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QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 10:46 PM) I was making fun of bruce you said that offman and the score did it too but i didnt say anything about ofman and the score to make you say that. I understand you didn't say anything about the Score - I just pointed out that both stations are sometimes full of themselves. I didn't want to single out Bruce Levine without at least mentioning the Score (Ofman) as well....Nothing against what you said, just myself offering that up.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 09:24 PM) Chicagosports.com is reporting that Willie Harris might be called up to play LF and leadoff. Good grief, that would be a disaster of a move. Harris is a terrible outfielder, and he's done nothing this season to deserve to be on the MLB roster. Please do something else KW! Harris may get called up, and will get some starts in LF, but I don't think he'd become a regular out there while Pods' is injured - I think Guillen would basically platoon and work in Timo Perez, Harris, and Pablo out there.

QUOTE(Adam G @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 10:08 PM) I'd love to have a true #1 pitcher with playoff experience and a ring like Pedro. They dont come cheap. He nearly threw the first no hitter in Mets' history today. I think the Mets would pull back their waiver claims on both both Beltran and Martinez....

QUOTE(scotty22hotty @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 10:41 PM) Free vs 3 prospects + maybe $7mil off his contract? By free, you mean taking on something like $50 million over 4 years that you'd be taking on. If you work out a deal with Cincinnati, you could get them to take around $10-$15 million off of that.

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 10:41 PM) I also didnt say that I loved offman and the score Where did I say that ?

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 10:38 PM) Yah but they said it YESTERDAY bruce says it TODAY My point being that I'm not sure it was breaking news either time - both stations just like to give the impression that their reporters are getting the story first, even if, like in this case, there really isn't a story.

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 10:34 PM) Because i could have told you yesterday griffey passed waivers and yet bruce says it today and makes it breaking news and takes all the credit. Both the Score and ESPN 1000 do that - I heard the Score yesterday on their updates mentioning that 'Ofman is reporting that Griffey cleared waivers and a trade with the White Sox could be possible' as some sort of 'inside info'.... In reality, while they do have some contacts inside the organization, most of their information comes from local newspapers and other Internet sources.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 10:33 PM) Guys almost everyone in the media reported that Vizquel was headed to the Sox this november. Bruce was not the only one. I'm not sure why everyone hates him. I don't hate Bruce Levine - you're right about Vizquel - everyone from the SunTimes/Tribune to the Score/ESPN 1000 all had that as being a foregone conclusion. I think Bruce knows the game. I just laugh at some of his 'inside info' and his player love sometimes.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 10:29 PM) Until you hear something that suggests the Reds want to trade him, carry on with your regular life. Let's just hope that Kenny Williams can find a way to upgrade the team further before August 31st whether it be Griffey Jr. (beware of all the rumors that keep coming up - if something happens, great!, otherwise, carry on, there's nothing to see here) or some other upgrade.

QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 10:25 PM) Thank you, that was the best way to describe it. No problem...Those local reporters (Levine and Ofman) are just hilarious to me - they know the game because they watch it for a living (but probably not any better than a lot of people here), but when it comes to those trade rumors, they don't seem to be reporting any information besides already public knowledge.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 10:12 PM) Anything on Sportsnite? According to Bruce, the 'White Sox are doing everything they can to get this deal done.' He said this towards the end of his talking points.... Started off by saying that that Griffey Jr. cleared waivers, and the White Sox could make a trade with the Reds, but then said that the Reds are for sale, and may not want to trade a marketable player like Griffey Jr, but then said Griffey Jr. and Kenny Williams both would like to make a deal.... Basically, his report was nothing new - it's going to be difficult to make a trade because of the sale of the Reds, the money involved, and then agreeing on players before finally going to Griffey to get his approval. Despite not knowing if the White Sox have actually talken with the Reds about this, being unaware of the players involved in a trade, according to Bruce Levine, the 'White Sox are doing everything they can to get this deal done.' LOL

Apparently, Bruce Levine will have some 'new' info at about 10:20 PM. My guess is that he'll mention Griffey Jr. cleared waivers, and that the Sox are open to talking with the Reds, especially since Pods will be placed on IR.

QUOTE(SpringfieldFan @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 03:18 PM) This is my question too. Wouldn't we know if he were placed on waivers. I am positive I remember seeing "such-and-such placed so-and-so on waivers" in the transactions column of my morning paper at various times in the past. They do still do that don't they? SFF You're referring to the traditional waiver wire that runs all season as opposed to now where it's not revealed when a player is placed on waivers....I think most teams will put quite a few of their players on waivers, and will end up pulling back nearly all (especially if you're contending).... I'm just surprised that it's August 9th, and we haven't heard any names getting blocked/passing through, and that goes back to my original questions of how long will it take for a player to get through waivers, and when is a player originally put on waivers ...

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 01:11 PM) Rafeal Palmeiro is a lying, cheating bastard there is absolutely no way in hell I ever want him anywhere near the White Sox. I hope he never plays in the big leagues again, baseball would be better off. I agree with you, but there is so much speculation around here about adding another bat...He could be available, I don't want him, but others may disagree.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/3875540 Personally, I don't want to root for somebody like him, or do anything to mess with the chemistry of the team (add a media circus that would be distracting), but I thought I'd throw it out there.

Hopefully Mike North won't make the decision as he does seem to have great pull there... John Rooney does a great job. Not bringing him back would be foolish...

QUOTE(HSC's Biggest Fan @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 11:14 AM) Ok this may be the wrong place and if addressed somewhere I aplolgize but the following sources have stated over the past week that Rowand would be displaced by Griffey should he be brought in. Harrelson and DJ in response to an e-mail Bruce Levine Some nit wit from Sporting News Radio on the CLTV Round Table Sunday night ESPN dolts Many folks on this site. Should by some miracle of god we did get him he would fill the role Everett had when Thomas was here and Everett would fill the role Thomas had when Thomas was here with less at-bats then Frank. The OF'ers need a day off here or there and Timo is an embarrassment. Another injury and we are done, we will not play above .400 ball and out pitchers will be toast from the stress of having to throw a shut out everyday. In the game last night they talked of how NY was going to get him. If the cash is right they will get him. Although I did hear on the cub radio braodcast, first insightful thing ever, that the Reds were about to be sold and they did not want to risk the devaluation of the franchise by giving up Griffey. This may be who we are fighting for and why if the Yanks will eat the $$$ the will get him. I actually think Pods is an ideal DH as he can play everyday and run without tiring. This team is looking tired offensivly and there is nowhere to turn. Where is Pablo OZuna, I thought he was a fine spark but we haven't seen him in weeks again. Assuming that Rowand isn't part of a trade (I highly doubt that) -isn't it fair to assume that Ozzie would do what he's done all season - get all 3 of his OF's rest, and basically rotate them. So, Rowand may still be the primary CF, but Griffey would occasionally play there as well to give Rowand time off.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 09:08 AM) I think they will make a decision before the Sep 1st midnight deadline. If they can't get a bat to fill Frank's spot they will certainly bring someone up before that deadline to make him eligible for the post-season roster. We keep hearing Griffey Jr. to the White Sox as a possibility. Who else (veteran hitter specifically, maybe another pitcher) has at a chance to sneak through waivers ? Recently, I've heard Dmitri Young's name - I wouldn't be upset with him either, but has any other names come up (Please don't start throwing out names like Adam Dunn)...I guess I'm looking for the Larry Walker of this season.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 10:02 AM) The other thing about Griffey Jr is that HE must accept a trade to the team claiming him off waivers. Even if the Reds don't pull him off of waivers, Griffey Jr can still refuse a trade & remain with the Reds. Now I know the White Sox were mentioned as not being on his short-list but it was also rumored he did agree to be traded to them earlier. So hopefully while KGJ is in town this week Kenny has the welcome wagon out. As for a NL team passing him up I wouldn't be too sure about that. If you're the Padres you can pick him up now & still have the option of trading him in the off-season to an AL team. Because of KGJ's stature that option is pretty much always there for a team seeking to get out from under his contract. When are we going to start hearing who has cleared waivers ? For example, when was Griffey put on waivers, and how long would it take for him to get through?

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 01:05 PM) I don't think so either. Also, wouldn't their payroll be around 300 million or close to it if they were to pick him up? I think the Yankees are right about $210, and GM Brian Cashman had basically said the Yankees are maxed out for what they could spend. Saying that, I wouldn't be shocked if George Steinbrenner picked up extra salary for the rest of the year, knowing that Bernie Williams wouldn't be back next season.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 12:34 PM) I don't think the Yankess would spend the $60 million or so. I really don't You could be right, but they won't be paying Bernie Williams next season.

QUOTE(wsox08 @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 01:26 PM) Yeah, why don't we get Boone and drop Iguchi? I'm sure that's what he was suggesting.... Boone is done, IMO - Minnesota gave him a 2nd chance, and it didn't work out there....Maybe he should try pitching for the Yankees.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 11:48 AM) 1)Dunn would get blocked by the first team in the waiver process. 2)If you think Griffey costs alot, then Dunn is going to give you a heartattack in what he's going to cost. 3)Dunn K's too much. That's the reason we want Griffey. We don't want inning ending K's. Griffey is a guy who could move guys over. Dunn is a better version of PK I suppose. I'd take Griffey over that anyday. We're not going to get a chance at a young player, not making a ton of money yet, like Adam Dunn. I agree that the price of Dunn will cost a lot more because he's younger/making less money, allowing the Reds to get a package without having to worry about getting less back because a team is taking on money (like would happen in a Griffey deal). If he's healthy, Griffey would fit in perfectly...I don't think the Yankees will let Griffey through either, but that's the type of player - aging with a lot of money left - who could get through.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Aug 5, 2005 -> 05:46 AM) Here are two other names of guys who'd have a pretty easy time getting through waivers, due to their contracts in '06: Ray Durham and Raul Ibanez I bet SF would pick up more than half of Ray's 2006 $7 mill salary. Putting him at Dh and giving Iguchi some time off at 2b wouldn't be the worst thing to get Ray's avg. and OBP in the lineup Ibanez would probably clear waivers, as he's basically a DH at this point. The Yanks and Boston wouldn't need him. Without the big power, Sea. having Ibanez at DH at $4.42 mill in '06 would seem to be excessive. Though on the sox, his avg. OBP and doubles would be a great fit. Esp as his hits RHP very well. SF might be relunctant to trade anybody since they want to be a contender with a healthy Bonds....We'll have to see on that one, but I wouldn't rule it out. Ibanez sounds like a decent fit. He's quietly having a nice season, and isn't overly expensive. Does he play the field at all anymore ?

QUOTE(3E8 @ Aug 5, 2005 -> 11:36 AM) Gooch has a daughter, so good possibility he is married. Never seen Lisa Crede though, and she intrigues me. I bet Joe can pull some good talent. This thread is useless without pictures!