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QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 08:03 AM) Here we go again... http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/...draft-thus-far/ OK that article was pathetic. I know Ozzie says some stupid s***, but that was a Hawk Harrelson, medium fly-ball STRETCH! Ozzie hasn't said a thing of substance yet. Speculating is one thing, but projecting is another.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 03:56 AM) Hopefully the power follows shortly. His slugging doesn't cut it for any position other than pitcher. Once morel can get past juan pierre's career slugging mark... or starts taking walks at a respectable rate i will start getting a tad more excited. I'm not even greedy asking for both to click at once... but until then he is worthless offensively. For whatever it is worth, i have less faith in him growing into some solid power than i do him learning how to take a walk. I can't see him even sniffing crede's numbers, and if he does, it will likely be years down the road. I don't think he will get into the 30 range, but I can see him being a 35 double, 15 homer guy. That is fine for the 7/8 slots in the line up with his defense.

QUOTE (Real @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 11:41 PM) we've been mediocre going by the W/L record over that time, it's just that Cleveland has been horrible Which is how you make up games. Its either that or be awesome when other teams are meh. Either way, the games still count.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 09:59 AM) I miss stuff like that, but I sort of understand it. I think that's the hope of the organization. Honestly, I don't mind this draft philosophy. Draft athletes who project to CF (or SS, though they haven't done that yet) who can grow into their bodies. If they grow so big and get good enough offensively, you can switch positions. If you draft a 1B at 47 overall, you better know that dude is either going to hit 30 homers a year or is going to rise quickly. Having multiple tools doesn't hurt. Thought I read he had a good arm too. Seems to me Walker at the moment is a 20/40 Bat 20/35 Power 75/80 Speed 40/80 Field 60/80 Arm The two that bug me the most are the bat and power. Those, especially the bat, are the most easily coached and able to go above the initial scouting report. If they can develop him into a 50 bat with a decent eye at the plate, then the rest is golden. The stealing will translate over time and the fielding and arm will get better through mere repetition. Hope and pray that the worst case scenario is Carlos Gomez. At least then, if he's still broadcasting (and alive, quite frankly), Hawk will be able to gush about how big of a Twins kills Keenyn Walker in. That screams Franklin Gutierrez to me.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 07:35 AM) When we pick up a guy who was in someone else's org 3-4 years ago and they start performing our staff gets no credit for that, so when someone else picks up a guy we had long ago and he starts performing that must be a credit to us. Not to mention we drafted him in the 3rd round.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 10:54 PM) Pretty much. We're not talking about some premium talent here. But I'm certainly not going to be checking every day to see if he's signed yet. Bust of a pick and a horrible draft overall. QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 09:19 PM) If a crazy, suicidal f*** jumps off the top of the Sears Tower (I will never refer to it as the Willis Tower), I don't have to wait until he/she hits the ground to no that fool is dead. s***ty analogy. But same difference. I know you're an optimist. I have no problem with that. It's a natural tendency to think the team that you cheer for and love can do something with a player(s) that nobody else could. But those that are not drinking the kool-aid just because said player happens to be a White Sox shouldn't be looked upon as evil demons that just like to be negative for the sake of being negative. I've said this many times before. If the Cubs were set to insert Humber into their rotation EVERY single poster on this board, and that includes you SS2K5 and JoeCool, would be laughing their asses off. This is undeniable fact. Now if somehow, someway, Humber pulls a horseshoe out his ass and is even serviceable, great. It won't make me feel stupid for not expecting a thing from him this year. He's done nothing in his career, outside of being a high draft pick sever years ago, that warrants any type of faith. Nice work heads. I keep waiting to see the jumper from my office window.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 06:54 AM) Yeah, there is a difference between something nagging that long-term is innocuous (just short-term pain) and something that if aggravated can lead to a major injury. Like Paul Konerko and his wrist which would be a two month outage if that chip moved into the right place and had to be surgically removed?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 06:09 AM) My second all-time favorite player is Barry Bonds. So I obviously don't have a problem with doucheiness (I know that's not a word) as long as you can play. This is overblown. It just goes to show you how much s*** has changed. This was an 18-year old in a single A game that was more than likely just messing around. But with MUCH more extensive media coverage and twitter and facebook and everything else we've got out there, the smallest things get overhyped. I've seen Pujols, Ramirez, Griffey and many other great players stand and admire their HRs. Look at f***ing Sammy Sosa. This is no big deal. Sure the game has changed. If he had tried that in the past, someone would have hit him in the head with the very next pitch.

QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 10:17 PM) Ozzie's Twitter, posted AFTER the Sox win... http://twitter.com/#!/OzzieGuillen This came after it, As did some weird s*** about Sean Penn should move to Venezuela.

This is lottery ticket day, especially with the demise of draft and follow.

D_Jacobson_10 Dan Jacobson by FutureSox @ @FutureSox As far as Ian Gardeck goes, I talked to his family (grew up with him) and he wants to be done with college. Gonna sign.

That was an "I want to go home" call at first, but I will take it.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 09:34 PM) UZR doesn't work very well with 1B. Best thing to use to judge a 1B is just to use your own eyes. And everyone knows Konerko has no range.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 09:31 PM) To me it was obvious they were talking about the politician who tweeted a inappropriate picture to some co-ed when the guy is married. He sent the tweet to 45,000 of his followers accidentally and then said he was "hacked"- and it turned out to be a lie and he came clean yesterday. Anyways I wasn't paying 100% attention and I just jumped on this thread so forgive me if I'm pointing out the obvious I would have swore they were talking about Ozzie.

Why is he an an asshole?

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 09:26 PM) Whose mind? Because Konerko has been solid all year, DH or 1B, and Dunn has been awful all year, at DH or 1B. Dunn.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 09:22 PM) I missed that. Have to keep an eye out. It wasn't obvious. It was some sort of an inside joke, I am trying to read into.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 09:24 PM) Whats Humber's chances for ROY if he keeps it up? 0. He's not a rookie.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 09:22 PM) Why? Konerko is a much better defender, may as well give Konerko 5 or 6 starts at 1B a week. If it helps get his mind back to hitting, you do it.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 09:16 PM) Dirks gonna dirk tonight. I don't know if anyone posted this, but they broke down the mechanics of the Dirk fadeaway on sportscenter the other day. Basically when he gets full extension on his fadeaway, you could be as tall as Yao Ming, with Derrick Rose's vertical, and you still couldn't block his shot by jumping straight up in the air.

[standing ovation]

Hawk and Stoney teasing about Twitter like they know something is coming tonight... Ozney rant expected? the post game show could be fun.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 09:13 PM) Hmm i wouldn't be so sure... cuz we could have possibly traded Hudson for the likes of an even better slugger than Dunn probably most likely A-Gone... and also have Humber at the same time. If we could have traded Hudson for Gonzalez, it would have happened.