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Different Angle https://twitter.com/WillBrinson/status/900804935977230340

Fight between the tigers and yankees at the link https://twitter.com/MLB/status/900810505211830274

MLB Trade Rumors‏ @mlbtraderumors 54m54 minutes ago Michael Conforto Suffers Dislocated Shoulder https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/08/michael-conforto-suffers-dislocated-shoulder.html …://https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017...shoulder.html …

Item of note before the game... No Avi Garcia in the line up. Leury in RF, Kevan Smith at DH. https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/900794155336695808

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 01:52 PM) To me the options are give him a shot at pitching or release him, too many OF's pushing for playing time to keep giving him opportunities, and if he isn't playing everyday he's probably not going to progress. Next year is the first time that Hawkins position might actually be needed by legit prospects.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 01:50 PM) I think that the underlying problem is the change in his delivery and the delivery was changed so that he could handle a starter workload, so I believe it would fix the underlying problem. This is his second season as a pro starter, I get that last season was temporarily interrupted by a short relief stint in the majors. His numbers are moving in the wrong direction and I don't think repeating the level next year is really going to fix anything on its own either. Just changing back isn't a panacea. Giolito is still struggling with exactly that and can't repeat his delivery from pitch to pitch after 6 months of trying. There isn't any need for a reliever next year on the roster, so you give him another year at least to hope he gets it.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) Larry on SSS did a good break down and there will be a crunch. https://www.southsidesox.com/2017/8/18/1615...coming-whitesox It is a stretch to call this a "crunch". There aren't a whole of players who are really going to harm us if they aren't the 40 man roster. I get some players have to be added, but there is plenty of room to carve off chaff. A good chunk of that bullpen is going to be erased, for good reason. Do you see Danny Farquar holding down a roster spot? Anyone really worried about a team claiming Tyler Danish? Greg Infante? I'd put money on Putnam being a non-tender with his injury and arb standing. There are also a few position players would will be carved off of the roster as well. I am going to bet that one of Hanson or Peterson isn't on the 40 man come winter. Alfredo Gonzalez is Spanish for unemployed come December. The OF is probably also one OF heavier than it needs to be, especially if Avi comes back next year.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 01:03 PM) What do you think of Moncada leading off? After watching him run the bases, I'm beginning to think of him as potentially the most dynamic lead off hitter, since Ricky Henderson. As I posted the other day, he has a good eye and sees a lot of pitches. I'd rather not saddle him with the extra burden of having to hit in the #2 hole. Just let him concentrate on getting on and then turn him loose. Versus RHP 2B - Moncada RF - A. Garcia 1B - Abreu DH - Delmonico 3B - Davidson LF - Cordell CF - L. Garcia C - Narvaez/Smith SS - Anderson I wouldn't mind him hitting leadoff not because of "lead-off skills" or anything like that, but more because I want him getting as many PA's as possible.

Honestly this is a nice problem to have. They signed Glennon, but then didn't let that contract block them from drafting a guy they think could be a franchise changing player. Most organizations would have let that FA signing stop them from doing it because they might look bad or something.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 11:53 AM) If her name was Jackie Smith, she also probably wouldn't have won. That name carried a lot of built in electorate especially in the southern primaries. She would have never won the Democratic Primary without those advantages.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 11:12 AM) The guy is going to be 24 on OD next season. His AAA numbers this season are just not good, 5.61 ERA with a WHIP of 1.56. I think he could end up as a high leverage guy if you let him go back to his old mechanics and get the velocity uptick from throwing shorter outings. If things go right you get a guy like Roberto Osuna out of it and that is probably just as valuable if not more valuable than the back end starter that Fulmer appears to be on track to become. He had 21 starts a year ago and his stat line was pretty predictive of his success this season. I do not know of many players that become much better after repeating a year at the same level. Usually if a player stalls out at a certain level of the minors its an omen to move on. I am sure there are exceptions to this, as there almost always are, but given his development curve I find it hard to have faith that he will be any more successful as a starter than he has been. If you move him to the pen and give him a year to setup and close, he is a really valuable player next winter either to be a part of the rebuild or as a trade piece to reinforce what the Sox have coming up now. I think optimally he would start the season as the 7th inning guy and work later in the game as he gained confidence and when Nate Jones inevitably hits the DL again. Mechanic changes are really tough for players to adapt to. If they change something and don't have success they are going to struggle to have confidence that the change is really for the better. On the flip side you get a guy like Hansen where his mechanical changes produce immediate results it is a lot easier to have faith in the process. In addition to that, you are going to have guys pushing their way up into that AAA rotation alongside Kopech in Adams, Guerrero, and Stephens with Dunning and Hansen probably not too far behind. Moving him to the pen doesn't actually fix the underlying problems in Carson Fulmer. In fact it makes them harder to get fixed as he gets less repetition and structure in his work. Fulmer isn't a typical starter who worked 300-400 minor league innings as a consistent starter in a set role. He is a guy who already had some mechanical questions, was rushed through the minors, and has just now worked his first full season as a starting pitcher. The guy needs regular and consistent work, and as much of it as we can get. Besides with the next season or two being bleak anyway, the franchise loses absolutely nothing by his sitting in Charlotte even if he does it for both his age 24 and 25 seasons.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 09:30 AM) So with Fulmer, if you aren't as concerned about keeping him in games longer, do you let him go back to his older more violent mechanics? Or was that also to help him get more control (which seems to have failed) In his case, you need to give him innings and reps, along with a ritual and routine. Whether it is old or new or whatever, he needs consistency and repetition. 122 IP as a starter this year. 103 IP last year. Let him do whatever this year. Send him back to Charlotte next year with a clear routine and let him get 150 IP. Just forget he is even there for now. Realistically he should be somewhere around AA in his development at this point anyway. Even if he needs to go back again in 2019, let him do it. You can make him a reliever at any time. But you can't build innings and repetitions that way.

This entirely the reason he was called up for September duty. They want him picthing and getting as many reps as possible to click in his mechanics.

Daryl Van Schouwen‏Verified account @CST_soxvan 25m25 minutes ago White Sox weekend probables: Friday-Gonzalez, Saturday-Rodon, Sunday-Giolito. Tigers all TBAs as of now.

K-town Intimidators‏Verified account @Intimidators 21m21 minutes ago ROSTER MOVES: #WhiteSox prospect Blake Rutherford activated off Disabled List prior to Wednesday’s game. http://atmilb.com/2woSQhb

Patrick Finley‏Verified account @patrickfinley 17m17 minutes ago Ka'Deem Carey is out 6 weeks after having wrist surgery

Chelsea Janes‏Verified account @chelsea_janes 6m6 minutes ago Max Scherzer just said he's a couple days behind where he wants to be, and won't make a start Friday. Tight band in his neck.

670 The Score‏Verified account @670TheScore 1m1 minute ago Mitchell Trubisky took some reps with #Bears' first-team offense today for the first time http://cbsloc.al/2xtxps3 via @CEmma670

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 04:10 PM) Finally read this story. We hear "the bad" when it comes to sox lack of turnover and excessive loyalty, and those concerns are warranted, but I can't help but feel like here is "the good". The sox signing him, giving him the time off he needed, but also Tommy Thompson visiting him and giving care to basically a minor league free agent...that's nice to see and hear from the organization you give money to. This is the upside of the "loyalty" tag for the White Sox. I think more than anything they really do care about the people who work for them.

Charlotte Knights‏Verified account @KnightsBaseball 3h3 hours ago .@whitesox slugger Matt Davidson to begin #MLB rehab stint with #CLTKnights tonight in Norfolk. #WhiteSox

Chris Cotillo‏Verified account @ChrisCotillo 1h1 hour ago Trevor Rosenthal’s season is done, as he goes to the 60-day DL with an elbow injury:

MLB Daily Dish‏Verified account @mlbdailydish 60m60 minutes ago The Indians have placed Jason Kipnis on the DL with a right hamstring strain:

MLB Daily Dish‏Verified account @mlbdailydish 36m36 minutes ago The Red Sox placed outfielder Jackie Bradley Jr. on the 10-day DL with a sprained left thumb Wednesday afternoon:

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 03:22 PM) small sample size but Engel is not lighting up the defensive metrics. Leury grades out as much better They are hitting him for his range? lol, wut? Engel gets some of the best reads and range I have seen this year. That is terrible.

Carson Fulmer is just about to finish his first full season as a starter in professional baseball after 2.5 years in pro ball. There is no good reason to rush him out of the starting role. Just leave him alone and let him get his reps.