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QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 27, 2009 -> 10:52 AM) Who would ever say that those two players are comparable? Its f***ing obvious that Quentin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> x infinity >>>>>> Wise. YOu want to talk about a silly argument... Just because a player got to the bigs in a different way doesnt mean they are bad. Players are human, they can digress, improve etc. Should we start JVB over MB, because you know that Mark was a late round pick, and well JVB was a first rounder. Obviously JVB is better. f*** no, MB improved and overcame the questions about him to be in the position that he is in now. Can no one see the sarcasm in the TCQ/Wise thing. It was meant to be absurd people. Geesh.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 27, 2009 -> 10:48 AM) They (does'nt even matter what country) need to get someone(s) in there to take out the leadership of that country. Then, expose the masses to the realities of the world around them and what could be available to them. Show them what life is like in countries where the ruler doesn't sacrifice the welfare of his people in exchange for absolute rule and fanatic ideologies. Send in aid and back a conservative, pro-western person(s) to lead the country. Reverse propagandize it to show the people of the country that we aren't teh bad guys, but that those who used to "lead" them were. Exposing the people of NK to what life is like even in SK would lead to the downfall of that government. That's why I believe NK invading any country would be a failure for them. The only option they are going to have is to use the nuclear devise.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 27, 2009 -> 10:44 AM) Ludwick QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 27, 2009 -> 10:46 AM) The White Sox acquired Jim Kaat on waivers. Great that is two players in forty years. Man I can't believe I would be willing to give Fields a chance over a minor league free agent. By the way, when should we start playing DeWayne Wise over Carlos Quentin. Yeah, I need to walk away now.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 27, 2009 -> 10:43 AM) None, but does it really matter? Players get over looked all the time. It's not like Nix is some 30 year old guy who has bounced around from team to team not doing anything. Colorado needed to make room, and Nix fizzled out with them. Apparently no other teams wanted to risk giving someone who has had only like 20 major league AB's a major league contract. Makes sense to me. I wouldn't have given a major league contract either, he didn't do anything to earn one. But that doesn't mean, "Oh he sucks, because no one signed him to a major league contract" etc. That's just foolish. Well we can't judge him by what he hits in the majors, according to you anyway, we can't judge him by the fact no one wanted him, anything else that goes contra to your argument that you want to disqualify for Nix? I can't believe I am actually arguing with you again. I am an idiot.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 27, 2009 -> 10:42 AM) I agree with your point, and chances are Nix won't be an All Star, but there are exceptions. Bobby Jenks. Guys like Abreu and Santana were rule 5 guys so in essence they were on waivers. Magglio was exposed to the rule 5 while a White Sox farmhand, and nobody took him, but its very rare. Not a single one of those guys was exposed to waivers after major league experience. Nix was. Still no one wanted him. Comparing drafts, minor leaguers and major leaguers are three different things and sets of circumstances.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 27, 2009 -> 09:46 AM) I believe its the home team's call. Up until the game starts it is. After that it is in the umps hands.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 27, 2009 -> 10:38 AM) Yeah, Pujols sucks. Come on, he wasn't drafted until the 13th round! And Mark Buehrle especially sucks, he wasn't drafted until the 38th round. Oh, can't forget about Johan Santana and Dan Uggla! They are so bad, their original teams didn't even feel they were good enough to make the 40 man roster. How many of those guys were released, placed on waivers, not signed by any team, and signed to a minor league contract?

QUOTE (Palehosefan @ May 27, 2009 -> 10:11 AM) I don't know if Quentin by himself would be enough for Cain. But I would also NOT like to see Cain's flyball style pitching inside the cell and it costing us Quentin or some combination of our Birmingham guys.

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 27, 2009 -> 09:45 AM) BearSox is... well... over the top (as usual) but he does have a point. Nix's sample size is small, and he is an inexperienced former first-round pick with sporadic ABs, so his low batting average can be misleading. If he's made improvements, it won't show that way unless he plays every day. It's the same logic Anderson supporters use. His sample size is small because he isn't that good! If there were people that really believed in him, one of the worst teams in baseball wouldn't have released him, and all of the teams wouldn't have passed on him. You could argue sample size just as easily for Fields if wanted to. And like I said, Nix is getting the advantage of being matched up where he can succeed best, versus Fields who is out there everyday.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ May 27, 2009 -> 10:08 AM) Who did Murph have on, Cowley? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/giants...;entry_id=40632 Essentially they are talking about a Quentin type hitter for Cain? LOL.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 27, 2009 -> 09:32 AM) Of course. Do you think he actually will? And if he actually can, don't you think that us invading would prompt him to try? I think the current course of action would be a mistake if Il was 25 years old, healthy, and had a population that wasn't in such dire straights. As it is though, he's about to die, we'll get new leadership, and try a new path. If that works, great. If not, then we start talking other options. That's my view, anyway. I think he is more likely to do something stupid with nothing to lose, than with his whole life in front of him.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 27, 2009 -> 09:25 AM) But in the meantime, Seoul and other western-aligned areas in the region get blitzed by a metric f***-ton of artillery, China gets all up in arms, there is a chance you don't get all the nukes and they get some out or whatever, and then you have the power vacuum problem. I dislike the current approach too, but an invasion would be a massive mistake. Let me ask this. Will more people die when Il decides to use a nuclear device?

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 27, 2009 -> 09:16 AM) It still doesn't matter, it's been 40 AB's. But if you really want stats, here's a stat: In less than 1/3 the amount AB's, Nix has 1 more homer than Fields. I didn't think much of Nix when we first signed him either. But he has shown a very good approach and swing, and he is earning the right to get some playing time to show what he does have. Fields has had his chance this year, and he has sucked. If we want to put a competitive and young team out there, we gotta look in a different direction than Josh at 3B. Putting him in situations too succeed? A lot of ball players don't succeed unless they have consistent AB's. It's tough for a lot of players to go in cold and just hit. Also, was the pitcher last night not one of the Angels top starters? And Fields hasn't shown s*** vs. anyone. So even when he is facing crappy pitchers, he still doesn't hit. So essentially your answer is that we can't look at any results in Nix's, so the fact that Nix hasn't been any better this year doesn't matter, it is just that according you he looks better. There is no point in arguing with anti-logic like that. Go ahead with your pitchforks and torches, because there is no point in trying to talk intelligently to you about this.

The Hawks have been down 3-1 in the playoffs 8 times in their history. 7 of them the lost in game 5, the 8th they lost in game 6.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 27, 2009 -> 09:02 AM) Fine, keep telling yourself that a .194 average means anything when a player has had only 36 AB's, and might I add 36 sporadic AB's. Lets say Nix goes on a little hot streak and goes 8 for his next 15 AB's. His average will already be over .300. But again, that doesn't really mean s***. It is idiotic to use average as any type of indicator of how a hitter is in only 36 AB's. It is equally idiotic to boast about a high average in 36 AB's as well. The earliest BA is relevant is past 100 AB's. It's not a matter of bias. Nix looks a whole lot better up there than Fields. Nix looks nice and relaxed up there with a good stance and good approach with a nice swing. Fields is all tight and wound up at bat, with a bad approach and a looooooooong swing. If that's not looking better at plate, I don't know what is. And there is no reason not to think Nix has a ton of potential in his own right. Former 1st round pick who was a highly regarded prospect. He fizzled out in Colorado, but then again, Colorado had to get rid of someone with all the MI they have now. And he is still only 26, going on to 27 in August. And so far, Nix is showing some of those tools that made him such a highly regarded prospect. Good speed, great range defensively, and really good power. Um, its not like he was killing Fields in any of the other statistical catetgories either... In reality if Nix were THAT good, the Sox weren't going to get him on a minor league contract. I trust major league baseball GMs over your opinion. Also realize that the biggest hole your "sporadic" AB argument has in it, is that the team is putting Nix into games specificly picked to give him the best opportunity to succeed. Fields is going out there every day against all tough pitching. It is exceeding idiotic to not recognize that fact at all. Nix was batting .194 with this built in bonus. Imagine if he was in there facing tough top of the line guys instead of all cherry picked chances.

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 26, 2009 -> 09:28 PM) The problem is that unlike Saddam, Kim Il-Jong (or whichever son you believe will be the successor) may believe his own cult of personality that he is invincible and may be willing to send thousands to there deaths without even caring about crippling the country. Im not sure how strong the North Korean army is, I dont think anyone is. I just dont think that attacking North Korea is advisable. The relative strength of their army IS the whole point here. If their army is a paper tiger, just like Iraq, it will lead them to fold quickly, just like I believe they would.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 26, 2009 -> 07:19 PM) Matt Wieters is getting the call. He'll be up for Friday's game vs the Tigers. Can't wait to see him in action. HOpefully he gets hot right away.

QUOTE (WCSox @ May 26, 2009 -> 10:27 PM) Since completing a deal for Peavy clearly means that the Sox are going for it NOW (rather than next year when Thome and Dye are gone, or the following year when Paulie is gone), methinks that Kenny would be perfectly fine with a lesser financial commitment to an older pitcher like Oswalt. Is dealing for Peavy necesarily going for it "now"? The guy is signed through 2012 and most likely would have an option picked up for '13. This guy stabilizes our team for years.

QUOTE (sox1844 @ May 26, 2009 -> 08:42 PM) I don't know... just by talking to other fans, listening to different media outlets, I just get the impression that Ozzie is an absolute clown, the total laughingstock of baseball. I mean, I'm just wondering what the feeling is inside the business rather than just fans. I was just wondering if you actually knew of any player who openly loves Ozzie, rather than just NOT bashing him. Know what I'm saying? You just never know the inside stories ... I just wonder if Ozzie wasn't at the helm if we would have had a better chance at Peavy. The media outlets who think Ozzie is a clown are the out of town ones who are too stupid to realize that they are tools in the game of motivating his players. Ozzie is very calculated in his meltdowns, you do notice that they never happen when things are going good, right?

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 26, 2009 -> 09:06 PM) B freaking S. Anyone with any baseball knowledge at all will tell you that Nix has looked about 100x better than Fields has at bat. Nix has had what, not even 40 AB's? And he already has the same amount of homers as Fields. Nix has had sparatic AB's, and still looks a whole ton better than Fields. He still K'd 3 times yesterday and had another weak AB. So what, he ran into a couple. Talk to me when he shows any resemblance of a baseball player and I might reconsider my opinion of him. Until last night Nix was hitting .194. The idea that we should be benching someone who was hitting .215, for someone who was batting .194 is laughable. The whole "looks 100X's better" is your bias. Neither has looked good so far, but only one has the potential to amount to something significant. Fields actually has had results at the major league level, Nix's best is far short of that. Fields might not work out, but Nix is a joke as an answer.

So raise your hands if you though the Sox would take the first two games of this series...

Two questions... Will Wise be ready now? And #2, will 15 days on the DL help Q that much if this injury is going to slow him down all year anyway?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 26, 2009 -> 08:35 PM) Another oddity is that Wiki is inconsistent on the numbers, from its article "Gulf War": That number has Iraqi forces at 550k, not even close to the 1mil number in the other article. I tried to locate both books, but have been unable to. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/...ersian-Gulf-War Encyclopedia Brittanica puts the number at: The coalition that fought it also most likely outnumbered it: It is my belief that the North Korean army outnumbers the Iraqi army even in 1991 after further review of the facts. Let me ask you this... Do you believe NKs published numbers? This would mean that fully one in twenty people in the entire country is serving in the army, and one in about 15 from ages 15-64. Especially with the complete lack of food and fuel, to me it is a falacy to really believe that they could mobilize even anything but a fraction of that one million people into a war, without crippling their country more than it already is.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 26, 2009 -> 05:08 PM) His first hit was the hardest hit ball he hit for a while. He was looking fastball, got it, and actually hit it. That second hit though, that's a pitch Fields has always handled. Speier really sucks, he has nothing. I don't remember him being so bad in Toronto. With all due respect, so what? He hit a ball really hard. In Chicago it would have been a homer. You have to start somewhere, and to have Fields squaring up and hitting the ball hard is a good thing for him and team, which is the most important thing. I know you have a thing against Fields, but the team really has no REAL substitute for him until Dayan Viciedo is ready, which could be next year. I don't want to hear Beckham, because the team themselves have said he isn't ready, nor Nix, because he is hitting worse than Josh.