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QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 02:48 PM) Sox payroll has had second biggest decrease in the league from last year. There is no way money should be an issue for a transaction of this magnitude. If Robert is cleared by 6/15 and the Sox dive in they get back in the international game sooner. In this scenario the Sox would have a tougher path to signing Robert but the opportunity cost for the Sox is less. If Robert is cleared after 6/15, the Sox will not have to compete with teams who spent over the bonus in '16-'17 nor will they have to compete with the teams that have commitments in place for '17-'18. In this scenario, the path to signing Robert is far easier and there's reason to believe he could be cheaper, but the years of penalty extend further. This is the best Latin amateur player in the world and there will be plenty of interest from most all teams allowed to vie for his services but if Vegas put odds on this there's no way the Sox can't be on the short list all things considered. This should be very interesting to watch moving forward. If Robert is in the next July 2 class, the Sox have a chance. In this group? No way. Why wouldn't a team that is already over the caps just blow away the Sox offer?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 01:55 PM) I thought about this possibility and mentioned it. I thought they had agreements with guys though from the way that Paddy, Hostetler, and Hahn were talking and that gave me pause. Paddy made reference to a top flight pitcher earlier in the winter.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 01:51 PM) Normally you would be 100% correct here, but I'm thinking there may be something to this. They didn't spend much of the LaRoche money. It isn't just money. It is two years worth of players, including anyone they already have a deal with over $300k for July 2, 2017.

QUOTE (yesterday333 @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 01:52 PM) Why wouldn't they do that? If they don't have other plans for the money wouldn't this be the best use of it? This means they have zero agreements with anyone over $300k in 2017's class. I find that super hard to believe. I also can't see the team punting on two years worth of international signings for one guy at the time they need quantity more than ever. None of this sounds like the White Sox. Even if they aren't signing the top guys, they are bring guys in within the $500k to million dollar group on an annual basis.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 01:17 PM) Illogical would be another way to put it. Calling up our top prospects to platoon them before they're ready is illogical. Especially in a situation where we are talking about the difference between 68 and 71 wins.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 01:22 PM) Ben Badler article links White Sox to Luis Robert Um, ok. Sure.

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 01:11 PM) Actually Pat Burrell had >10 WAR his in his cost-controlled years, I bet he holds up pretty well. Erstad had 20 WAR in his cost-controlled years. So I think the main problem was their long unproductive tail, but overall for the drafting team that's pretty good. This. Especially Erstad was well worth the draft pick.

This makes it sound again like the deals that fell apart were NOT a Q deal. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/02/al-c...medium=facebook

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 05:40 AM) Kopech September 18 at earliest I would say and that's probably being too generous. Yeah, realistically he has had such low innings outputs, you have to imagine that things would have go absolutely perfect to make September of 18. In my head, I think middle to end of 2019 is realistic.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 09:42 AM) In general that will be the best way to get tickets. I am going to get on line to make sure I get good seats for the Buehrle game. Just logged in. Tickets are insane priced, and not many left. OF reserved behind the pens are $49 each. LOL. OK.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 06:50 AM) This week I'm recovering from having about 4.5 inches wide and an inch high removed from my front right side, because I have melanoma (skin cancer). More fun! Stage 1- means it's beyond the first layer of the skin but not into the organs. Ok, that IS actually fun news. They're also removing my left earlobe. WHEEE. I'm going to utilize my wife's fancy health insurance and see a plastic surgeon. I already started behind the 8 ball handsomeness-wise, so removing an earlobe ain't gonna help. Anyway, fingers crossed they got the margins necessary with Monday's surgery. The moral of the story? This was caught during a routine skin exam with a dermatologist. I have fair skin and red hair so RED ALERT, but if you have the means, go ahead and schedule one as it could save your life. Dang dude. Sucks to hear, but glad that it is super early. Heal up well.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 09:58 AM) In terms of keeping them engaged and learning? I'm just asking because I have no idea. Yes. Plus there is a whole lot less selling of product going on.

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 09:01 PM) Zack Colliins, as a Left handed DH and third string catcher would make some sense. Matt Davidson as a Right Handed DH second string third basemen might also make some sense. The ONLY way Collins should be a DH is after years of failing at C and 1B.

QUOTE (Brian @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 03:31 PM) Always fun at work when your servers go kaput and everyone has to call in. There is a lot of outage stuff going on today.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 03:24 PM) when do people realistically hope to see Giolito, Fulmer and Lopez back in the bigs? it sounds like all will start in AAA....when is the ideal time for these guys to start to continue working in the big leagues, assuming things go reasonably well in AAA? I guess another way to ask the question is in August of this year, how many of those guys will be on the big league roster? same thing can be asked for Moncada. Burdi I presume will be up at some point by the end of the year. At the very least I want to see them stay in the minors long enough to give us the extra full year of control.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 01:41 PM) Not if we ruin the environment and teach people not to take medicine so that they get sick more! HAHAAA Trump's secret plan is finally revealing itself. If people die earlier, they don't need as much healthcare... you might be on to something.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 01:26 PM) Hell, Asche may not even be in the minors since he would have to be DFA'd. Especially when you factor in having to make room for guys not on the 40-man but probably going to make the team (Bourjos comes to mind). Also a good point.

QUOTE (rowand's rowdies @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 01:03 PM) How long during the regular season do you give these guys like Davidson and Asche a chance to succeed? I keep seeing people suggest Davidson gets a chance in the MLB. How many ABs or Games (Non-DH) is your definition of "a chance" exactly? Does Davidson get a longer chance than Asche? Does Avi get a longer chance than both? When is enough enough? Then how long do you give the next man up a chance to prove himself if he's not a top prospect and just someone you are trying out? Maybe this is more of a topic than post. Just interested in seeing your opinions. They will both wash out relatively quickly. (Davidson and Asche) Honestly there is a decent chance that neither is on the opening day roster, and rightfully so.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 12:37 PM) I think there is a good chance he sees more time at 1B this year with Abreu at DH. Especially if Moncada tears up AAA and needs a spot in the infield (if Lawrie/Frazier isn't gone yet, Lawrie plays 3B). I forgot what paper I was reading where the article mentioned the 2B battle being between Lawrie and Saladino. Say if Saladino were to win the starting job at 2B, would they cut Lawrie since they would be on the hook for like 1/4 his salary (similar to when they tendered Viciedo a contract)? Lawrie still is not completely ready to play. Right now the clear favorite is Saladino IMO.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 12:33 PM) I think any team looking to trade for him has to consider that his time at 3B is limited. Quite literally this time is limited as he is a free agent at the end of this season.

QUOTE (shipps @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 08:25 AM) There have been many Bear fans (especially on here) calling for a resign or plan with Alshon for the past two years. With the thought that they better not just let him walk for nothing. Two years later low and behold they are letting him walk for nothing. As a GM and coach you dont have the luxury to wait and see how things work out with every player before you make big decisions. You have to be proactive in a lot of dealings or else you can get burned. Now if the Bears tried to sign him with a fair deal in the past and he just doesn't want to be a Bear then that's a different story. For a guy that has been injured as much as Jeffrey has been, I have to imagine the teams idea of a fair deal was much different than Jeffrey's. I would also bet that he had about zero value on the trade market as well for the same reason.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 07:56 AM) It makes sense to me. Shattenkirk is an upcoming UFA, Blues weren't going to sign him and aren't legit Cup contenders, so might as well get something for him. Caps are all-in to finally win a Cup and they get likely the best player available. With what Washington gave up to get him, I don't blame STL at all.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 09:56 AM) I mean he did get his call up last year only to break his foot day 1. Odds are he won't be good, but we'll never know if he would've actually been given a real look last year since the opportunity was snatched away so quickly. I am quite ok with his years of suck at AAA telling me everything I need to konw.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 09:57 AM) Beckham was pretty highly thought of on this board. I remember Harold Reynolds list of young players, calling him a future hall of famer as well. I know Gordo had some hype, but never top of the heap.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Feb 27, 2017 -> 11:36 PM) What he have, a whopping 20 PA at age 21 in MLB? Just a protip for Sox fans: we haven't had a position player prospect this highly rated by every service since probably...well, ever. Relax. Let the kid develop. His bat is gonna play. If he can make more plays like he did today at 2B he's a star. In real terms, we probably haven't had a guy this highly thought of since either Frank Thomas or Robin Ventura.