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QUOTE (Disco72 @ May 28, 2009 -> 07:18 PM) I thought the 80% rule was only for arbitration. Isn't there a way the Sox could re-sign him without the arbitration rules? (this should be obvious to me, but I can't think right now) The could resign him before arbitration. Or the Sox could offer him arbit, and if he declines, they can still negotiate with them.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 28, 2009 -> 07:09 PM) It was a despicable act. Should have been a 10-15 game suspension. The worst thing is how many young Cubs fans idolize Zambrano, and they probably think it was cool. 6 games is a joke. He bumps and ump and endangers people twice by chucking the baseball and taking the bat to the gatorade machine.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 28, 2009 -> 05:34 PM) Huh? We're increasing the auto industry budget? Sure we are. Who the heck do you think is financing all of this? Santa Claus?

Nobody has mentioned Don Cooper calling Zambrano an asshole and saying that his antics wouldn't be tolerated on the Sox?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 28, 2009 -> 10:57 AM) Except...at the same time as we're closing down some of those programs...we're also increasing the overall defense budget. Same with the auto industry.

QUOTE (chw42 @ May 28, 2009 -> 12:11 PM) Totally and he should get suspended. I don't care who bumped who first, thing is, he mocked the home plate umpire, threw the ball almost out of play, and then beat up a Gatorade machine. I honestly don't think the last one matters for the suspension, but I think the first two, along with the bump, should be enough. I'd say 6 games seems about right. touching an ump is an automatic suspension, its why Dye is getting two games for his helment bouncing back and getting the ump on accident. With Z being a starting pitcher, I think we are going to see something in the 10-12 game range, when you include the throwing of the ball, the bumping of the ump, and the show in the dugout.

QUOTE (G&T @ May 28, 2009 -> 09:45 AM) By the way, for anyone who questions Terry Boers' baseball knowledge or contacts (and there were a few in the Marquez thread), he said back in March Beckham would make it to the majors as a third baseman this season based on what he heard from his guys. IMO, the fact that the Sox had this plan in March speaks to the Sox thoughts on Fields. If the Sox had this in their plans in March, why did it take them until the end of May to do something about it? I don't buy it for a second. If they really thought Beckham would help them at third, they would have put him at 3B in AA, and Viciedo at AAA, or vice versa.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ May 28, 2009 -> 07:34 AM) I'm passed the point of being pissed I am pissed that you aren't pissed.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 27, 2009 -> 11:53 PM) Awesome how Lou is talking about how Carlos needs to "tone it down." Fatass hypocrite needs to look in the mirror. The next sentence of the quote Lou pretty says as much.

The sad thing is you could take many of the bolded arguments to the auto industry, and yet we were ready, and are ready, to keep throwing money down the drain there, while adding more costly restrictions to the industry.

Great game by the Hawks. I wish they had played that whole series like that. The boys can be proud of the way they went out tonight. Great season, I can't wait for next year.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ May 27, 2009 -> 08:30 PM) 1-0 in the deflection. Ugh. Great play by Cleary on the deflection. I was just telling my wife that we need to get someone in front of the net for a deflect because we weren't going to beat ossie one on one. Ugh.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2009 -> 04:26 PM) 3-0 in 4 starts with a 0.34 ERA. 14 hits, 5 walks, 25 strikeouts in 26 innings against us. Yeah, I don't think I am staying up for this one...

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ May 27, 2009 -> 07:46 PM) Haren's contract: 2009: $7.5M 2010: $8.25M 2011: $12.75M 2012: $12.75M 2013: $15.5M ($3.5M buyout) Ah, I was thinking of Webb. My mistake.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 27, 2009 -> 04:30 PM) I'd trust guys like JPN, scenario, rex hudler etc.. They know their stuff. Word. Soxtalk has incredible people throughout the minor league system.

This game is all about the men between the pipes. It has been nice to see Huet playing like a six million dollar goalie. The last twenty ought to be interesting. The Hawks have had their chances, but Os is standing on his head.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 27, 2009 -> 07:00 PM) Its not like he's making $15 million a year. If he was available for the same price that Peavy could be had, considering you know he's been successful in the AL, his contract is at least $20 million cheaper if not more, because as far as I know doesn't have a NTC, KW would have been a fool to agree to trade for Peavy instead of Haren. There's probably a 99.99% chance he's not getting traded, and if the .01 % does come to fruition KW is going to have to empty the Birmingham roster to even have a chance. BTW, they aren't losing $40-50 million a year unless you're using Jerry Reinsdorf's accountant The Arizona Diamondbacks are valued at $390 million, placing the franchise 19th out of the 30 teams in Major League Baseball, according to Forbes annual list of team valuations released Thursday. That’s up 3 percent from last year, as the D-backs received a boost from their television contract with Fox Sports Arizona and a successful year on the field. The team challenged the Los Angeles Dodgers for the National League West crown for most of the year, before faltering at the end of the season. According to Forbes research, the D-backs brought in $177 million in the 2008 season. Two years ago, the team signed a reported eight-year, $250 million deal with Fox Sports Arizona, among the most lucrative deals in baseball. They also only have Haren for a year and a half, which is a huge consideration for how much you have to give up to get a pitcher. Peavy the Sox would control until 2013. Also the D'backs financial problems have been long documented. I did appreciate the completely one sided postings from Forbes though. Googling the actual FULL STORY gives a very different picture. The team made $3.9 million last year. The big huge $177 million you posted is gross income, I am sure you know the difference. That was before having an only 84% renewal as quoted in the article I looked up, plus their attendance is down a full 10% this year versus last. The interesting part of what you posted in the TV deal is they get 150 games, where as most teams have a much bigger split up of games, which is what leads to the "most lucrative". They get the most games out of any deal, so they pay more than most. The other interesting part you left out is that the network sells all of the advertising during those games, which means the team sees none of that money, unlike most teams in professional sports, which also leads the deal to be worth more, as the team is losing out on that revenue stream. We have also had the debate over what team valuation actually means... nothing. That isn't income, profit, capital... nothing. That is a number of a piece of paper. GM is worth billions, it doesn't mean they are worth a dime. It is a terrible argument for if a team is losing money or not. http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/18/magazines/...rtune/index.htm

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 27, 2009 -> 03:55 PM) Ya, that was another name I was going to throw out. I think if the Dbacks were smart they'd package him in a Haren deal. That is of course if they are looking to just clear payroll. If they are looking to get the most talent package and money isn't much of an object its another story. For example, even if the Dbacks paid a significant portion of Byrnes salary and gave us Haren, we'd be talking about a much smaller packaeg for Haren. Would the Sox do it, probably not, but again, it might be the only way to get Haren without giving up our top 3 or 4 prospects. Does Byrnes play CF?

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 27, 2009 -> 03:18 PM) Is Webb hurt this year? They said yesterday Webb is beginning long toss and working up to be able to start a rehab assignment.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 27, 2009 -> 02:54 PM) The Padres have to trade Peavy or trim a lot of payroll elsewhere. The D-Backs don't have to trade Harden, and he's signed for a lot less money. I'd take either of them, but there is no way Poreda and Richard and a couple of lower level prospects get you Harden. The Diamondbacks might not be under a public mandate to cut salary, but they have been losing $40-50 million a year when the economy was good. With them having a bad time, there very well could be a quiet look into a large salary dump down there.

Are they actually moving him to 3B? Is that official, or just speculation?

I would bet Cabrera has an elbow or shoulder surgery in the next six months.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 27, 2009 -> 12:43 PM) There are no real implications that Kim Il-Jong will actually use a nuclear weapon. (Damn posted before I was done) My guess is that they want it for "deterrence" in that if they have one other countries are less likely to invade for fear of atomic reprisal. Nukes arent that great for offense unless you have a lot of them. If NK nuked some one it would kill a lot of people, but also be the end of NK, so not sure why they would do that for no reason. Second, Im not always sure that "if people see how others live" theyll immediately change. North Vietnam was well aware of how South Vietnam lived (to the point where thousands if not millions starved to death in NK because of rice not being shipped in large enough amounts from the South to North), but at the end of the day they preferred communism, because it was the communists who had fought off the west and gained Vietnam's independence, not the democrats. Im not that familiar with Korea's history. So I am not going to sit here thousands of miles away and believe that my way of live is better and that all that it takes is people to see it and theyll change. My way of life is 1 way, maybe not the best, maybe not the worst. NK has no idea how the rest of the world lives. Their have been millions of people starve to death there, and there are still people starving every day in high numbers. Their average height has actually fallen to inches shorter than their SK counterparts because of the perpetual malnutrition that goes on there. You can trick people into fighting for many reasons, religion is usually the most effective, but not having anything to eat is the quickest way to get people to drop your particular cause.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 27, 2009 -> 09:51 AM) SO you are saying you think DT is going to be fired after taking the Hawks to the conference finals after probably the largest franchise turnaround in sports history? I wouldn't be surprised to see a Paxson type move, where Tallon moves upstairs, and Dudley takes over the day to day GM duties under the eye of Scottie Bowman.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 27, 2009 -> 12:05 PM) I would love that. Reason being... its brilliant. he's not very good now, we all know that... but luol deng's contract is horrible and he's signed for like 4 years after this. So we'd lose that contract and get to enjoy funny Shaq quotes for a year. I'd like to have a center with a jumper in the VDN offense, but short of that, having a guy that will collapse the D onto the block is a nice alternative, especially if we get Gordon back to shoot on the outside.