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That is a pretty narrow window of ideal for my taste. I think a move like this diversifies our portfolio of prospects better, it balances out our system better, including more playing time for the OFs we have that are 5 deep in a couple of teams, and it puts us with a better chance of success the future by covering more potential positions in the future, versus less by hoarding. I mean the 3B depth right now is basically saying we are going to HAVE to put 9 figures into a 3B to get a decent one. If you can trade an OF and find a 3B of the future, that dynamic changes by a measurable amount and the odds of that happening go down by some amount.

Also valid.

So who are you 100% confident that can play 3B for us in 2021?

But you are 100% confident that Rutherford will be a starting CF in 2021?

Is Luis Robert dead in this scenario?

"Why hasn't anyone fired that general yet?" "When are they going to call up B Company?" "If only they had gotten rid of C Platoon when they got the chance?" "Why have a nuclear bomb if they aren't going to use it on the battlefield?" "Excuse me Drill Sergent, what are your qualifications, exactly?"

Mark Salas was a catcher.

I see late 2019 to 2020 to be the time of the turn around, but probably not divisional winning. By then you will have Giolito, Lopez, Moncada, Kopech and Jimenez on your 25 roster almost for sure (barring crazy regression or injury), By late 2019 You should also be to the stage where Dylan Cease and Dane Dunning are getting to Chicago (or really close to it), as well as guys like Burdi, Hamilton, and Burr in the back of the pen. So at that point your pitching staff should largely be getting into place with the new faces. Less certain, but very possible is seeing someone like Seby Zavala, Alec Hansen, Tyler Johnson, and or a Jordan Stephens. The position players are going to start hitting in more waves into the 2020 to 2021 range. Currently sitting at Birmingham you have the guys like Basabe and Collins, who could see Chicago at the end of 2019, but more realistically 2020. The guys currently at High A are much heavier in terms of talent, and are probably in the late 2020 to 2021 crowd. That is where you get into Robert, Rutherford, Luis Gonzalez, Micker, and Madrigal currently. I get the feeling that Robert, Gonzalez, and Madrigal could do a quicker move, with the more raw guys taking a bit longer. The Kannapolis team has a crowd of guys behind them that will factor more into the 2021 to 22 crowd. That is a long way of saying that if you actually sketch it out on paper, it is still going to be a while if you have reasonable expectations for players.

Hopefully this hitting isn't just a fluke, but more than anything I would love to see his defensive game grow and mature, even if his hitting isn't sustained.

Well and for it to be accurate he would need to run the experiment in many different locations to validate the results. What is your address again?

I just hit my five year mark, and now I am up to 20 days a year, plus 7 sick/personal days.

Only one of those three teams has been through an actual rebuild. it is much easier to break a young player in when you have superstar players around them.

And we have descended to "you people"...

Wait, guys had trouble learning at the major league level during a rebuild? That can't be right. Soxtalk has told me that guys come up and are either stars or busts.

Chris Getz learned his trait with the Royals. Our draft head came from the Braves.

Looking at the MLB top 100 prospects, Senzel is ranked #4. Eloy is ranked #3. Anyone willing to make that trade?

Your point is narrow. It isn't pulling in the big picture that those contracts are literally what allowed the Sox to shift gears and push the rebuild into high gear on the fly. Without those deals the Sox are probably still in some stage of "going for it" If you feel crappy about this rebuild, how would you feel about the rebuild if the Sox were missing their #1, #2, #5, #7, #10, and #11 prospects, + 2 starting pitchers and their starting 2B?

That is way too narrow. Contracts are a vital part of the management of a baseball team. Good contracts are huge assets to teams. Bad contracts can haunt a team for years and hamper their moves. Accountability doesn't only come in when you want it to. Those contracts allowed the Sox to pour vital assets to this rebuild into the system so that we weren't starting from scratch like other teams are. This entire post is built on an emotional response and not subjective at all.

You really didn't read the article did you? If you had, you would have noticed that all of the "support" I need is right there in it. The article ranks the Sox fan base as 29th overall, 28th in terms of engagement, 18th in terms of potential (18th of 30? huh, that almost sounds in the middle, doesn't it?) and 28th in terms of road support. Even at their peak after the World Series championship when the bandwagon was full of fans like yourself, the Sox were never in the attendance or revenue categories of the true large market teams. All of those numbers support exactly what I have been saying forever is that the Sox have a mid-sized fan base that is largely a bandwagon one who doesn't show up for long periods of time when the team isn't leading the pack, unlike true large market teams which have real fan support no matter what. The fact is there isn't a single metric other than anecdotal speakings that support what you are saying, while every single measurable fact from multiple generations worth of data falls in my camp.

Not have as frustrating as it must be for you to have such an active lack of ability to understand a simple chart or basic literacy.

This is the same group that drafted and signed Sale when scouts were saying he was a reliever, then turned him into one of the best starters in baseball. Not to mention the extension they got him to sign. Quintana was signed as a MiLB free agent and turned into an excellent starter, signed to a cheap extension and then sold off for the price of a front line starter at his absolute peak value. Or are those things not part of accountability? Are you just ignoring them?

Look around pro sports. Plenty of guys didn't play their sports.

Out of every single player in our rebuild group Eloy is the one who could be ready from Day 1.

What is up with all of the insecurity on Soxtalk lately? People even have to get into personal backgrounds now? Cripes.

Unless you actually look at his figures, but that's OK. I am used to you ignoring half of the story.