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QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 26, 2007 -> 06:40 PM) Please, never say that phrase again. It's the mating call of the baseball retarded. Hey! I love that little audio snippet on the '05 DVD. Retarded? No. Sox-tarded? Yes. I'm just pointing out it's a bit premature to be writing off the entire season before it's even BEGUN...

I think CanofCorn is right on. We really have no idea how this team is going to pan out. We were picked to come in third--or worse--in '05 and we won the WS. Last year we were picked not only to win the division, but to repeat, and we came in... third. I'm all for underpromising and overdelivering. Truth be told, I like the idea that nobody's paying attention to us or afraid of us--just the way I like it. Then the players can worry about playing ball and not eyeballing their charge to win the ring again. C'mon! It's a White Sox tradition, being underdogs. Winning ugly. Remember how, first half in '05, we were being compared to the hitless wonders? Loved it. I'm seeing the glass half-full here, people. Step off the ledge already. We can all slit our wrists in July if we're six or more behind in the division. I'd prefer to put that off as long as possible.

My point is that you can get injured playing any position in MLB. If he had been injured catching nobody would be saying anything. Vandy up above just about covers it. I just happen to disagree with you. I'm not that outraged. Just bummed. He's gone, nothing's gonna change that. Personally I don't think that's gonna sink our season, but there are way too many people here already on the ledge.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 26, 2007 -> 04:25 PM) Then no one would be blaiming Ozzie but what the hell does that have to do with anything? I don't see where the 'what ifs' play into this situation. What if Dye were playing 1B and tore his ACL forcing him to miss the entire season? My point is that the plan was to use him at 1B this season as well, so it was obviously not that "out there" to have him playing 1B in a ST game. Both he and Ozzie liked the arrangement. I think you'd have more of an argument if you asked what was he doing in that late in a game in which we were being blown out, but anybody can get hurt anytime playing baseball. I don't think it was something egregiously obvious like leaving in a pitcher for 130 pitches or asking the DH to play center. I think when shockers like this happen we want to make sense of them and the easiest way to do that is blame Ozzie. Hey, didn't AJ's Cub rival who punched him take one in the jewels behind the plate last year, ending his season? He was playing his position.

Sorry but I agree. Suppose he was behind the plate and a bat hit him? Or he got bowled over? And on and on and on... It was a freak injury. That dive looked harmless. He just landed wrong. I think that we're indulging in a bit of hindsight being 20/20 obviously...

I think everybody needs to step off the ledge already. It's our BACKUP catcher. If we're going to lose 2007, we're going do it the time-honored Sox way: with our starters blowing it for us, before any bench rat has a chance to! I mean c'mon, this is a Sox tradition!

Um, has anybody confirmed this besides hearing about it on a radio show?

Yeah I think the point of the article was more than velocity is needed. But LOL at the rules of those no-brainer guys...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/preview07/co...&id=2809709 Interesting stuff. I thought Jenks hit triple digits more than he did. Although he has that nasty curveball to use too. Zumaya, though: what a monster.

FWIW, from whitesox.com "If you don't want to get hurt in baseball, I'll be sitting with you in the pressbox," said Guillen, who mentioned getting Hall at-bats and a little work at first base was discussed during the morning staff meeting. "The only way to keep him sharp is to play him every other day and find him some at-bats." "I love it over there," added Hall, who listed Sunday's injury as a subluxation, or partial dislocation, of his right shoulder. "I was anticipating a play like that anyways. I happened to land wrong."

Is the Widgenator available?

Me too. I always get there in time for this.

Jesus! Wow. Man, that play did not look at all that serious. I was more worried about Uribe's spill in the OF. This sucks!

Yeah I was there in '05 and the weather wasn't bad at all. And Buehrle threw another two-hour gem. Wasn't there last year but watched it on TV. Way past bedtime as you recall.

Is this away games or total? For me (total games): 2004: about 10 2005: 40 2006: 18 2007: 30 sounds about right

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 26, 2007 -> 11:47 AM) I really think you are on to something. If you add the aquisition of tons of young pitching, combined with the Sox not talking to their potential FAs, and the KW trademark of trying to make the big splash, along with Kenny trying to get Alex on at least two different occasions, I think there is fire here. It just makes too much sense. Oh hell yeah I'd get out the checkbook for Ichiro, NO PROBLEM. THAT idea I love.

ONE WEEK! One week to the smell of grilled onions! One week to "Thunderstruck" and the opening video! One week to being surrounded by thousands of black, gray and white-wearing fanatics! One week to the unofficial end of winter! Then I checked the extended forecast. It's 78 today. On Opening Day they're saying... 48. But hey: it wouldn't be opening day if the weather wasn't crap now would it? At least the game won't go until about 2AM in the morning this time... And after next Monday, baseball season is ON, BABY! Enough of this ST doom n' gloom. Soon we'll be at The Cell, where we can... at least order a Polish in between our complaining...

Thomas? Big Frank could get injured playing foosball. C'mon!

Sorry guys I'm no Ozzie apologist but this was a freak injury. At first it looked like a great play by Hall, in fact. When do you ever see a guy getting hurt playing first base? He'll be okay. Man, people are awfully cranky this year about this team, and the season's not even begun. Usually you don't hear this kind of stuff until... the second week of the season, ZING!

Didn't I hear murmurs somewhere here or elsewhere that A-Rod would want no part of playing for Ozzie? I'm unclear what hole A-Rod fills by coming here, although granted offensively he is excellent. I always thought he was a natural obvious choice for the Cubs, honestly.

But this still means we have him if we need him, right?

In all seriousness I have no idea how we will turn out this year. In '05 I had a hunch we'd be good but didn't expect THAT. In '06 we were told we were better than '05 but we came in third. This year, who knows? The possible silver lining here is I'd rather suck in ST than second half of the season. Let everyone flail now and get it out of their system, none of this counts anyway. How's that for optimism? One of KW's mantras over and over in '05 was: just win the division. Worry about everything else as it comes. So let's just keep our goals modest and see how it pans out. That's why I chafe when Hawk starts talking about another ring, etc. Forget that. Let's just win the division, one game at a time.

I agree with John about the Tigers and how they stumbled in the last months AND... I personally believe our guys were fatigued from being in the WS so why wouldn't that be the case with them? Unless you're a team who's always making the playoffs, which neither we nor the Tigers were. I'm more worried about Cleveland and as always Minnesota. People forget they were written off for dead last year and then came roaring back to take the division. The other thing that sometimes worries me is how K.C. sort of owned us last year. Even at their worst they're like a thorn in our side. Not that I think they're going anywhere.

I watched the whole game and never saw Buehrle top 86 but that could have been the gun. Granted, I've never seen him top 88 at the Cell so maybe it's not that big a deal.

Eesh I hope that's not serious.