Steff

:headshake Idiot teacher. http://www.whas11.com/sharedcontent/VideoP...=49293&catId=49

Whatever car you decide on, and if you're going new, wait till March. Big incentives as they try to unload the rest of the '05's.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 6, 2006 -> 02:52 PM) Ahhhh, they have torn down alot of the worst areas, and the film seems to capture the worst aspects of it. Areas are changing around chicago, and I no longer see that area as extremely dangerous. For example, Lincoln Park several years ago was just about one of the worst areas in the city. Now its a yuppie haven. So true. And Kid, I'm thankful as well. I just miss the point of making a movie about it. And it seems they did it in a glamorizing way. Although, it is just a trailer at this point. Maybe the finished product will be more informative and show the negatives. The kid holding the gun was especially disturbing.

Am I the only one missing the point of putting this out there..? http://www.gangstacity.net/

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Feb 6, 2006 -> 11:34 AM) this would be great if ths works and looks sort of natural. I know it will likely be abused by vein people, but it would be a miracle for people who were scarred in car accidents or by fires. Seems it's a success. Anything is better then what she looked like after the mauling.

Just got done watching it... unreal how some of those asshole who are REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS are out just doing their thing. One guy was a CONVICTED RAPIST.. how cool, eh? Why is he NOT behind bars...? And the school teacher.. back to work 2 days after (though he was suspended and cert revoked eventually). Simply amazing. :headshake

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 10:35 PM) Holy crap - "It says Chicago-area traffic tie-ups cause millions of hours of delay and cost trucking companies more than $223 million a year." And from working in the industry, I would say that's a low estimate...

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 05:31 PM) Going to Crestwood's mall, eh? No.. if I wanted to go there I would have gone south on Pulaski. Going west on 127th to Cicero was to get to 294 North to get to work.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 04:49 PM) Backing very slowly out of this thread.... No s***. Let the PUSSIES and DICKS sort this one out. :headshake

http://www.funwithmovies.com/ I got 19 right.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 04:30 PM) Chicago area commuting is even worse when you factor in the absurd number of railroad crossings. Atleast on the Southside it is. Suppose it's the price you pay for being the central hub of all railway traffic. I recall an article where 3 or 4 of the top five delays due to freight line interference occured around Chicago. Blue Island's two tracks on 127th, near Eisenhower High School, were rated the worst in the nation. I used to live in the 127th and Pulaski area.. never failed.. I always got caught at those damn tracks going west on 127th towards Cicero. Right now we have a freighter that crosses just east of 59 and 126 in Plainfield. Usually not too long, but God help you if you do get caught by the long one... I swear it's 25 to 30 minutes..

Can't a point be made without the offensive sterotypes, and the vulgar language? Where's that mod message...??

For those interested.. tonight is the 3rd installment of a series they call the "Peodphile alert". The format is like an undercover sting operation. The previous ones have been very informative.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 02:29 PM) You got that right sista. Althought it really just moved the traffic down a little bit. Its still better. It wouldn't be so bad if not for the stupid left side on and off ramps..

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 02:30 PM) where Interstates 90/94 and 290 meet -- is ranked fourth-worst in the nation. i believe it that is almost always backed up Almost.... when is it not..? It's even backed up on Sunday mornings!

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 02:26 PM) The strangler isnt on that list huh? It used to be. As bad as it still is.. it's 1000000 times better then it was.

QUOTE(mreye @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 01:31 PM) Those are Old School? You Can't Do That on Television! Yeesss! And DD.

http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mo...&pmmsid=1461210 Thief is caught on tape preying on a 5-year-old girl.

QUOTE(Spiff @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 11:07 AM) I love this "what if they had hurt someone?" crap. If they hurt someone then they would be convicted of that crime, just like any other situation ever. But they didn't, and you can't hang them for what might have happened. You deal with what did happen. Yes, alcohol can get people killed, so can alot of things. Too much cough medicine can get people killed. The drinking age is 21 because when Nancy Dole was secretary of transportation she wouldn't give the states funding for highways unless they went along with her. That's IT. It's f***ing stupid, and people who defend it have no f***ing clue. Which is what the judge did. He gave them a slap on the hand.. they agreed to probation, violated it, and then paid the price. So what's your solution..? No drinking age..? 18..? So we can have Natalie Holloway cases all over the US..? The links I provided above prove that not even 21 seems to be high enough. Even if the legal age was 18 idiots still get drunk and die or kill others. JMO.. but if it was legal under 21 the crashes and deaths would increase greatly.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 10:51 AM) You cant play what ifs in this situation. We drank at our after prom party, and we stayed at a place where there was no driving, with adults nearby in case of emergency. Nobody got hurt, and everyone had a great time. Were we still wrong? Slightly different situation. You were RESPONSIBLE. You didn't show up to the prom s***faced. Yes.. you were still wrong.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 10:49 AM) Steff good facts and links. Def good research. But alot of those points as well are from skewed statistics. Of course alcohol plays a part in many bad deeds that are committed, as well as many injuries. But you have to consider the type of person that was drinking in that situation. There is alot of factors that contribute to many of those examples, and being that they were mostly taking off of a anti-alcohol site, you have to consider the source of the research. Research is always going to be skewed.. mainly because it doesn't apply specifically. I'm assuming Spiff isn't irresponsible. My point wasn't to say the he, or most of the under 21 posters here, are.. but to say that many others are. On the point of the type of person... let's look at the kids in the situation that started this... straight A honor students. The type you'd think would be so stupid...? Yes, they were taken from an anti-alcohol site. But the facts are the facts. There were that many crashes and deaths by those in that age group. Those don't change no matter where the stats come from. Sadly...

Yikes.. never would have guessed this one. http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle....&archived=False Heather Locklear files for divorce in LA Thu Feb 2, 2006 7:32 PM ET LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Television "femme fatale" Heather Locklear, star of such series as "Dynasty" and 'Melrose Place," has filed for divorce from her rock star husband of 11 years, Bon Jovi guitarist Richie Sambora, her spokeswoman said on Thursday. "This is a private matter and there will be no further comment at this time," spokeswoman Cece Yorke said. According to court papers obtained by celebrity news Web site www.TMZ.Com, Locklear is seeking a divorce based on irreconcilable differences. Locklear, 44, and Sambora, 46, have an 8-year-old daughter, Ava. Locklear was previously married to another rock star, Tommy Lee. Their seven-year marriage ended in 1993. News of the split was first reported by People Magazine on its Web site.

I have to admit.. I don't quite understand the the drinking age limit all the time. Some may be ready to handle the responsibility earlier.. and then there are the morons that are never ready. But there's got to be a bar set... and that's where they set it. It's not like everyone doesn't know this... So it all comes down to if you want to play... be sure you have enough $$ in the bank to cash the check you're writing.

QUOTE(mreye @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 08:37 AM) I was there. I was just in the Bullpen Bar seating. I thought you didn't make it due to something with the kids..??? My bad..

QUOTE(Spiff @ Feb 3, 2006 -> 02:54 AM) Yeah, well they didn't hurt anyone. You don't punish people for crimes they could possibly commit. As it was they didn't hurt anyone. Victimless crime; and if you want to relate it to "yourself", how would you like it if you were drinking underage, didn't hurt anyone, and you still got 2 weeks in jail? Back in the day when the Indiana dunes were the place to go after prom several of my friends DID get arrested for underage drinking, DID get 24 hours in the pokey, and it DID deter most of them from being idiots by drinking and acting like assholes in public. ALL of them were banned from graduation ceremonies. Zero tolerance. We ALL signed an agreement stating that if we were caught drinking that's what would happen. A few of them DIDN'T get the hint and two of them died from alcohol poisening, and another by playing chicken on Southwest Hwy. I drank underage, you bet. But had I gotten caught you bet my ass would have not been stupid enough to slap in the face the person that slapped me on the wrist when he could have made life a lot worse for me. Although back then I doubt I would have gotten a slap on the wrist, like these kids did. And if you want to use that argument at least keep in mind that they were NOT put in jail for drinking.. they were put in jail for VIOLATING a probation agreement THEY AGREED TO. They got lucky no one got hurt - thank God. The law is 21 because MANY teenagers are IRRESPONSIBLE when it comes to alcohol http://camy.org/factsheets/index.php?FactsheetID=7 • Three teens are killed each day when they drink alcohol and drive.1 At least six more die every day from other alcohol-related causes.2 • According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 6,002 young people ages 16-20 died in motor vehicle crashes in 2003. Alcohol was involved in 38% of these deaths.3 • In 2003, 3,571 young drivers ages 16-20 died in motor vehicle crashes. Of these, 1,131 - approximately 32% - had been drinking, and 26% were legally drunk at the time of the crash.4 • A survey of college students in 2001 revealed that, for students under age 21, 26% drove after drinking alcohol, more than 10% drove after consuming more than five drinks, and almost a quarter rode with a high or drunk driver at least once in the 30 days before the survey.5 • In the year 2000, only 7% of licensed drivers were ages 15 to 20. However, in that same year, they represented approximately 13% of drivers who had been drinking and were involved in fatal crashes.6 Alcohol Dependence: • Americans who began drinking before the age of 15 are four times more likely to develop alcohol dependence than those who wait until the age of 21.7 • In November 2004, the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA) concluded that alcohol abuse and dependence are "developmental disorders."8 • An analysis published in the November 15, 2004 issue of Biological Psychiatry stated that the onset of alcohol dependence peaks by 18 years of age.9 Risky Sexual Behavior: • It is estimated that teenage girls who binge drink are up to 63% more likely to become teen mothers.10 • In a poll of more than 11,700 college students from 128 colleges in the United States, researchers found that, compared to those who waited to drink until they were 19 or older, college students who got drunk for the first time before age 13 were twice as likely to say they had had unplanned sex because of drinking. They were more than twice as likely to say they had had unprotected sex because of drinking.11 • In a study conducted by the Kaiser Family Foundation, 23% (5.6 million) of sexually active teens and young adults ages 15-24 in the United States reported having had unprotected sex because they were drinking or using drugs at the time. Twenty-four percent of teens ages 15-17 said that their alcohol and drug use led them to do more sexually than they had planned.12 Health Consequences: • The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that 4,554 underage deaths each year are due to excessive alcohol use.13 • Alcohol use plays a substantial role in all three leading causes of death among youth - unintentional injuries (including motor vehicle fatalities and drownings), suicides and homicides.14 • Those who begin drinking before the age of 14 are five times more likely than those who begin drinking after the age of 21 to be injured while under the influence of alcohol at some point during their lives.15 • Among young people, binge drinkers and heavy drinkers are more than twice as likely as non-drinkers to report having attempted to injure themselves or having contemplated or attempted to commit suicide.16,17 • Research has also shown another specific link between heavy alcohol use and youth suicides. States that passed "zero tolerance" laws to reduce youth drinking-driving also experienced statistically significant reductions in suicide deaths among 15- to 20-year-olds, compared to states that did not pass such laws.18 • There is growing evidence to suggest that alcohol use prior to age 21 impairs crucial aspects of youthful brain development. In one recent study, heavy-drinking adolescents who had been sober for three weeks still scored 10 percent lower than non-drinking peers on tests requiring verbal and nonverbal recall and skills needed for map reading, geometry, and science.19 Social Consequences: • The costs of youth drinking are an estimated $53 billion annually, and include costs to society such as medical care costs and lost productivity, as well as costs to the young drinker such as pain and suffering and loss of income.20 • A study that followed over 6,500 individuals found that, by the age of 23, those who were drinkers by seventh grade were: - more likely than non-drinkers to have "missed work for no good reason," - more likely to be substance-users, - more likely to engage in criminal and violent behavior, and - between 1.7 and 2.3 times more likely to be weekly or binge drinkers, exhibit signs of alcohol dependence, and experience multiple alcohol problems.21 Updated July 2005