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There is a middle ground you are missing here, where instead of throwing the guy 100 innings in the first half of the season, they use him for shorter outings at the beginning of the season, thus leaving him more innings for the end, and for a team who might trade for him to utilize. He's worth more today than he was in March, but he also could still be worth more if he had more innings availability projected.

At least.

If you get him to give up any free agent years, it won't be cheap.

Crochet has to want to he extended.

If you watch interviews with him, he 100% admits that "Hawk" is a made up TV persona.

My point is we control a superstar potential asset for 3.5 years. If you don't get what you want, you take the chance. This isn't a guy who leaves in three months, or is limited ceiling. Rick Hahn did this to perfection with Jose Quintana, waiting almost a full year past his initial other deals to do it. I don't start worrying about depreciation on him until we hit 2 years of control.

And trading Crochet 3 years ago would have been a disaster.

Yeah, this. Hawk was this on steroids.

I don't like operating a large market MLB franchise like cowards. Get value for your players.

Cool. Or it might. That's the game you play.

If he wasn't already going, he sure as hell is now.

Luis in his injury riddled career is a 125 OPS+ player. Cameron was 106. They are no where near the same universe as hitters. Cam's career best year of 123, is less than Roberts average of 125. Lu's rookie year of 100 OPS+ is his career worst.

Then you use some of the 3.5 years of control you still have until it works.

And there is never, ever, never enough pitching on the trade market, especially since the extra wild card. Dealing pitching seems to always be better at the deadline, especially the mediocre kind.

Which they will use to sign the next C tier Benintendi.

If he is anywhere close to 2023 Robert, his contract is a bargain.

What's a "good market" look like is the follow up question.

It's a rough injury anyway, but we have shown probably the worst ability in baseball to prevent soft tissue injuries anyway.

He would be a no to me in this organization.

It seems like the top of this draft is a much bigger mess than I can recall seeing in a typical year. Are the top players all that close together, or is this because of Cleveland not tipping their hand without a clear #1 this year?

Meh, if Leasure is healthy, let him figure it out. Even if Pedro has to use him as an early set up guy, let him go and try and work out of it.

They will also lose a good chunk of expected payroll in the next month. While those numbers are full year projections, once some established player movements happen, that number will drop, but it will fully depend on who goes. Robert is at $12.5 million. If he goes at the deadline, that is between 4-5 million off by itself. Fedde would save $2-3 million. Brebbia and Soroka would be good for a million plus each. Decent chance we finish this season below Minny, who may well add payroll at the deadline.

This organization employed Hawk for decades. They don't care.