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...Okay, so my brains is bad. Please, move forward without me.

I don't know why they didn't just put Trout on the list. Might as well ask, right?

QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 24, 2014 -> 09:59 PM) Yet, Yasiel Puig isn't? Haha I only got as far as Cespedes

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 24, 2014 -> 08:34 PM) Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 44s Breaking News: #WhiteSox pushing for the following players, are willing to offer Adam Dunn: Yonder Alonso Yuniesky Betancourt Francisley Bueno Yoenis Céspedes Aroldis Chapman José Contreras Yunel Escobar José Fernández Onelki García Yasmani Grandal Alexander Guerrero Adeiny Hechavarria José Iglesias Leonys Martín Yunesky Maya Kendrys Morales Brayan Peña Yasiel Puig Henry Urrutia Raúl Valdés Erisbel Arruebarruena ...April Fools?

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Mar 24, 2014 -> 07:59 PM) A lot of Nat fans were certain he'd be coming back. Well I guess they underestimated just how bad our catchers could be. Never underestimate the Sox.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 21, 2014 -> 03:32 PM) POST IT NOW SCOTTYDO GEEZ Haha sorry. Class subsumed my Soxtalk duties for a little bit there. Thankfully SoxPride picked me up.

Looks pretty close to the opening day lineup (kind of depends on Beckham's oblique)

I'm just glad they're finally adding a massive social media wall to the park. How else can fans access Twitter at the ballpark!? It's really what the consumers have been demanding. I foresee surpassing 2M fans this year.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 19, 2014 -> 02:35 PM) It's Adrian Nieto, either way, it most likely is no big deal. Probably not. But if there's not a deal between the Sox and Nats in the days leading up to the season, it would make sense that they have been unable to reach a consensus.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 19, 2014 -> 02:15 PM) I don't see the upside in hiding Nieto on the bench if he isn't ready to play at the top level.. So what if it means you get to keep him. Next year he would be a guy who has barely played above A ball with a wasted year at the major league level. Doesn't sound like a guy who you could say without sounding crazy is a breakout candidate. I still think the Sox work out some sort of deal for him, and put him in Birmingham where he belongs. Yeah, I think that's the best idea. But if the Nats aren't willing to play nice, demanding more than the Sox are willing to deliver, I can see the Sox keeping him on the roster as long as possible.

I don't know about the general consensus, but some of the more rational posters have always felt that Alexei is a decent player with decent value. You can't argue with the defense. It's just that he seemed like he might be a good offensive player for a while, and he just hasn't been. I have not noticed a lot of Alexei hatred around here, just disappointment.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Mar 18, 2014 -> 02:01 PM) He'll have even less time for that this year as according to Stone, they'll make an effort to talk about them there sabermathrics and other black magic/number voodoo. Although I suppose he can come up with his own metric to quantify umpire sucktitude. TWTSTWS: The Will To Screw The White Sox Wegner holds the all-time TWTSTWS single-game record. I wonder what he's doing...

Anybody seen more than one of Paulino's starts so far? I thought he looked terrible yesterday, despite results. He had no idea where that ball was going when it left his hand. Stuff was solid, though. Is this pretty much how it's been so far, or did I watch a particularly off performance?

QUOTE (Jake @ Mar 18, 2014 -> 06:24 AM) Micah Johnson has been doing a compelling impersonation of a major league ballplayer Yeah, I'm much more excited about him now than I was at the beginning of spring. Of course, Spring Training is often a mirage. But he's definitely exciting to watch, and I'm hoping he destroys AAA (he'll be there, right? or AA?) for a while so we can see him in Chicago towards the end of the year.

Paulino's pretty erratic, but got out of it anyway. Not much command there.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Mar 17, 2014 -> 04:50 PM) If I couldn't get anything for my junked car & was forced with the option of either sinking further resources into it or blowing it up and moving on, hell f***ing yeah I'd refrain from trying to pump it's value up through $$$ or in Dunn's case plate appearances, and I'd just move on. I'd blow it up myself assuming I could get away with it. Sometimes there are restrictions on things like explosives, like whether you can or can't own them, when and where you can detonate them, etc. Not gonna shop it to different junkyards and see if you can get >$0?

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Mar 17, 2014 -> 04:38 PM) If the exhaust system prevents me from passing the emissions testing and there money it would take to fix the problem is prohibitive given the worth of the car, and if the choice is to sell the piece of junk to the junkyards for X amount, or sell it to a pyromanic for a higher amount who just wants to blow the thing up, then yes, I could blow up a car for something related to a muffler issue. In your scenario, X=0

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2014 -> 02:51 PM) The fact is anyone who says Dunn has some value or is holding out hope he can build some, is basing it on how much money he is owed. If he were making $4-5 million, I doubt many would be arguing any post saying release him, and it is highly unlikely the White Sox get anything of value for him at the deadline even if he is productive. Look what Rios brought back. I think we all agree Adam Dunn sucks. But I bet I can get a jersey dirt cheap right now

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Mar 17, 2014 -> 02:35 PM) If his WAR is negative then the Sox should be willing to pay him $17M to play for the Tigers. Dunn's WAR depends on what position he plays. He won't be a negative WAR for all teams, particularly not a team that will use him more situationally than the Sox have. He's got a skill left intact, specifically pretty massive power, and that will provide positive value in many situations, lineups and parks. I don't know why you can't just admit that those of us who believe Dunn has a modicum of value are holding a reasonable position. Instead, you end up like the guy on the street corner raving about how everyone else is doomed because of their ignorance. Keep waving your cardboard sign, man. You'll convince the passersby one of these days!

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Mar 17, 2014 -> 01:59 PM) So let's say you play Dunn all the time & you end up saving $3M because of it. Really, I think that's a seriously generous amount but whatever. You spend half a season's worth of PA against RHP to get that & those come at the expense of DeAza and Viciedo. Maybe you have to take 50 cents on the dollar for one of those guys to make it happen, and you lose the ability to carry a true CF backup with it. Is that measly $3M savings worth taking a lesser return on a piece that could conceivably actually bring back something worthwhile? I'll answer for you since you can't do it correctly yourself: NO, it is not. What are the Sox giving to Belisario, something like $3.5M IIRC? What do they get for him at the deadline or over the offseason if he's pretty good? IMO they don't get nearly as much as they could get for DeAza if he's even decent, and it's far less of a return than they'd get out of Viciedo if he shows a pulse this season. And do the Sox REALLY need Belisario? No, they don't. Like Boggs and Paulino, he's someone who hopefully turns into something useful which you can then flip. Keeping Dunn to save a couple mil at the expense of a potentially larger & more meaningful return later is absolutely stupid. And I've said this a thousand times but you guys still don't get it: 1) The Chicago White Sox alone, and none of the other 29 teams in the league, are obligated to pay Adam Dunn $15M this year no matter what he does. 2) No other team wants to help subsidize Dunn's salary. 3) This all means that the money is gone, bye bye, it left in the form of a guaranteed contract over the 2011-12 offseason. You don't get any of that back UNLESS some team just decides they want to help you. And the only way that happens is if Dunn is good. And even if he is, do you REALLY want a couple mil savings? No, you want a prospect with a pulse. And looking at Dunn's Sox career, and looking at his age, and his swing, and the fact that by sitting vs. LHP he'll see even less live pitching (remember these games aren't played on paper and Dunn standing there in the box actually does not have the makeup of your prototypical platoon player), when factoring in all this, how likely is it that you get the return you are looking for? What are those odds? Compare those odds to those of DeAza improving his game & Viciedo also improving. The best odds say that you go with those 2 over Dunn, and you take the 4th OF candidate in Danks which allows you to keep your LFers comfortable in CF as you look to build their value. Assumption. All that follows is based on this assumption. If others disagree with your assumption, they are not stupid for disagreeing with the claims that follow.

There's no good answer to our C situation so this is pretty whatever to me. This is the most logical s****y choice available.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 16, 2014 -> 01:28 PM) Cleto looked pretty good last night. I believe he's out of options, so maybe they see what they can get out of him in April and send Webb and Petricka to Charlotte to start things off. Heck, if it means maximizing the talent on the team and liquidating it via trade, don't even bring a LOOGY north with us. Just take Cleto and hope to pump him up a little. Granted, it'll never happen. Veal is coming with. I'm just saying, I'd be totally fine if they forgot all about him if it optimizes tradeable assets.

QUOTE (Jake @ Mar 16, 2014 -> 11:09 PM) This is bad news for Sox fans. Iglesias is a bad baseball player and Detroit will almost certainly fill the position with somebody better Why wouldn't they have filled that position with someone better to begin with, then?

Aww, I was looking forward to seeing more of Sanchez. I'm enjoying watching the MI's this ST.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Mar 14, 2014 -> 11:00 AM) My argument is we're not getting enough for him to make it worth holding onto him. And no, I don't believe we'd get as good a deal for Dunn as the Cubs did for Soriano, but the better the deal the happier I'd be. I'd absolutely settle for someone taking him on at $1M for an INTL bonus slot and the equivalent of another team's Storm Throne or Tony Bucciferro. If you actually pull your head out enough to think for a second, and view Dunn with his age and on his slide compared to Viciedo and DeAza at their ages and team control, chances are even a plummeting DV or ADA brings back more at the deadline than the best Dunn we've seen here on the Sox, and it's absolutely certain that a quality year from either ADA or DV brings back something to potentially get excited about or at least look forward to. The idea of dumping a better asset because you're too f***ing stubborn and dumb to cut your losses should be torn apart by any board of knowledgeable sports fans. And there should be no reason to have to explain why. (something posted on twitter) (pic of something) (agreement with wite/shoutout to wite) (something else on twitter)