southsider2k5

Nah. You can see he understands the game. I think he is still in a stage where he is trying to impress people and make an impression on fans. I don't think it is because he isn't a smart baseball player. He just needs to understand he can't take advantage of MLB players the way he did NCAA ones. I think he could have learned some of those lessons in the minors if he had more ABs and situations to learn them in. He FLEW through the minors. He will figure it out quickly.

If you really want to pull some SSS, those two homers gave him 48 ABs this year against righties and pushed him up to 119 OPS+, against lefties this year it is 223 which is ridiculously unsustainable. Last year he was exactly an average hitter against RHP with an OPS+ of 100 and 125 against lefties. For his career he is 85 OPS+ against RHP, and 138 against LHP. McCann screams platoon hitter.

This has to be just for a reaction.

Even in his all-star year of 2019 he gave us 2.3 fWAR in 118 games. There is no chance he is going to put up twice as much WAR in half of the games. This isn't Mike Trout we are talking about here. I get he has been really good in a SSS this year, but he is playing almost only in ideal match ups this year. You can't just take his 1.1 war in 20 games and multiply it by 8 to get a full season number. Those numbers take a hit if he starts facing a lot more RHP, not to mention as a DH he doesn't have the same impact on the game as he does behind the plate. When he signed in 2018, I never thought the day that people would be expecting Mike Trout numbers out of James McCann, but here we are.

This is way too premature in a SSS.

There is zero chance the Sox will spent that kind of money on James McCann as a half time starter, when they have other much more significant holes on the roster which will result in WAY more impact on the W/L of this team. It would be almost negligent of the front office to do so.

I mean I think 100% of Soxtalk would like James McCann back and is super impressed with how he has played. But at the same time, not being aware of the impact of resigning him would have on the rest of the roster is an exercise in futility. The roster numbers, plus McCann needing to be a starting catcher somewhere just don't add up to his being with the White Sox next year.

So you are going to pay James McCann somewhere around $18 million for 100 games next year?

But only for the hitters apparently.

Its also worth noting that without even looking at arb raises, options, exercises, and free agents, the Sox have ~18 million dollars in raises to pay next year going to players who are signed through at least 21. They have about another 2 million in options that they would owe if they declined all of them. So while people are talking about having $45 million in salary not coming back next year around ~$20 million of that is already spent just in owed raises and declined options, without replacing a single player. If we were to QO McCann that is about a $13 million raise just going to him, which would leave something like $12-ish million out of that $45 million in savings to spend to fill RF, SP, any RP positions and replacing guys like Leury, Cishek, etc. You have to look deeper than just what is coming off of the books next year.

Your math doesn't really work once you consider that Abreu is going to play at least 150 games next year if he is healthy, as he always does. The team will not leave Abreu on the bench for 30 to 50 games in favor of James McCann, nor should they.

Except isn't all of the depth of the organization. It is their top prospects and their 40 man roster guys for the most part. I am sure the 4th and 5th guys on an AA roster are worse than the guys we are seeing on a daily basis in these camps.

Who would these guys be hitting HRs against in AA? Clayton Kershaw?

A QO for McCann probably means the team goes cheap somewhere else as they would have roughly $35 million tied up in just the catching position next year. Is McCann worth not getting another decent to good starting pitcher? Is it worth having Mazara in RF again in 21? Is it worth blocking Andrew Vaughn for another year? Because that is what this would mean.

It has been said in more than one broadcast that Eloy actually measures with plus speed, so that is not the problem. His problem 100% is his reads.

Yeah, this is kind of the point of 99.9 and not 100%. There is a slightly greater than zero chance of a collapse and a simulateous amount of just good enough play from another 3rd place team to pass the Sox. Baltimore is 6.5 back of the Sox or Detroit is 7 back and the "most likely". The odds are awful of that happening, but not zero. 3-14 by the Sox and 11-7 by Baltimore puts them ahead of us.

You don't think a team is going to pay him 2 million dollars next year... I hate to break it to you, but you are the one who isn't dealing in reality.

Right, but another team isn't going to value that at 2 million dollars a year? Ridiculous.

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it doesn't need another thread. There are 50 others to choose from.

More accurately a non-tender.

RR said he wasn't going to start on Saturday a few days ago when they put him back on the active roster. This shouldn't be a surprise.