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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 02:53 PM) The first big contract is usually the only big contract for these players. While I realize it's multi-generational wealth, they still will never find a similar job for the following 30+ years of their life, so they might as well maximize it. It's also a guaranteed contract. In your situation, you are happy now, but in a year there might be another offer somewhere that makes you happier and you can leave. These players can't, so that's why they getting the most money at once is a bigger deal. For some players, being a in a place they like is more important than extra millions.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 02:49 PM) This seems like the appropriate thread to ask this: Why isn't Hansen in AA yet? What more could be possibly have left to prove at W-S? The Sox have really pumped the breaks on pushing prospects through the system in general in the past year.

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QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 02:10 PM) I can safely assume neither one of us have ever been in that situation when deciding how many millions are considered "marginal", so I'm not ready to proclaim that as fact. Diminishing marginal returns would.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 01:43 PM) Davidson, Leury, Liriano (not on 40 man), Hanson, Ynoa (not on 40 man), Farquhar and Yolmer are currently out of options. But my guess is list will at least double next season. The other side is the group that needs to be added or lost to Rule 5.

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 01:52 PM) The difference of course is we may be talking about a 20-30 million dollar difference with a Rodon contract, if not more in certain cases. Even still, the biggest thing is being a professional athlete. Your time to make top dollar is incredibly finite and when it's gone.......it's gone. That's why even as a fan, I've never had a problem with the "Boras approach" While that is all true. When you are talking about the difference between $100 and $120 million, the marginal difference isn't that big for an athlete. It is more pronounced when you aren't making multi-generational wealth with your contract.

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 01:38 PM) If I was the significant other of a professional athlete, it should really be the only school of thought. Moreso for a first big contract, though there is always something to be said for being somewhere you love. I know I turned down a chance to interview for a lot more money because I loved the situation I was in at the company I am at now.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 01:39 PM) There is plenty of that. 40 man roster is at 39, including Cordell who should be on it, but not reflected on mlb.com as on it, and the 60 day DLs. FA: Soto, Pelfrey, Gonzalez, Holland (reduces to 35) No brainer cut: Alfredo Gonzalez (reduces to 34) Other DFA candidates: Jacob May, DJ Peterson, Alen Hanson, Jake Petricka (non tender), Greg Infante, Danny Farquhar, and Chris Beck. Even if just 4 of those are removed from 40 man, roster goes down to 30. There will be plenty of room. I'd be super curious to see a list of guys on the 40 man that will be out of options next year. That would help clarify some things. We should be in pretty good shape for 40 man spaces.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 12:52 PM) Dane Dunning doesn't project as a top of the rotation guy Yeah, while Dunning probably has one of the highest floors in the system as a starter, guys like Kopech and Hanson have way higher ceilings because of their pure stuff.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 12:49 PM) I'd love to see the Sox sign Rodon before he consistently performs to his ability as well, but it ain't happening in all likelihood. It is good to see SoxTalk respecting what Rodon is. Sox Twitter never has given Rodon the benefit of the doubt he deserves. He has nearly thrown twice as many innings this year than he ever did in the minors before his initial call up. Absolutely ridiculous what the Sox expected from him in 2015. Of course, Boras Corp doesn't do those deals in most cases, but Rodon's fiancee has been blabbing to Sox fans in a Twitter group how they love Chicago but they will see "when we hit free agency." Even so, Sox have him for four more years after this. I think he's the most important player in the organization to the rebuild not named Moncada/Kopech/Jimenez. Well she apparently buys into the Boras school of thought.

According to Knights twitter, Giolito will be the 18th player from Charlotte promoted to the White Sox this year.

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Well they obviously have low standards and are OK with repeated failure. http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lion...able/589373001/ Detroit Lions have 2nd most dateable fans in NFL, study says

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Quality starter? How about an Ace? http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2017082...orts/170829796/

QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 11:27 AM) I agree. I believe that when lists are out at the beginning of next year he will be in the 25-50 range and our #3 prospect behind Eloy and Kopech I'd rank him there as well.

I have no idea how this kid isn't in the 25 to 50 range at least. He has checked all of the boxes for a year now.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 10:51 AM) Yeah but that doesn't suit the instant gratification types. Some folks just don't have patience. I don't know about you but despite the defensive growing pains I'm having a blast watching these guys. They're having fun and fun to watch. The losing sucks but I think ya know what I mean. We have all watched Avi Garcia for years now. I don't know how this isn't the best example of some guys take a while, you could ever ask for.

Relevant Zach @Zachary_Canny @jimcallisMLB @JonathanMayo Albies, Devers, Moncada, Rosario, who would you rather have for the next decade. Jim Callis‏Verified account @jimcallisMLB 24m24 minutes ago Can I have Vladimir Guerrero Jr. instead? In terms of offensive impact, I'd rank those guys: Moncada, Devers, Rosario, Albies. Like them all

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 07:39 AM) Daryl Van Schouwen - Twitter From that timeline September 1st makes a lot of sense.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 09:10 PM) With all due respect, you're hijacking a thread with a fairly dumb idea and logic. Highly doubtful they spend big money on a reliever given they're rebuilding and thus don't need an older reliever. More likely they go the Swarzak type reclamation project. Also, JR spent significantly on D-Rob and Melky the other year, so the money argument is largely wrong. If it is a cheap and tradeable deal, I would be OK with it. My guess is that will not apply to Reed.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 12:53 AM) All I'm saying is Yoan needs to step it up. You see rookies coming up and mashing now a days, and the #1 prospect in baseball is looking like trash in his second stint up here. Step it the hell up Moncada. Hopefully this works as well for Moncada as it did Abreu.

QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 11:40 PM) Baez is probably a better comp for Moncada. Struggled when called up in 2014 with massive K number and was so poor the next Spring Training that he played most of 2015 in AAA. Came into his own in 2016 and had a very good playoff run and is now really establishing himself. Cubs never gave up on him and were patient with him, Sox must do the same with Yoan and we might have to accept that just because he was the #1 prospect in MLB doesn't automatically mean he'll be an overnight superstar. That isn't a bad comp in the sense that you have two really raw and extremely high ceiling kids. The tool sets are a bit different, but the distance between current and ceiling is very similar in that it was/is very wide.