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what were his other snubs? probably shouldn't post the entire article, but can you atleast say who he though should be replaced ect.. thanks

QUOTE(tealeafreaderii @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 08:10 PM) The Tigers are very worried about the amount of pitches Verlander has thrown this season... I think the last thing we want to do is let him have the week off... Vote for verlander... and vote for his dead arm in he second half. thats dumb, he'd have side sessions in an off week anyways

lmao "mediocre performing pitcher"

QUOTE(Wolverine31 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 07:38 PM) LOL @ the Sox fan who said the Tigers would have no starting pitching w/o Verlander. Do you even look at stats? Our "worst" starter has been Kenny Rogers and his whopping 3.72 ERA. I haven't checked the stats lately but that might be leading your starters. BTW I think Ozzie is even more of a tool for taking all of his players to the game instead of the most deserving players. There's no way guys like Liriano who lead the AL in ERA or Verlander who is third in ERA and has 10 wins did not deserve to go before Ozzie's home team picks. haha yea that was bad of me so I'll apologize we won the world series, ozzie deserves to load up on his own guys, so don't b**** about it the only one that I would question a bit is Buerhle (but before todays disaster outing he had been good)

Lol I love how this thread has all tigers fans in it here are some points you guys should consider 1. sox rotation has pitched like crap, but I don't think it can get any worse, but only better 2. 2.5 is not a large margin at all, and coming out ahead 2.5 games against the Tigers doesn't mean much because you came in 2.5 games up 3. your missing the point about our offense, we don't try and outslug opponents, we have just shown that we are resilient at coming back 4. the tigers are a very young team (much like the Indians last year). It's unlikely that a young team can play consistent .650 baseball for an entire season all in all I expect the Tigers to slip a little bit, not a lot, but I would expect more around 90-100 wins instead of their pace of like 110 The sox haven't hit a complete stride yet because of our pitching, but were working on it and it SHOULD get better

QUOTE(GoTribe @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 07:25 PM) Hafner: Batting .314 #4: Home Runs: 22 #4: RBI: 66 #1: WALKS: 66 #4: RUNS: 64 I Can go on and on.... Hafner deserves it. 4 Grand Slams Already People!!! sorry, Lliriano and his 1.98 ERA is still better

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 07:14 PM) Huh? remember in 03 and 04 when our starters were like loaiza/contreras, buerhle, garcia, garland and then a mixture of players for the 5th spot I think the 5th starter position went like 4-20 or something like that the point is that I doubt the Tigers would have the best record in baseball without verlander

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 07:07 PM) Right. The rest of the Tiger starters have a combined 12.32 ERA. :headshake alright maybe I was being a bit extreme, but they don't have 5 solid starters without him, and we know what the sox did with only 4 good starters...

QUOTE(sin city sox fan @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 06:59 PM) I disagree with that statement....Not only does AJ have great stats this year, but his "tough mental attitude" is inspiration for all the other White Sox. Without AJ, I think this team is easily 4-6 games off its current pace....there's not another player among the 5 that I could say that about. thats not true at all Lliriano is keeping the Twins alive, and without Verlander the Tigers have no starting pitching AJ does represent intangibles that are great for an individual team, not the all-star game

well politte was hurt a lot, so maybe ozzie is checking if his injury had anything to do with his effectiveness to me the difference between a good politte (2005) and a bad polittie (04 and 06) is his confidence level. he just seems to have lost it either way, I'm not mad about the loss because it's only july 2nd, and there was an article in the paper about contreras working on his arm angles (so I know coop is working with pitchers to regain consistency)

in all honesty AJ is prolly the 4th most deserving guy on there

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 03:16 PM) I think you will be surprised after today. If I do hear that out of anyone after the game(Mark,Oz,ect) I will be VERY disipointed. especially after he sucked after the first inning

I feel like novoa has shut us down on a couple occasions I'd be happy to eat my words if I'm wrong though

pods shudda scored there...

this might be the worst two lines of starting pitchers I have seen in a while

that was a funny play lol cubs defense

Thome!

is marks ERA over 4 now?

this kind of reminds me of a game against the expos a couple of years ago, where we let some guy have his major league debut and he allowed like 11 runs in the first inning the sox kept coming back, and the pitching kept blowing it, until we finally lost

can't wait to read Mariottis article about this game

alright Mark, you f***ing suck today and why are you still pitching

atleast we got an out

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 02:42 PM) how is an error and an unbeleivable piece of woodwork out of the zone "falling apart" hmm the 7 runs that he allowed today don't make me very confident that he can get out of this

hmm marks falling apart again

if JD homers right here I bet zambrano tries to tackle him while he's running the bases