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Sam Panayotovich Retweeted Great Falls Voyagers Adam Panayotovich named Pitcher of the Week in the Pioneer League. He's on the hill tonight. Let's go. http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=2...81&sid=t581

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 6m6 minutes ago The #Tigers taking out their frustrations vs. #Indians in a big way, now up 12-2, after being outscored 77-24 in previous 11 losses

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA Sources: Bulls cancelled meeting, flight kept getting pushed back. If Wade is still serious, Chicago could travel to meet him on Thursday.

QUOTE (chisoxfan310 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 01:33 PM) Isn't it possible Q can still make it? Surely someone will pitch on Sat or Sunday and be unavailable, no? There are still additions to be made based on who can't play.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 01:15 PM) Me and the girlfriend just got approved for our first apartment. We'll be moving in together later this month. Good luck!@

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 01:07 PM) For the record, I used Albers as a microcosm of the entire staff.. and again, I repeat, to illustrate that stats don't tell the whole story... not to cherry pick…and if you were being perfectly fair and honest, you could say that the BP blowing an 8 run lead in the ninth would not be a total shocker, given the performance of the pen the last couple of months of 2016... You could say that it's irrational to purposely ignore a track record of failure and only point to the favorable..would that fit into your grand scheme of logic as well? But Albers isn't a microcosm of the entire staff. He is one man, and about the 4th/5th man out of the bullpen at that. Focusing on one guy who has been awful, while ignoring all of the primary guys out of the pen who have been very good sure doesn't tell the whole story either. They have also been good recently. Pretty much every guy, including the recent call ups, are at or better than what you would expect for them For example the numbers show over the last 30 days.... Jennings 0.84 era Jones 1.65 Putnam 2.08 Duke 2.16 Robertson 3.38 Beck 4.05 Ynoa 4.91 Albers 8.53 Yet, who is being focused on as "microcosm of the entire staff" when it comes to the bullpen? Matt Albers.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 12:23 PM) Yes, it was their female radio broadcaster who started going off on that point...like it was the most obvious thing in the world (which it kinda is). Where's the change/curve and 10+ MPH differential that's ideal? Why is everything hard? Why isn't he throwing his best fastball when he has shown time and time again he can throw 94-98 MPH in games even where/when he's around 90-110 pitches earlier in the year. It's not a stamina or pitching deeper into games point. And he's not getting significantly better command/location in the strike zone at the lower speeds. Farmer and DJ have both been going off about this issue pretty much all season long, but it still hasn't changed at all. Not that it's their job to "fix" Rodon. If everyone in the organization is talking about it, there is a pretty good chance that means Rodon isn't listening to the people who who were telling him that long before people started talking about it publicly.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:32 AM) Which was 2.5 months ago. Guess who is on the DL?

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:52 AM) What you are saying is true, but you're still tap-dancing around the fact that stats don't tell the whole story when judging performance… Specifically , the Sox bullpen.. Look at Albers. you might look at his numbers and say, hmm not too bad.. but those numbers are skewed by a short burst of good performance.. currently, the guy can barely get anyone out.. So it's not a matter of burying one's head in the sand, it's a matter of realistically looking at performance…and my judgement of the bullpen isn't based on one game I attended.. it's based on shaky performance going all the way back to early May You can blame injuries.. that's fine.. that's a valid point.. I will contend though, that the injuries really exposed the lack of depth inherent in the organization.. Bottom line...it's really the classic glass half full/half empty.. But hey, I get the narrative.. fans that criticize the organization are irrational and rant mindlessly, don't have all the information, but yet act like they have all the answers .. miserable whiners who find any reason to complain… love when the team loses so they can flaunt it in the face of the optimists… I can see where it might be cooler to be staunch pro - Sox organization.. It gives the illusion that those of your ilk may have some inside info that we, unwashed masses aren't privy to.. It gives the illusion that you are a better fan, stick with the team thru thick and thin… The crappy Chris Rongey type of attitude, is certainly your right to adhere to… the fatal flaw is, those of your ilk have decided to jump all over anyone with a critical point of view and paint them with broad strokes as a bunch of lunatics... No, I think you missed my point. Fans that criticize irrationally are irrational. It really is that straight forward. When you purposefully chose to ignore anything good, in favor of everything bad, and even get to the point of pointing to a single game just because you were at it as being more important evidence than everything else... yes I would call that irrational. Of course in this case you point at Albers. Why? Because he has been awful, which fits your rant. But the rest of the pen which is pitching to expectations, or above them right now? Crickets. Not Duke, not Robertson, not Jones, not Jennings... But Albers. Apparently hyperfocusing on one middle reliever over the whole package is looking "realistically" at a bullpen? Um, OK. Sure, you go with that.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:48 AM) If it wasn't for those darned blue seats (meddling kids, see Scooby-Doo)...there'd be nothing to complain about. GreenSox does have a point...if it wasn't for that stupid "all in" year in 2015, there wouldn't have been the need to push Rodon to start so quickly at the big league level. There are some possible parallels right now with Gordon Beckham's 2009 and 2010 seasons. So the reason for the push wasn't because his change-up was ready, it was because of the Boras/free agency timetable. (Interestingly, Nola also has been disappointing after his very strong start to 2016...so having passed on Rodon NOT to deal with Boras wouldn't have necessarily worked here either, as Nola was always the guy with the higher floor but lower, 2/3 starter, ceiling.) But we'll never know how much more complete a pitcher Rodon would have been...we simply know from watching him that Rodon doesn't have much trust in his offspeed stuff, and/or hasn't learned a way to let up on his slider to give him another version of that pitch and to create that consistent 10+ mph differential off his fastball. What we're often getting now are low 90's fastballs with a mid 80's slider and that 5-7 differential just isn't working at all. Not when he won't or can't throw a curve/change/Sale slurve in the low 80's/upper 70's. There wasn't a need. There was an agreement to move him quickly as a part of his signing for what he signed for.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:53 AM) What was his 3rd plate appearance last night? HBP? Sacrifice fly? IBB? HBP.

QUOTE (The Gooch @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:44 AM) AJ will be in town this weekend, maybe he could stick around Why? Does Bossard someone to mow the grass?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:27 AM) Many do. But the #3 is usually not a highly valued property, unless you're fortunate enough to have a good AAA prospect, which most teams don't. Hate? I don't hate people because they don't need a spot on the 40. It's supposed to be a professional baseball organization, not a holiday camp for friends. No. Many teams don't have a good #1 catcher, let alone 3. They may have 3 stiff bodies, which is exactly where the Sox are right now.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:15 AM) Considering Avila's injury history, they should have had one of those AAAA guys or grizzled veterans who have played for 1/2 the league stashed away in Charlotte. maybe they do. They actually had that one guy, but released him to "clear room" on the 40. but the 40 contained such luminaries as Scott Carroll et al. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 09:43 AM) How many teams have 3 or more catchers in their organization?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 09:41 AM) Thank for this dose of reality. Now back to your regularly scheduled irrational rant. QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:05 AM) So just so you know, when you dare to look back in time and point out the history of futility of the ballclub, be it either short term futility (last five years, eleven years) or long term futility (35 years), condemnation will be reigned upon you by SS2K5 fast and furious. He doesn't like that to be mentioned, and he will call you "bitter" for doing so. He just doesn't find it appropriate on a White Sox message board to express disappointment in the club's performance when it's been subpar. 'Sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows everywhere' is the only thing he has an appetite for. So just be careful is all I'm saying. I've been down this path before and have the battle scars to prove it!! And there it is, right on time.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:08 AM) Honestly, anyone listening to you would have a terrible team on the field and would trade away any and all players before they turn 25. Except Saladino Rodons development is fine, he shows flashes of dominance and then falls back to some bad habits. I'm disappointed he hasn't taken the same step we saw in his first year where he straight up dominated down the stretch, but I'm sure that doesn't matter to you because that doesn't fit your narrative that he hasn't progressed at all. Cooper hasn't been getting the most out of his pitchers the past couple years, I won't argue that, but your assertion that he is pretty much worthless is tiring and incorrect. You say the same damn thing all the time, we get it. You don't like Cooper and Hahn. Except for Alex Rios.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 10:50 AM) How's that development coming, all while the control clock is ticking? And if Hahn was going to let Boras make personnel decisions, then pick someone else. Tell us, what has Cooper accomplished in the last several years? Honestly, listening to yall one would think that Hahn, Cooper and Williams have actually been winning. So you are saying you would have passed on Rodon because of the contract demands? Interesting.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 10:00 AM) It hasn't happened yet. I'm still betting he winds up back in Miami. Yeah, I would imagine this is exactly what happens.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 09:44 AM) Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 2m2 minutes ago Jimmy Butler and Rajon Rondo have been recruiting Dwyane Wade to Chicago, according to sources close to situation. 7 retweets 2 likes Wait, players recruit other players? Since when? /DRose probably

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 09:14 AM) Is there any chance that they think Wade gives them the best chance at landing another max player next summer? That is literally the only good reason to look at Wade. Is he superfriends with Russ, or maybe AD?

This is for greg. http://www.vice.com/read/new-millennial-tr...source=vicefbus

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 08:59 AM) imo Trump's "the system is rigged!" response to the non-indictment is the worst possible move. Rather than focusing on all of the negative things said about Clinton and making it about her and her competence, he's making it a broader attack on the FBI, Comey, "the system." The system is rigged. But is rigged towards rich and powerful people like him.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 5, 2016 -> 10:27 PM) Another injury the Sox can't take because of the lack of talent in the minor league system and on the bench. We're not talking about All-Star selections here getting hurt (Avila, Jackson, Davidson, Putnum, Petricka, Webb) and the Sox are having a hard time replacing them. Mark How many teams have 3 or more catchers in their organization?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 09:25 AM) You really need to stop with this. You either have Rodon under these circumstances or you probably have Aaron Nola instead. Him coming quickly was part of his agreeing to sign for $6.8 million. I've been over this before though. Thank for this dose of reality. Now back to your regularly scheduled irrational rant.

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jul 5, 2016 -> 09:59 PM) C'mon, use some common sense…. If a guy has 10 AB's and gets 10 hits… he's batting 1.000.. if he then goes 20 AB's and gets 0 hits… even though he has exhibited terrible batsmanship during the last stretch of performance.. he's batting .300.. which normally is pretty good.. except it doesn't reflect the fact the current state of his performance, as it stands.... is a 000 average… pretty bad… On larger scale, lets' look at this example.. Kenny Williams was the GM when the Sox won the World Series in 05, but in the meantime.. one playoff appearance over going on 11 yrs, despite the fact that the playoffs have been expanded… understood, he hasn't been the GM over this entire stretch, but HE"S THE GM"S SUPERIOR Now, the apologists, as yourself.. stand fast in their believe that KW and the organization gets a break, and all the benefit of the doubt… And the only thing the whiny Sox fans want to do is focus on lackluster showing by the franchise over the past decade, instead of focusing on 2005 Thankfully you're just some dude spouting an opinion on an internet board, cause if you were the GM you'd have Estaban Loaiza signed cause he was 21-9 in 2003… because, hey, we should focus on the state and performance of a player.. when they looked good... Actually yes, please, let's start using some common sense. You do realize that a .333 batting average is NOT made up up a guy who gets a hit every three AB's, right? There are good stretches and bad stretches built in to get to whatever average the player is at. Instead of focusing on something that happened in one game, or only the part of the season you somehow feel is relevant, you can focus on the whole picture, or you can focus on what is actually happening now. Or you can bury your head in the sand and tell yourself that only the worst case scenario matters and that one game you went to was way more important than the sum of the other 83 games you didn't go go. But hey, don't let me stop you from changing the subject to find a one off example from 13 years ago instead of everything else.