DrunkBomber

It was taken out of context and I need much more than one clip before I am going to label somebody a racist

QUOTE(lostfan @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 06:02 PM) +1 Does +1 mean that you made the brilliant point that there are people in Facebook groups that are calling Obama racist even though it has no relevance in this conversation or is it a celebration of a moral victory that you and bmaggs achieved by making fun of a conversation "on a white sox message board" that both of you are actively involved in?

QUOTE(bmags @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 05:47 PM) as opposed to a political section of a white sox baseball forum. Well considering thats where this conversation is taking place I would say its a little more reasonable to try and follow it here than for me to worry about what Facebook groups think about. Thanks again for important insight and continuing effort in keeping the discussion on track. Im glad now I know what Im up against so from now on if I want your opinion I will flip on MTV or Oprah

What more can you say about these White Sox, except at least theyre not from Canada.

These call are getting a little ridiculous

JD looked like he almost fell apart on his way to second.

QUOTE(lostfan @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 02:27 PM) Actually I don't have you blocked, I'm still reading your posts, the only time I wasn't was right after I did it that day when you kept throwing those veiled/backhanded insults at me while calling me a racist to boot which I didn't appreciate, to say the least. Anyway I have to raise the BS flag about nobody saying he preached nothing but hate and "Obama supporters" twisting words, if this statement doesn't hold water go back and look at the OP. Then go turn on any news channel that's still talking about it, even CNN in all its liberally biased glory, you will see Republican strategists saying this ad nauseum. Or go anywhere on the internet, try a Facebook group. People are saying it and I don't have to twist anything. I wasnt aware that we were discussing comments from such highly regarded sources as Facebook groups. Maybe it was irrational of me to think we were discussing things people said in THIS forum. Maybe you can get the sympathy of being called racist from the people that called me racist because I have no regrets of anything that I said, which by the way you are extremely exaggerating.

QUOTE(lostfan @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 01:52 PM) I thought that by now everybody pretty much agrees that it was more than one occasion that he's said something like that. If that was the point, we'd be about done talking about it by now wouldn't we? Howcome it keeps coming back to that? Answering my own question: because people get all kinds of caught up in this and say things like "he's preached nothing but hate for the past 20 years and Obama's close to him, and therefore Obama must subscribe to all of this hate"... that is where the crazy jump in logic happens. I know you have me blocked but this is another example of Obama supporters twist on words. Nobody is saying hes preached nothing but hate for 20 years were just saying that he has preached enough to raise some flags. Nobody is saying that Obama absolutely subscribes to all the hate either, were saying that a 20 year relationship with someone who is labeled as your spiritual adviser that says things like Wright has said also raises some questions. No, not everybody agrees that it is more than one occasion because that is the only bullet in northsides arsenal. Apparently for him there isnt enough PROOF to label Wright a racist and he still contests this MIGHT be an isolated incident.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 12:47 PM) seriously, again, you keep making yourself out to be a victim of arguments that no one is making. No one is saying his comments weren't bad. And yet you still seem to think that judging people on one sermon by the pastor is, in your words, its :all I need". Since you are apparently incapable of seeing how that makes it impossible to have a cogent discussion with you, let's try a different topic you brought up - the effect on the election. Now here maybe we can have a good discussion. I certainly agree it will have an effect on the election - but ultimately, I think the effect will be negligible, and I'll try to explain why... who is it that is most up in arms over this? Clearly, its the conservatives/neo-cons in the center an right of the GOP. How many of them were going to vote for Obama to being with? Very very, few. In terms of its affect on the election we know the far right will be going for McCain no matter what. Where I think it will hurt him is with Clinton supporters. The two candidates have created as much separation between the sides as there is between the right and left and a lot of Clinton supporters are going to vote for the third liberal McCain.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 12:36 PM) I know that? No, I do not. Do you know otherwise? I'd bet the guy probably has said divisive things before. Obama has admitted that is the case, and it makes sense. If I had to guess, that would be my guess - I just prefer not to guess. But my point stands - he is judging Wright, and Obama, as being racists, because of one video. Prove me wrong. Have you or Mr. Drunk or anyone else seen more than a couple of these videos? Heck, have you or they even watched the entire video of that sermon (which I have, in this case), not just the few "highlights"? Out of curiosity, how many people honestly think its as unreasonable as Northside to draw the conclusion that Wright is racist based on not one, but all the videos (including the longer one) and Obamas reaction to him? Obama himself said he has heard Wright say that stuff on more than one occasion so if it wasnt that bad Obama wouldnt have to separate himself from him. If you need more proof that Wright is racist and want to continue with that explanation thats fine, but its far from unreasonable for someone to draw that conclusion.

QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 12:16 PM) No you don't, but if you're going to post your opinion in an online discussion forum, you should be prepared to defend it. Instead, you're just lashing out at anyone who questions whether or not your opinion is well-founded and asks you to explain the apparent leaps of logic. Give me a break. I have continued to say OVER and OVER that this is my opinion, this is how I formed it, this is why it bothers me and I know you may not agree with it but its my opinion and Im entitled to it just as everyone else is to theirs. I have addressed every last statement geared towards me and answered any questions anyone has asked me about how I come to my conclusions. I havent shied away from anything and I continue to get called things like closed minded when every single person in here is doing the same thing I am just on a different side but all of you are being noble and defending the truth and Im just wrong.

QUOTE(iamshack @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 11:10 AM) DrunkBomber, It isn't that we "selectively" are choosing what to react to or comment on because we can't put a dent in your rock-solid logic. It's that you go on and on with these rants and raves, off on tangents, etc. Simply because most of us choose to ignore most of them, such as your "opinion on trial" rant from earlier, does not mean you were in any way winning some sort of debate points. It means that no one felt like wasting their time and energy responding to your rant. Now just a few things: I've watched the larger sermons posted of Rev. Wright on YouTube, and to be honest with you, while they were inflammatory, I didn't even find them to be racist. But even if you do, as others obviously do, I'm a little confused about your reaction. You're on record in this thread over and over and over talking about Rev. Wright spewing hatred and how offensive it is to you, and yet you're also the one throwing the "racist" label around like you're playing ring toss and we are the targets. If you really cannot stand the hatred and inflammatory rhetoric, why don't you attempt to refrain from participating in that a bit yourself? In two threads in which you've participated heavily, you've now labeled Rev. Wright as racist, Barack Obama as racist, Michelle Obama as racist...what is all this accomplishing, other than to be more divisive? If those who are deeply offended by Obama's connections to Rev. Wright wish not to support Obama, they have that right. I'm not understanding what they want those of us who are not particularly offended by it, such as myself, to do about it. My use of the word racist is in response to specific things done and said by the people I am talking about and isnt being pulled out of thin air. Ive obviously said I think Wright and Michelle Obama are racist, and I honestly feel that way. Ive also questioned Obama based on the people he surrounds himself with and by his comments on the radio show about his grandmother being a typical white person. Im not trying to change anybody elses opinions, Im explaining mine and I absolutely stand by my comments about racism just as I did in the other thread that got locked. Im sick of the double standard in terms of racism and Im sick of it being ok to be so openly racist, such as Wright is, just because it is geared towards white "devils." If the shoe were on the other foot and it was a white person who said this level of stuff Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be protesting and calling for the person to be fired but its ok for this guy to say it because hes black. Now, its fairly obvious people are taking jabs at others in this thread to get under their skin and you guys can pile up on me all you want for sticking to my guns but as you CONTINUE to call my opinions wrong realize not one of you has said anything thats even in the realm of discrediting my views. You can use the excuse that the videos on youtube are only a sampling of Wrights sermons and repeat it 100 times but unless theres a big "just kidding" at the end of it then 1 time is all I need. This wasnt something that slipped out, this was a prepared sermon and he knew very well what he was saying and nobody has retracted it. So as unrealistic as Im being to some of you because Im offended by Wright and I have a big problem with Obamas relationship with him I suppose we will have to wait about 6 months to see if I am alone. While there might not be as many people that are as vocal about it as I am it will affect the polls and should be more than enough to keep him out of office as the party you guys so blindly follow continues to destroy their chances in the general election and lose what should have been the second consecutive slam dunk election for the dems. So you guys can label me anything you want and think Im wrong until the election is over but if I want to call someone racist I will. There isnt one person on here who has any more credibility than anyone else and you guys seem to think because youve got the numbers here that you are by default right. So if youre not offended by Wright comments why are you even in here criticizing someone else because they are?

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 10:48 AM) See bolded. That's exactly what I am talking about - the leap of assumption you continue to make. No one disagrees that the part of his sermon we've all seen on YouTube was bad. No one. But you then make the jump from the comments being racist, to the reverend being racist, then make a further jump to Obama being racist. Those are huge jumps to make, unless of course you have sat down and watched the man's sermons and can say this is who he is. Have you done that? Like I keep saying it is my opinion and my opinion isnt on trial. I absolutely do not need to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt to form my opinion. Just because you think its too much of a stretch to call Wright racist doesnt mean I have to. You also have never sat through one of his rants so you are in no way more credible than anyone else. I will stand by my belief that I gathered more than enough evidence for me to think Wright is racist. Its not like he said something that can be misinterpreted. He is flat out spewing hate and I have a big problem with him or anyone that supports him. Your post is acting as an apologist and if thats your prerogative thats fine. If you want to make excuses for Wright go ahead just know that you havent said anything even close to a defense for such hate and if you want to turn the other cheek simply because youre liberal go ahead. I expect more from a presidential candidate and I am 100% confident in the conclusions Ive drawn about Wright and I think its pretty naive on your part to think you know any more about the subject.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 08:00 AM) I think he was actually referring to my post with the racism bit, not jackiehayes'. My point was that it appears to me, no real discourse can be had with the conservatives on this particular issue. They seem to have taken the stance that because Mr. Wright has been seen on YouTube saying something vile (which he did), that it automatically means two things - that Rev Wright must have spent his career spewing that sort of thing constantly, and that Mr. Obama must agree with it. Neither assumption is grounded in any sort of logical reality. If Rev Wright was spewing this stuff all the time, two things would be true - we'd be seeing a lot more videos, and the Obamas would almost assuredly tried to distance themselves from him long ago (like, when Obama started his political career). I further implied that this irrational leap to conclusions could be due to any number of factors - and yes, racism was one possible factor. So were a lot of things, but the biggest one, I think I made clear, was the simple fact that the conservatives were looking for a reason to beat the drum. And this worked nicely. Using the Imus analogy that some have brought up... lets ask this question. When Imus was criticized for uttering those now infamous lines, did anyone say or even think to themselves, "gosh, I bet that means that all of Imus' regular listeners must be racists"? Probably not, because that would be a ridiculous leap. And yet, here we are, seeing some portion of the population doing just that. As with Wright, I am sure that was not the only time that Imus said something questionable. Heck, he's a shock jock, its what he does. But let's ask another question: if it turned out that one of the Presidential candidates was a loyal fan of Imus' show, would people all assume that he/she must be a racist? The analogy has its limits of course. But you see what I am getting at? Are you really gonna try and compare the relationships of listening to someone on the radio and someones spiritual adviser who married him and his wife and baptized their children? There have been other concerns about Obama listed over the course of this whole discussion and for the most part everything brougtt up gets looked over and a lot of the Obama supporters pick and choose what arguments they want to address. To even imply that someone might be racist for criticizing Wright and Obama for his relationship with Wright is laughable. Two days or so ago when someone referred to Obamas comments on the view about if someone were to have the 5 worst things youve said over 20 years played in a loop for 2 weeks and I explained the difference, which was more than "logical," every single person in this thread completely over looks it and moves on to the next point that they figure they have a better shot at discrediting. Even the Obama supporters have at one point or another criticized things that Wright has done or said but since people with different views as you are more harsh on the subject all of a sudden were wrong and racist for it? Now, if anybody considers being outraged by Wrights comments racist then fine, call me a racist because I wont tolerate that level of hate and yes, I have a lot of concerns about a candidate of the presidency having any type of extended relationship with someone like that. You guys can sit there and make excuses for that type of hate or imply that there isnt enough evidence to call Wright a racist but Ill go back and quote another one of my posts that was looked over that my opinion isnt on trial and that every single one of you Obama supporters that thinks you somehow are automatically right because youre in the majority on this specific message board but you are just as close minded as you are trying to say we are except at the other end of the spectrum. That doesnt make you more knowledgeable, that doesnt make you right, that doesnt make you open minded. Ive made it clear in this forum that I am very critical of all three candidates and to be honest I dont like any of them at all but at least you wont see me blindly defending someone just to try and prove a point. All three of these candidates have flaws in their stances and Im sure there isnt one person that agrees with every single position their candidate takes yet there are people that will blindly defend them. Take a look at Athomeboy, critical of people that are critical of Obama but take a look at the articles hes posting about Hillary that are just as slanderous as whats being discussed in terms of Obama but I guess thats ok but why? Because race isnt involved? Because they belong to the same political party? Because there are more Obama supporters here than another candidate? So you guys can continue to discredit our opinions, continue to blindly defend a Pastor who is on the record spewing hate and intolerance and continue to think you are somehow winning this imaginary competition we are having about who is right. So go ahead and criticize me taking a step back and questioning my concerns with a candidate but as youre calling me close minded remember that I have clearly said I am being extremely critical of every candidate. I dont affiliate myself with either party and I am simply voicing my concerns about the substance of the candidates. I dont think Im alone when I say Im not happy with a lot of the things that are going in this country and you better believe Im gonna ask more questions this time around then in 2000 when I voted for Bush just because at the time I considered myself a Republican. There are a lot of people that vote based on the party instead of the candidate and that wont be me anymore but its painfully obvious there is plenty of that around here. So as you continue to call me closed minded even though I am holding all three candidates to the same standard and you are blindly defending the candidate of your choice just remember that I openly say I know everything I post is my opinion and anyone that has a different opinion isnt wrong to them just as mine isnt to me but I would like to have my opinions respected just as I respect others even if you dont agree with it.

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 09:32 AM) Does one have to respect an office that hasn't respected the American people and the constitution? Ok, political rant over.

QUOTE(bmags @ Mar 30, 2008 -> 09:46 PM) http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/us/polit...amp;oref=slogin Here you go, bro. I wasn't saying your concern wasn't valid, I was saying just because it isn't covered doesn't mean he's not saying it. It's more of a condemnation of the media, who has fed into the tit for tat quips and slights as opposed to the 'issues'. If you want me to get Dodd's legislation I'll look for that as well. I appreciate the link. Ill read through it tomorrow at work. Im sure youre right about the reviews Ive seen in the media about it more or less being one sided so when I get a chance Ill check it out.

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QUOTE(bmags @ Mar 30, 2008 -> 05:53 PM) it'd be a valid point if he didn't have a week two weeks ago, where he had a huge speech on foreign policy and a huge speech on the economy. It'd be a valid point if he didn't have a Web site outlining his policies for the country. But he has consistently outlined his plans for the country.. Unfortunately actual policy talk gets lost in the sexy issue of whether a man who has devoted his adult life to public service cares about the country. Well Im sorry but I dont analyze what Obama says the same way you do but that doesnt make my opinion wrong just as yours isnt to you. My point is however that IMO Obama simply lists problems when he speaks but he doesnt shed any light on what he is going to do to stop them. Im not some radical conservative that only watches Fox News and regurgitates what they say. Im an independent and Ive been very critical of all three of the candidates and I use many sources to gather my opinions so I am aware of what stances the candidates have on certain issues and in this thread I have addressed the ones that I am weary of from Obama because more or less he is the only candidate being discussed in this thread. As cliche as it is, I agree with what a lot of pundits have been saying in terms of questioning Obamas substance because I honestly dont feel he has laid out any ground work to accomplishing any of the issues that are feasible. So if you feel like Im not justified for showing my concern about what kind of person Obama is based on anything from his lack of experience, his relationships with people who promote hate and intolerance or even on things like his relationship with Rezco thats fine. But I will reiterate, with the state this country is in right now I dont see anything wrong with exploring every nook and cranny of a candidates character before deciding whether or not they qualified to be my elected leader. If you or anyone else wants to sit back and hope for the best based on speeches a politician recites thats fine, but I dont see the point in criticizing someone who wants to gather as much information they can on every candidate besides what they say in preprepared speeches. Now if I was blindly defending McCain or Hillary thats one thing, but Im not. Im very critical of all of them because of the magnitude of the position they are all lobbying for.

QUOTE(bmags @ Mar 30, 2008 -> 05:55 PM) well, when Obama supporters start threads about McCain being a gay drug abuser that is love with the John Birch society and is , say, an atheist, you can talk about how close minded we are. First of all Im not a McCain supporter. Second of all I didnt start any threads about any candidates I have simply shared my opinions in the existing ones and you might notice I didnt even bother posting in the thread about the cocaine and gay sex because I thought it was ridiculous.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 30, 2008 -> 03:35 PM) We don't need "their type"? I'm going to eschew the usual self-editing here on this and say it. You folks that are pounding this Wright thing into the ground - YAS, bomber, BearSox - were looking for a reason. You were looking for a reason to write off Obama. You didn't like him, which is all fine (in fact there are some good reasons not to), but you couldn't find a specific reason to justify it. So now, we've gotten to the point where you are going to lump Obama and the pastor at his church into an inseperable tandem... you will further ASSUME, without anything like enough data to know a damn thing, that Wright's 20 years of preaching were dominated by racism and hatred... and you will use those two things to cast Obama as not only not a good Presidential candidate, but as a raving racist liar. The good news is, looking at the polls, most of the country doesn't fall for it. Mind you, I think the hard core Republicans are eating it up, and using it to re-energize the neo-con conservative base. And the far left liberals are of course ignoring the whole thing, acting as if Rev Wright doesn't exist. But the difference makers in this upcoming election - the independents and moderates - fortunately, are the "types" that will tend to take things on balance. Instead of being a blind homer, or masking their own racism and hatred by way of the Rove-style accuse-of-same marketing technique, they see Rev Wright as part of the whole picture. His remarks were racist and wrong, Obama made clear he disagreed with them for whatever that was worth, and they are ready to move on - which is not the same as ignoring things they don't like. That's the favorite game of the neo-cons and the ultra-liberals, isn't it? Live in denial of realities that don't sit well with them? Go ahead. Close your minds to anything that makes you uncomfortable. Meanwhile, those of us who are moderates and independents are looking forward to an election in November that we can finally be a little bit happy about - two candidates (Obama and McCain) who are NOT in the far gutter of their respective parties. Two people who are actually willing to work across the aisle and act like reasonable adults. Feel free to ignore that this will be the best available pair of candidates we've had for a long, long time. Take the easy route - hyperbole and pile-on mentality. Enjoy wallowing in your fear-dominated world. Just know that the middle of this country wants no part of it. Interesting to get such an open minded Patriotic response. Its odd I thought my last few posts were discussing Obamas policies and questioning his stances on certain issues and asking his route to achieve his goals but it turns out Im just being racist. Well Im sorry if you dont agree with my views but I will continue to reiterate that your opinion, and thats all it is, isnt any more valid than mine because you like said candidate and you will defend him just as blindly as you say we criticize him. Simply adding in your last post that there are reasons to dislike him besides Wright doesnt justify being open minded. The Wright argument is used in conjunction with other issues that are being applied to question Obamas character and qualifications to lead this country. The topic is far from the only point anyone has made in terms of questioning Obama. However, this is a thread about Wright and I would think that might be why people are discussing it. So if it makes you feel better to call anyone who questions Obama closed minded than you can go ahead and keep spewing it but is it really open minded to blindly defend his every move? Can you not see peoples resentment for the things Wright has said, which is the topic of the thread? When topics like this are discussed there are always going to be people that are at other ends of the spectrum but when one side *cough* Obama supporters *cough* call people closed minded simply because they have a different opinion then them is extremely hypocritical. Now if anything has been proven overwhelmingly for one side or another thats one thing, which it hasnt, but when people with different opinions continue to try to explain where theyre coming from and trying to justify themselves and one side simply dismisses anything said by the other and in turn calls them closed minded its laughable. Now I will continue to use phrases like, in my opinion, the reason I think and what I dont like about this you can continue to use things like Im right and youre wrong.

QUOTE(bmags @ Mar 30, 2008 -> 02:54 PM) yes, the Obama never says how argument...never gets old. damn him for being better at prepared speeches than thinking on the fly. Not like McCain with his "EVERYBODY KNOWS" to every question asked to him, or Iran er Al Qaida er Iran er Al Qaida. This isnt a thread on Britney Spears or anything. I think its a very valid point to wonder how he is going to accomplish all these goals. Maybe all you look for in a President is someone that can read preprepared speeches without any substance but when it comes to becoming the leader of the most powerful country in the free world I think we deserve a little insight instead of taking a politicians word for it. So Im sorry if the argument "gets old" but some people might actually want to know what route the country is going to go in the future even though you obviously dont. As far as the McCain argument, youre barking up the wrong tree, I really dont like him either.

I just dont understand the hard core Obama supporters that are making excuses for Wright and Obama. Everyone gets so caught up when Obama speaks publicly because he uses the word change so candidly but he has not given any kind of glimpse into what he is going to do to generate any change. Its easy to sit there and say youre going to end the war, end racism, lower taxes and start a universal health care system if you dont actually have to say how. Whenever something negative comes out about Obama, which has been leaked by their own party, he gives the most ridiculous explanations and his supporters eat it all up. In fact, for what a great speaker he is supposed to be, the only time he comes across well is when his speech is prepared. Look what happens when he has to think on the fly, like in his interview with the Philadelphia radio show where he called his grandmother a typical white person because he had to think on his feet.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Mar 29, 2008 -> 05:52 PM) Which makes Obama's views on race and bringing people together even more impressive for me. To me its kind of a gray area. He never would have given that speech if it wasnt for Wrights videos so his motives can be distorted. I also dont think he touched on anything that can be looked at as a solution but instead he just acknowledged that there are problems. Also, this discussion seems to be more about what was said by Wright instead of about Obama or his speech. For the most part I have given up on my views on Obama on here because I realize they are just extreme opinions and there isnt much point to arguing about them. My topic of concern, at least in this thread, is more about my thoughts on Wright being racist.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 29, 2008 -> 03:21 PM) Here's a comparison... how come when Don Imus called that women's basketball team "nappy headed hos", he got pretty much crucified... but when this Jeremiah Wright guy says much more offensive stuff, and whole lot more offensive stuff, people make excuses for him? Its because of an underlying double standard that exists and there are always going to be people that will defend one side and those same people will make defending the other side irrational. For example: Don Imus=idiot that said something stupid and got crucified Pastor Wright=public figure who prepares everything he says and tries to promote hate on varying levels. Nobody has even addressed Yasnys post about what Wright wrote about Hamas that was posted on his churches web site.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Mar 29, 2008 -> 02:04 PM) Like Obama said on the View yesterday...if someone were to take the 4 or 5 worst things you've said in the past 20 years and kept showing them on the news over and over again, everyone would think you were an awful person (paraphrased). Like I tried to say in my last post. I dont have a case built up against Wright where I would be able to overwhelmingly prove that he is a racist. However, nobody else on here has anything concrete of the opposite. Also, you have to realize how weak the argument it is to compare stuff Ive said over 20 years to what Wright said. Now if you want to take things that Ive said when Im with my friends thats one thing, which isnt is under attack for Wright because who knows what he says in those circumstances. However, if you want to take things that Ive said to strangers, on camera, to people Im supposed to advise and to children and families than I can safely tell you that you wouldnt be able to find anything that can remotely be compared to what Wright says and thats the difference. Obama himself realized what this guy is doing is wrong and he even felt the need to say he disagrees with him and separated himself from his views but some Obama supporters sit here and still try and say it might be taken out of context or its only a small sample of the mans views or whatever other excuses have been thrown around in this thread. This guy is spewing hate to lots of people and people are overlooking it if they like Obama even though Obama himself acknowledged he disagrees with it and that the point when I call people apologists. As I keep saying, I know its my opinion that this man is racist but in actuality it is a very valid opinion and I came to it in an acceptable manner, and for people to question it and use excuses like "imagine how bad you would look if they took the 5 worst things youve said in 20 years, even though that argument is BS because as I said above this info wasnt cherry picked from 20 years of this mans life, these are comments hes made relatively recently on a public stage for the world to see and that isnt something moot that someone just says in the same manner of talking amongst your friends or family. Its people like Wright that are putting up huge roadblocks in repairing the relationships between blacks and whites by encouraging hate and intolerance and for people to defend him on here honestly boggles my mind.