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QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 29, 2009 -> 12:30 PM) yes, laziness and crime are obviously new phenomenons that have just developed. And to be clear, you are blaming this on college athletes who have cheated? I think you cheated your way through reading comprehension if you got that out of it.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 29, 2009 -> 11:16 AM) I really see us re-signing JD for a solid amount and keeping Pauly at first. Q will end up in RF. One of Fields, Viciedo, or Allen will end up in LF.

QUOTE (Texsox @ May 29, 2009 -> 11:55 AM) So true. As a society, and especially sports fans, now accept cheating as ok, or even necessary. Sad. Actually earning what you get is no longer necessary. Other kids in that class actually worked for their grades, but that is only necessary of you are not athletically gifted. f*** the regular students. Sorry, but when cheating is condoned, we all lose. It erodes at the foundation of our education system and our society. No wonder we have developed generations of people as a country now who feel they are entitled to do whatever they want to do, rules and laws be damned. Forget work, you owe to it me! If you won't give it to me, I will just take it from someone else.

I am sad to see him out of the line up, but he hasn't been himself for a while now. Hopefully someone removes the kryptonite from his foot, so that he can get back to dominating pitchers.

D, it is the only milk that actually tastes like milk. The rest tastes like various stages of water mixed with milk. Blech.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 29, 2009 -> 09:40 AM) Lets be clear here, the guy never cheated in sports, it wasnt steroids, it wasnt a game day thing, he cheated so that he could get to the next level in an organization that he had no future in anyway. Its really not that big of a deal to me now to be honest. DROSE is too good of a bball player for this to do ANYTHING to his image. I'm pretty sure everyone or at least 99.9 percent of folks on this site knew he had cheated at some point in the process. The fact he is willing to lie, cheat, and steal any any level pretty much means he wouldn't be above cheating in the sport to. Besides it is silly distinction. The guy is as much of a cheater as anyone else that has been fried in pro sports. Its pathetic that people are kissing his ass because he plays in Chicago.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 29, 2009 -> 09:36 AM) Quite a stretch trying to compare on field antics of an asshole vs some folks who cheated for a kid behind the scenes. It sure is. Premeditated cheating to me is WAY worse than someone who loses their temper in the heat of the moment.

QUOTE (WSoxMatt @ May 29, 2009 -> 09:22 AM) Those guys won't be DH's that early in their careers I think that none of them DHs in the first few years of their careers. I am guessing we see Flowers catch. Allen at 1B, and Viciedo in LF.

QUOTE (Texsox @ May 29, 2009 -> 09:22 AM) I've been trying to wrap myself around the current concept that high paying jobs are bad in almost every industry. It seems sad that Americans gave up on high paying jobs, at least for the "other guy". When your industry is going bankrupt, that means it is too much. I don't think it is nearly as complex as people want to make it out to be.

This is off of facebook LET THE SPECULATION RE-BEGIN!!!

So I am curious about those who think Calipari is some sort of scumbag, but Rose is OK. What is the difference between the two? They both cheated their asses off, why is one guy having excuses made for him?

QUOTE (MN_Sox @ May 28, 2009 -> 10:42 PM) I agree recently maybe so...but I've been a White Sox fan since '83. And I still remember those days back then when the White Sox just absolutely sucked because we had no farm system, and we didn't invest in any players. Those days of long ago when we couldn't keep any talent, even home-grown talent. I am glad that recently, the White Sox have been doing better in keeping and trying to get better players, build up the farm. But as far as I'm concerned, we still have never tried to go after the "big" name guy. And I believe that most big name high priced players wouldn't want to come to play for the White Sox. It's like Cleveland, Kansas City, Minnesota; most big name players wouldn't want to play there...most of your good high priced players would rather goto the Angels, Yankees, and Red Sox. I believe the White Sox have as much tradition and history as the Red Sox and Yankees, but the White Sox would never be anything close to what those organizations are. I guess it's good to dream that some day, ballplayers would actually "want" to come to Chicago; not the Cubs! I don't know just my $ .02, take it for what it's worth. Maybe we need to build a new stadium???? Isn't it about time? I don't believe the bond issue on this stadium has even been paid off yet. It has been less than 20 years.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ May 29, 2009 -> 08:17 AM) I think they can hold their own too, but apparently their chances arent percieved to be too good. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/ps_odds.php BP never likes the Sox, its not a surprise. We outplay the statistics on a pretty regular basis.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...rtnerId=rss_cws

For those who have not seen it, here is an interview from October with CJ http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=68361

QUOTE (fathom @ May 28, 2009 -> 09:40 PM) So the Dodgers have to let the pitcher bat with 2 outs and runners on 2nd/3rd in the 9th inning cause Broxton's out. I hate the NL. I can only imagine the beating Ozzie would take for this...

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 28, 2009 -> 09:30 PM) A bit hypocritical given that time Buehrle took the bat to the heater. That being said Z is an impulsive, childish player. And Buehrle seems to have proven that this was a heat of the moment thing and that he's one of the more classy players in the game. The two instances are not even in the same universe. Get back to me when Mark bumps and umpire and fires a baseball into the OF after a large temper tantrum.

QUOTE (hogan873 @ May 28, 2009 -> 08:22 PM) I was reading up on this and thought I saw JR's name mentioned. The other interested party was looking to move the team to Hamilton, Ontario. I wonder if Reinsdorf's intention would be to move the team, and if so where? I know that the Glendale location is terrible for that team. I don't know if the Chicago area could support a second hockey team...not that he would move them here. JR lives in Phoenix. If he buys the team, I don't see them moving.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 28, 2009 -> 08:23 PM) There's a big difference though. In the case of the defense department, 100% of its financing is public money. In other words, if I want to generate a high paying job, I need to have the taxpayer spend 100% of the cost of that job. In the Automobile industry...GM in the first quarter reported revenue of $42 billion and a loss of $3.3 billion. If I assume those numbers are accurate (I have no idea if they're being treated like a bank or not)...if the government covers the entire loss, then the government is paying less than 10% of the price of running the company. GM is therefore in this case analogous to the PPIP the Treasury is trying to work...it's paid for by a combination of government funds and private dollars, except the public is always going to fund a portion of the company willingly, because the public gets cars out of it. And the multiplication factor is important...if the government doesn't cover that 10%, then the other 90% goes to chapter 7 and vanishes. A $3 billion dollar cut produces a $50 billion loss to GDP. Whereas in the DOD, a $1 billion cut to a DOD program = a $2 billion cut to GDP. By the logic bailing out the banks was the smartest thing we have ever done because of the additional multiplier effect through lending. Somehow I doubt you really believe that.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 28, 2009 -> 08:14 PM) Is the total number of dollars in the defense budget going up or down? Until the wars end, I'd say that if you count all dollars being spend on the department of defense, they're still going up, whereas if you count all dollars going towards automobile production, public and private, the latter is going down. More money is being spent on the DOD, less money is being spent on the department of automobile manufacturing. Excellent. Now you get why it is even dumber to be pissing away tax dollars into the auto industry under the guise of "high paying jobs".

It won't affect the Sox and Bulls at all. Neither of these teams has affected the other in the twenty years plus JR has owned both, that won't change if the Coyotes are bought.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 28, 2009 -> 07:58 PM) I just find that a bizarre way to look at the auto industry bailouts. Yes, the line item in the federal budget for "The auto industry" has gone up, but at the same time the auto industry is contracting substantially. Just struck me as a very weird way to think about the changes in that industry...to say that "we're increasing the budget for the auto industry" when the total amount of dollars (public + private) going in to automobile construction has dropped off. Why, you made the same analogy for the defense budget?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 28, 2009 -> 07:36 PM) The Sox would almost certainly not offer him arbitration, given that he's making $14 million this year. Thome's camp wouldn't agree to let the Sox do that and then decline it; they'd be hurting the market for their player because Thome'd likely be a type A free Agent, and thus it'd cost a draft pick to sign him. I am not saying what would or would not happen. I am just saying how it could be done.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ May 28, 2009 -> 11:56 AM) College players cheating the billion dollar NCAA.......that's rich. If I am a high school player I take everything I can get. Especially if I know I am only going to college for one year. Not to mention everyone always leaves out the free education. Like it or not that is at LEAST a $50,000 benefit to these players, it is way more than that at some places.

Wow, Derrick Rose really is an idiot. He couldn't get into Memphis without getting his grades fixed AND having someone take his SATs? That is PATHETIC. He is lucky the Zambrano stuff is all over the Chicago news, or he would be getting crucified.