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Thanks for this thread.

Good for Quintana

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 12:32 PM) Call it a stretch or one appearance. Whatever you would like. The point is, his numbers are skewed. Just as the BP numbers are skewed because of their April 2016 performance. Which I was reminded is the wrong thing to do Except in reality, the one stretch skewing the pen's numbers is the bad stretch in May. They were very good before, and very good since. But you want to focus on the negative, when the positives out number it for the big picture view.

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 11:51 AM) You called me out for being irrational and negative when I mentioned the BP as a whole cant be judged by a single stretch of good numbers that skewed the stats as far as getting a true pic of the quality of the pen Now you are saying Robertson can't be judged by a single stretch of bad numbers..that it doesn't reflect the quality of his overall performance. So which one is it? Pick a lane, man It really isn't that difficult. Instead of focusing on the worst possible scenario, I look at the big picture. The big picture here is that David Robertson has one completely awful non-save relief appearance that will skew his numbers horribly for the entire season. He has been a really good closer for this season. So instead of focusing on one game... (let me guess, you were there and this is all you remember of Robertson from this season) the big picture tells a pretty clear and compelling story.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 09:25 PM) Wrong. I did not like the Bonafacio signing from day one. Why are we talking about it? Because I mentioned that he was DFA'd this week. Because you brought it up!

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 09:47 AM) The reality is that in this the 22nd year of the existence of the AL Central, with small market Cleveland well on its way to wining this division for the eighth time, you combine that with how many times the other two small market teams have won the division, and you'll see that the large market White Sox, with its resources advantage, has been aced a whopping 15 times by a small market team over that 22 year period. 15 division titles between Cleveland, Minnesota, and KC, and just three for the Sox. This despite the Sox being the only team in the bunch with a sweetheart lease deal in place that allows them to keep far more of its revenues than those other teams can. It's clear what those other teams lack in $$$ resources they make up for in superior front office capital running those organizations. So yes, the reality is more of the same until that time when a change at the top finally occurs. I would be curious to see the details of those other teams leases.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 11:18 AM) We could get a mediocre reliever easily. Just offer Saladino or Sanchez and he's ours. Not to get people too excited, but the Brewers have a couple of guys in their 30s who could be ours. Of course, that's the last thing a sensible organization would do.... I am sure no team within a few games of a playoff spot will trade for veteran relief help. I mean that never happens...

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 09:22 AM) James Shields is one of the best starters in baseball if we just ignore 4-5 of his starts. Should we throw out all of his ER's because he only pitched like 3-4 innings total in them? The entire point of baseball for a pitcher is to record outs...therefore, when you don't succeed at that and keep allowing baserunners, of course the appearance/s will be limited, unless Ventura just left said pitcher in an unlimited amount of time. Do you blame Ventura, then, for those two appearances, moreso than Robertson? John Danks as well. Statistics don't lie...over the course of half a season, they paint a fairly decent picture. If we took all the blown saves away from each of those closers, wouldn't they all be close to elite? How many 1-2-3 innings has he had this year in closing situations, compared to the others? Or that's an unfair way to look at his job/responsibility as well...? I think it really is this simple. Robertson has given up 13 runs this entire year. 6 of them, or essentially half, were in one single outing. Does it change his season long stats? Absolutely. Realistically it means that his entire season era has been doubled by one outing, meaning this isn't something that has been happening all season.

Brett Lawrie

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 02:59 PM) Which is fine honestly, I know Morneau is a wild card right now but him at DH ridding us of Avi is a massive upgrade. Lucroy would be the only trade target I'd inquire about since he'd round the lineup out so well at a position he can hold until Collins can potentially take over. Anderson Eaton Abreu Lucroy Melky Frazier Morneau Lawrie Jackson That's a legit lineup. Pick up a solid bullpen arm if possible, get Rodon going better and this team will be in it until the end. As a DH, Morneau doesn't even have to that much to drastically improve what we have gotten out of that position, not to mention being a left really balances out the line up a lot better. Even if he puts up only a .700 OPS, that is a 50 point improvement over what Avi has given us so far this year.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 02:57 PM) My requisite post The Sox will never get anywhere if they keep moving their better prospects for 1-2 year veterans who have reached peak. Yes, it will meet the Williams/Hahn mythical "3 (now 2) year window" and it obviously would excite fans. But the Sox won't win. Some teams can do this sort of thing...those with stocked farms. The Sox system is thin, including, despite claims to the contrary, pitching. Looking for a catcher is particularly bad idea, as the marginal value of a catcher upgrade isn't as great as, say, the marginal value of a hitter, but the cost would be much higher. They haven't been moving "their better prospects". They have been moving second and third tier guys. Tim Anderson is here. Carlos Rodon is here. Tyler Saladino is here. Carson Fulmer is still in the system. Steven Adams is still in the system.

Maybe something crazy will happen, but remember this off season Cincy was so utterly uninterested in our second tier of prospects (we wouldn't trade them Anderson, Fulmer, etc) that we couldn't get a deal done for Frazier straight up. Nothing got done until Hahn enlisted the Dodgers. My guess is that the odds of a Bruce deal are slim to none.

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Carson Fulmer had one of the best pitching months out of minor league players in June, according to Matt Eddy at BA. Two guys right of ahead of him? Giolito and Glasnow. https://twitter.com/MattEddyBA/status/751484890818879488

He failed one in college to, which is why he went pro so early. Anthony Slater @anthonyVslater Mitch McGary has been suspended five games by the NBA for a failed drug test.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 02:00 PM) Mark Simon ‏@msimonespn 20s20 seconds ago Most Defensive Runs Saved via Shift (per @fieldingbible) Mariners 17 Padres 16 White Sox 13 Rockies 12 Phillies 12 0 retweets 0 likes Again, from a naked eye standpoint, the defense and defensive positioning is so much better this year. It is nice to see numbers that back that up.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) It was just an expression, Southsider. That's all. Sure, Hahn made worse moves that had a greater negative impact. Jeez, you take everything so literally. Maybe I should have said one of the worst moves of that year? That is probably more accurate. Still, it was a lousy signing, doomed from the start, a waste of $3 Million bucks and a roster spot for a guy who had no business on this team. In summary, the signing of Emilio showed a profound lack of good baseball judgment. I saw that the Braves DFA'd him , so I mentioned it here in a very minor post, and you make a federal case out of it. You have incredibly thin skin for posting on a message board if you can't handle someone questioning a post like you made. Quit taking getting replies to inaccurate posts personally.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 12:47 PM) Are you guys really going to turn this thread into a liberal/neocon pissing contest? Really? Oh hello, you must be new to the Buster.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 12:16 PM) I think I might have a skewed view of current events going on by what I have read collectively on social media and the internet. I am hoping that we really arent as divided as those forums seem to strongly indicate. I just came across this. Honestly it is a perfect statement of where we have gotten to as a country. http://graphics.wsj.com/blue-feed-red-feed...dallas-shooting

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 11:56 AM) If signing Bonifacio to a 1 year $3 million contract qualifies as one of Rick Hahn's worst moves ever, he will be doing pretty good. No question the $3 million turned into a gift to the Bonifacio family, but there are far worse moves made every season. Interesting to note, when Bonifacio signed, the reaction here wasn't exactly negative. In fact he was a big time favorite of Soxtalks for a signing, long before he signed.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 11:36 AM) How can this have "so little impact" on an organization you always *claim* operates under very limited resources? $3 million in modern baseball isn't that much money. It also isn't $30 million to spend on a free agent OF.

Send it.

It would be really nice to see Chris and Jose both make statements on the mound about their status for the ASG, IE that Sale should start, and that Q should be there.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 7, 2016 -> 07:45 PM) How about Brian McCann instead? Realistically, I don't see the Yanks selling unless they have a rough couple weeks. With that contract, they would probably just give us McCann. That is an ugly contract for a guy who was just publicly labeled as an $85 million platoon player.