Let's go White Sox! For 2005, the celebration that was this entire last year, and for the future, which is incredibly bright!

Pablo Ozuna... popular on the South Side of Chicago and on the South Side of Chicago... no trade value.

PICK UP THE OPTION. this isn't even a question.

Here's my take. Brandon McCarthy will be decent... like 4.20 ERA decent. He will not be God. He will not be dogturds. He will be decent.

"She's Got Issues," - The Offspring not because it pertains to anything, but just because it's an awesome song.

yeah, but you say injuries like its a known fact... aside from Jose Contreras, there has been no documented injury in this rotation... Freddy says that his velocity is down because of the WBC and he is "hurt"... could just be politics trying to stay in Chicago. No definite, documented injuries can point to the following ERA's. Jon Garland: 4.30 Mark Buehrle: 4.79 Javier Vazquez: 4.70 Freddy Garcia: 4.63 oh, and in his unfamiliar role, McCarthy had a better WHIP this season than Garland and Buehrle... just don't use unknown and rumored injuries as reasons to write off the 2006 season as a fluke for these pitchers. im not a huge McCarthy supporter, and I love our top 4 (Buehrle, Garland, Garcia, Contreras) as much as anyone... I'm just saying that there are question marks. I'm not against trading B-Mac however... he has a lot of value right now, and if he can be packaged to get the right guy, I'm all about it. However, the players we have "passed" on that included B-Mac in the rumor were AJ Burnett, Miguel Tejada (though no real trade was ever out there) and Alfonso Soriano, none of which would have helped our pitching staff this season.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 12:19 PM) Really? In your scenario we then need to accept that last year was just a fluke. In the course of one season, Freddy now sucks, Buehrle sucks, Contreras is a wobbly ship. The only unknown was Vasquez. Mm. No. My scenario simply states that assuming they will all revert back to 2005 form (sans Vazquez) is idiocy. To say that they aren't question marks just lacks common knowledge of baseball. If everyone who had a bad season reverted back to their greatness the year before, then you would still see a lot of headlines on Jose Lima... Saying something is a question mark is not saying that these pitchers now suck and must be written off. I was simply disagreeing with your bogus statement that our five starters are not question-marks, but Brandon McCarthy is...

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 12:05 PM) Deal him. KEEP THE FIVE ALIVE. We need smallball "O" and speed--i.e., something instead of Podsednik. Bmac can buy us that. Our starters will be fine next year, rested and healed. BMac's a question mark. They're not. ha. yeah. javier vazquez's inability to put together a complete season since he left Montreal mean's nothing... and lets all just assume Freddy Garcia will be fine because he's had two good starts... oh and Mark Buehlre will magically figure things out, and Jose Contreras will go back to the form that he held for what? 4 months? give me a break... saying our five starters aren't a question mark is dumb.

We will see what happens... personally, I'd like to see B-Mac in the 5th starters spot, but having a vet around who could step in in case he does in fact suck balls would be key.

it's too bad... this team looks good tonight... they could be so good... but minny isnt letting us back in this.

aren't we like 11th in the AL in team ERA or something ridiculously bad?

PITCHING

his strikeout rate in charlotte suggests he's still a year away, but if he cant through the grace of god connect on a meaningless homer in the 9th inning of a lost game... MORE POWER TO HIM! make those vets look a little worse!

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 04:02 PM) This is 2006, not 2005. They got plenty of ovations last year. you're insane. this team deserve a standing ovation even if they fell short. most of them were key members of the 2005 season, and if you can forget that, then what are you doing here?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 01:44 PM) Hey, KFan. I gots just one thing to say to yous... Talk to me when you guys actually make the series. that's the first thing I thought... yeah, im disappointed the sox are blowing it... but 2005 World Champions will always have a great ring to it!