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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 23, 2011 -> 06:23 PM) He has a 5.79 era. We should probably cut him. Why cut him? He's still young enough that his skin would make a really nice set of batting gloves. It would set an example for the rest of our prospects. EDIT: NOW I see what you meant by "cut" him. I retract my above statement, as we are clearly both on the same page.

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Mar 23, 2011 -> 06:25 PM) Unfortunately, it doesn't mean anything for ones that are having a good ST either. Ouch, my bubble

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Mar 23, 2011 -> 05:22 PM) Spring Training doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot for ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Spring training is in NO WAY indicitive of performance in April or the season at all. Except with Beckham?

Ahhh, some actual baseball! This will be refreshing

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 23, 2011 -> 04:08 PM) Milledge will bat without a helmet after May. And then put one on as he's coming home? That should make people happy, right?

Holy hell! It's duck-and-cover around here, huh? You'd our prediction thread would have looked different.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 23, 2011 -> 11:04 AM) Sox announce new organist. Move over, Adam Dunn, this is the best signing of the offseason!!

QUOTE (scenario @ Mar 23, 2011 -> 12:24 PM) Great thinking Jake. Push it as far as you can... But don't push it. It is what it is...

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 11:31 PM) You missed the point. I realize those were for the most part, I rather have brought back Putz or signed Scott Downs over Crain, and Ohman sucks, the best options for a team trying to win in 2011. The point is you can't blatantly ignore the farm for years, refuse to ever go over slot and never deal with the agent who represents the top talent yet want to have this strict policy in place. Peavy was damaged goods when we got him. That was the first sign. And like I said to Chicago White Sox, you can't have it both ways. Nothing wrong with not wanting to overpay in years/coin for FA pitchers. But damnit, stop trading away every decent pitching prospect we have, spend some money and draft better and you won't have to. Gio Gonzalez and Dan Hudson would look REALLY good right about now. How come we couldn't pony up for Tanner Scheppers over Josh Phegley in 2009 but we can overpay for mediocre relievers like Scott Linebrink and Jesse Crain and extend garbage like Mark Teahen in what is shaping up as KWs worst move ever? I don't know why you think they can't have it both ways when they have for 10 years now. One of the best 10 years in Sox history, record-wise, mind you. Clearly it is POSSIBLE to successfully walk that line. They may fail in the future due to the problems you've mentioned, but as of yet, they have not. None of that excuses -- or really has anything to do with -- other bad contracts.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 23, 2011 -> 01:26 AM) I'll try and find the article or quote, but Ozzie literally said prior to the game that he didn't want Peavy starting, but Peavy keep pleading to start, and Ozzie finally gave in. That sounds like Ozzie's problem to me. No pitcher worth his salt in the history of ever has willingly left a game or admitted he shouldn't start one (he said hyperbolically). They just bend to the manager's will because that's how the Chain o' Command works. Since when has Ozzie not owned his authority? Sounds fishy to me.

Do cut players stay at camp or do they have to go to minor league camp?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 06:37 PM) +1 billion. JR and Co. need to get off their damn high-horses when it comes to this stupid policy. You don't get to have a policy when you've got two starters about to become FAs, one who's agent you refuse to deal with, and your top pitching 'Spect is Addison Reed. KW has traded prospect after prospect after prospect over the last few years and the return has been one year of Nick Swisher, two months of a decrepit Ken Griffey Jr., Javy the sequel and Jake Prior. Instead of extending the Mark Teahen's of the world, handing out 3-4year deals to declining or mediocre relievers, overpaying for a 1B during his age 35-37 seasons because he gave you a world series baseball six years ago, spend some f***ing coin on some new scouts and the draft. I'm confused. If the Peavy deal were a signing rather than a trade, would you be okay with his contract? I mean, you're advocating dumping an enormous amount of cash and years into a pitcher, yet in other threads lambasting a contract where the pitcher is signed at big money but injured? Well, catastrophic injury is always a risk with pitchers, so you pretty much have to accept it if you want a big signing. I don't see how you can tenably ask for a huge contract pitcher and simultaneously condemn an expensive, injured pitcher. Your larger point about the poor drafting has been pretty much universally conceded, even by KW as far back as 2 years ago when they overhauled the scouting department. Since then, minor league contribution to the big club has increased dramatically.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 05:50 PM) One involves a few local reporters on a single team. The other got more debate than bombing Libya. Yeah, yeah, it's an analogy not a homology

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 06:19 PM) Really, no. It's like that in the sense that it's 1/1000th of it. I see some similarity in that nobody really knows what's going on, yet there is a new report every few minutes, all of it speculative.

The crazy variance in reporting is making my head spin. I give up. He pitches when he pitches, and he still has plenty of time to pitch well and remove the "bust" label people are hanging on him. If he pitches late and we go deep into the playoffs, he was officially a good signing. Just wait and see, I suppose.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 01:44 AM) Isolated Peavy's quotes. Sorry Peavy, but I'm calling bulls***. You didn't say anything until now. The only one that knows that you are hurting is you, plain and simple. Please stop trying to put the blame on Kenny/Ozzie/Coop. He's saying the right things about being smart, he's just not following his own words. Last time, he didn't say anything till his muscle snapped off. This time, his shoulder hurts and he told the staff. There was very little way for him to tell that his shoulder soreness after the Angels game was tendinitis until it didn't go away. It is my opinion that the crazy outpouring of wrath we're seeing is a direct result of the anxiety people have swallowed regarding Peavy's health. The moment a wrinkle showed itself, all those anxieties erupted. It's understandable, but it's far from rational. (not necessarily directed at Krush, just Sox fandom in general)

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 21, 2011 -> 07:59 PM) That's fine with me. I'll be the new devil of the board. I'm NOT being mean or whatever, but I don't give a s*** what Humber has done this spring or what he's added. He's hippos***. If this were the Cubs, we'd all be laughing. But since it's the Sox there's some kinda fake hope that he can be good. That won't work on me. If I turn out to be wrong, so be it. But the odds that I'm wrong are pretty low. Like really low. Not that you're necessarily wrong about the bolded, but that example doesn't exactly ooze rationality either. We all search for reasons to laugh at the Cubs. As usual, the truth is probably somewhere in between, i.e. the Humber signing is neutral. /pileon

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 20, 2011 -> 11:24 PM) I'm a man of my word. I promise you I'll do it. It's not worth it, J4L! I believe you'll do it, but don't!

As ridiculous as the panic on Soxtalk is, you should hear the Score. You'd think they just held a retirement press conference for Peavy.

QUOTE (StatManDu @ Mar 20, 2011 -> 11:53 AM) THE WELCOME MAT FOR THORNTON 2006: General managera Kenny Williams acquired underachieving left-handed pitcher Matt Thornton from Seattle for underachieving outfielder Joe Borchard. Seattle’s first-round pick in 1998, Thornton didn’t make it to the bigs until 2004. With the Mariners, the Three Rivers, Mich., native was 1-6 with a 4.82 ERA in 74 outings. With the Sox, Thornton has blossomed into an All-Star and will become the team's closer in 2011 after serving as a dominant setup man. Like he had with the Sox, Borchard was a disappointment with Seattle, lasting just six games. When the career synoposis of Williams is written, this move will have to be at or near the top of the list as his best. Perfect timing! So perfect, there are TWO Thorntons! I feel like maybe I need his jersey now... EDIT: Okay, now there's only one. Disappointment

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Mar 19, 2011 -> 06:19 PM) I think Jake is coming north unless the weather has something to say about it. Sure looks that way. If he's throwing 80+ pitches with decent velocity and no discomfort, then we gain nothing by leaving him behind.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 15, 2011 -> 06:09 PM) His contract is pretty bad. $10+ mill over the next two years for a bad offensive and defensive player. He has value as a left handed bat off the bench. At least Carlos Silva can (generally) give you 180 innings of better than replacement level pitching and Milton Bradley has been a monster offensively before. There really is no upside with Teahen at all. I do believe the Cubs are paying for >$11M for Silva this year and there's a decent chance he doesn't even make the team. If he could pitch out of the bullpen, he would be. He would be getting lights-out closer money for mop-up innings. There are other bench guys getting 4.5M. It's not a good contract, but it's a zit compared to the full-blown MRSA infection of Silva and Bradley.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 15, 2011 -> 09:19 AM) I'm guessing a deal for Teahen would look something like the Milton Bradley for Carlos Silva deal did last year... Why would we do that? You do that for clubhouse cancers or trading bad contracts at positions you don't need for contracts at positions you do need. Besides, he's not getting anywhere NEAR those guy's numbers; his contract isn't THAT bad

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Mar 14, 2011 -> 03:34 AM) http://twitter.com/TFlowers17 http://twitter.com/JesseCrain If you're not following yet.. go ahead, didn't feel like bumpin the twitter thread. Mods feel free to move. Way to rub it in, TFlow. At least Crain was sorry about it.

I'm going to shadow shoulder surgeries all this week; I'll see if I can get any information about this stuff from the surgeon.