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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 02:26 AM) Yeah, 92 innocent people were just killed in Norway, but people are upset about a drug addict finishing hersef off...come on now QFT

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 07:02 AM) Again, that has nothing to do with scouting and player development. Deep pockets come into play when it comes to retaining and signing free agents. You are off of your rocker if you think that stuff isn't a direct result of money.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 02:33 AM) The cat and mouse Ozzie/Kenny game keeps going on... The order of those two things is reversed FWIW. These quotes came before Dayan was pulled from the game.

Pierre - LF Ramirez - SS Konerko - 1B Dunn - DH Quentin - RF Pierzynski - C Rios - CF Teahen - 3B Vizquel - 2B Jackson - P

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 10:40 PM) They're the blueprint on how to run a year-in and year-out successful organization. Other than the Lackey signing, I can't think of a single bad move they've made in the last 7 or 8 years. Well, I guess you can throw Jenks in there. He's bad. Ha! Forgot about Dice K. They're not perfect, obviously. But they do so much right that it negates when they make a mistake. It sure helps when you have their payroll.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 09:42 PM) I can't believe you guys can't see how ridiculous it is to trade CQ and merely put Dayan there. What does that accomplish? They are the same player potentially? So we add some reliever for CQ? Or a couple minor leaguers? Stupid. Trading one of two productive players in the whole lineup is a smart trade? Dumb as hell. The only way I'd trade him is for a can't miss third baseman. BTW read tonight's Chicago Tribune Gonzalez rainout article. Doesn't sound like changes are imminent. www.chicagotribune.com CLEVELAND — With the July 31 non-waiver trading deadline one week away, manager Ozzie Guillen doesn’t see the need to acquire a player as long as the White Sox show improvement. “A lot of people say we need this or that,” Guillen said before Saturday night’s rainout in Cleveland. “You know what we need? Our guys to play right and play (well). That’s my opinion. “If they start playing (well), I don’t think we need anybody else. If we are not playing good, then (general manager) Kenny Williams could go a different way. If we don’t play good for the next couple of weeks, they could go in a different direction.” Guillen said he hasn’t spoken recently to Williams, who didn’t accompany the Sox on their three-city trip that ends Sunday. “I think he believes the way I believe, that we have a better ballclub than the way we’re playing,” Guillen said. “I still believe we have a better ballclub. We’re just not playing the way we think.” The Sox have survived without a true long reliever since Jake Peavy threw four innings in an emergency appearance June 25. But Brian Bruney said he’s capable of throwing more than one inning if needed. “You start throwing guys two or three innings at a time consistently, guys get fatigued,” Bruney said. “So in my opinion, it’s always better to give a guy an inning but keep him fresh. You give them more work, but you keep them sharp with maybe an inning or 1 1/3 innings rather than stretching guys out. “But I feel comfortable with whatever they ask me because if I need to come in like I did when (John) Danks went down and throw (a career-high) 2 1/3 innings. I felt stronger every inning, I don’t mind doing it.” Thanks Mr Obvious.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 05:22 PM) Well, obviously she won't leave the same mark on music the others before her did, I'm not even a fan of her music, I was more taken by the fact she died of drugs like those others before her at the exact same age. Brian Jones was also 27 I believe when he died. The only thing she has in common with that group is age. The rest of them literally changed music forever.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 04:37 PM) 88-74 good enough to win the central? No doubt in my mind

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 04:39 PM) One of them sits in the White House, as witnessed by his little temper tantrum yesterday. Funny how the definition of "Presidential" has changed so dramatically.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 08:22 PM) Humongous tax difference between individuals and corporations, while we are doing both. And marginal, average, and effective are COMPLETELY different things. No way!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 04:39 PM) So the U.S. government should use tax dollars to actively subsidize heavy manufacturing to create jobs? I'm pretty sure that was your exact argument why we couldn't cut the public sector...

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 03:57 PM) Been at this job for coming up on 6 years and just got passed up for promotion by a lady who has been there 3 months and is friends with the supervisor. Go me for not being an ass kisser. Time to start looking.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 03:43 PM) My favorite Dijon Sanders moment was that incident with Tim McCarver on live TV back in the 90's. What an idiot. Nah, the best was when Carlton Fisk almost stuck his punk ass.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 03:32 PM) My thoughts when I was watching that were: a) that is a really stupid question b) Urlacher isn't into coaching offensive players, least of all another team captain I can't argue with either of those

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 03:27 PM) So if we had Bmac and Freddy, 2007 wouldn't have happened? Garcia and McCarthy who both were injury wrecks in 2007...

Exactly.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 02:16 PM) Yeah, that's really weird, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain and now Winehouse... Yeah, one of these things is not like the other.

The Sox are not adding salary. Forget about it guys.

QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 11:17 AM) Wrong. No team was ever mentioned as willing to offer a contract anywhere near what the Sox offered Dunn. AFTER Peavy's injury NO team was interested except the Sox. Jackson's interest was not high when he was getting pounded in Arizona. Certainly, no one was offering a 19 y.o. LHP prospect that was a number 2 pick along with a ML ready starting pitcher. They were all ridiculous deals from the start. The only way these could have panned out for the Sox would be if Jackson consistently pitched like an ace from season start to finish, Peavy miraculously became immediately healthy and stayed that way for years and also miraculously pitched with the some success in the AL as he did pitching in the NL and the most pitcher friendly park in baseball. Those things were never gonna happen. With Dunn, even if he hit like the past he wasn't worth a first round pick and that $ 56 mil. contract for an aging guy that can't play the field for you and even when going good bats .250 and strikes out more than anyone. Wrong. Detroit would have gladly paid him.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 03:09 PM) They have 3 guys currently above .300 (Cabrera, VMart, and Peralta), 3 more on the border (Boesch, Avila, and Betemit), and 2 more who are usually damn good hitters when healthy (Ordonez and Guillen). And Ordonez has risen his average I think 30 points already since the Sox played the Tigers. Honestly, if they get Beltran (I don't see it happening, but who knows) or Austin Jackson gets healthy and breaks out of the sophomore slump... they could wind up with the best offense in the league come August. And with Verlander, they need two or three starters to get hot to be scary, and that is a legit possibility with the talent they have in that rotation with Porcello and Scherzer. You can't make excuses for their guys as a part of their overall projection, and then dismiss our own guys who are in the same boats.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 11:39 AM) In a postgame interview once Deion Sanders (who is kind of a dumbass) said that Jay Cutler is 18-0 when his QB rating is over 100 and then asked Brian Urlacher if he's ever pulled Cutler to the side and said "come on!" As stupid as that question is to ask a linebacker (does anybody really think Cutler or any other QB has games with his rating under 100 on purpose?) Urlacher's response was "that's not my job, I've got enough to worry about keeping the defense in line." Didn't talk out of turn, didn't create any controversy about him dissing his QB, none of that. Easy, too... Urlacher is also kind of a dick. At least that is a guy who is on his team. Dayan hasn't been with this group since March.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 01:41 PM) I believe he would have to accept any demotion down. Not a chance

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 12:22 PM) That's not to say making guys temp. starters is a good practice. It is widely done though. I think it helps the development of pitchers a lot more than being in the pen the whole time.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 10:48 AM) He will be undone by the Sox screwing with him. There was really no need to make him a starter last year. He has two pitches, that isn't starter material. And somehow the Sox moved him to starter (perhaps it was to improve a third pitch, who knows), but he had a poor year last year because of it. Seems like he is getting back in the rhythm he had prior to starting. Up until Reed, that has been the Sox philosophy. They try to build repeatability and arm slot before moving them to the pen.