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Paulsen, Pay Cut
QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 31, 2006 -> 08:57 AM) Goldman Sachs is a bunch of smoke and mirrors, at least from my dealings with them. Believe me, they're just like any other "company". I was employed for a company that was bought by GMSA and was promised that no layoffs would occur. I was in the unemployment line in 3 months, and within a year 29 of the 30 people in our office were gone.
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Dog question
QUOTE(Soxy @ May 31, 2006 -> 08:25 AM) A mutt. One of my friend's parents own a pet store and they take in stray litters give em their shots and sell them for $5. The one I'm (hopefully) getting is a girl after all (phew). My friend's mom apparently can't quite tell what kind of dog it is, she thinks a lab with something else. So, I would say I am looking into the ultimate designer one-of-a-kind dog. QUOTE(Steff @ May 31, 2006 -> 08:33 AM) Ginger is a mutt (saved her from the animal welfare) and she's just turned out to be the best dog I've ever owned. Mutts are the best.
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Pierzynski-Barrett brawl....with legos
QUOTE(Texsox @ May 31, 2006 -> 08:12 AM) The only thing that would make her blog better was to be a Sox fan. I find her to be funny and usually original. To be honest, there was no Sox fan doing anything nearly this funny or creative until the Palehose Six emerged from the briney fogs. I still think she is hilarious dispite the fact she hates the Sox.
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And we're off....
And we haven't even seen official start of the season yet...
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Happy Birthday Sox4lifePA
Happy Birthday whereever you have been hiding out you SOB
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Happy Birthday WhiteSoxfan99 and Pale Hose John
Happy Belated Boys
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Clemens Good For Baseball
QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 30, 2006 -> 10:37 PM) Nope doesn't make things all better at all. And I don't ALWAYS go off the deep end, however anytime I step out I do get ripped on like crazy, not always justified (to me, Clemens is pretty obvious). That's all. I'd like to see the lack of regression after testing began to be explained then. I would also like to hear how he stayed so healthy over the years while juicing and playing the most injury prone position even without steroids?
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List of Potential Draft and Follow Candidates
Excellent research guys
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For Dems only.
So I guess everyone owes Anthony Scalia an apology then, right?
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Condo selling question
To be honest I am kind of shocked, because usually the banks will "appraise" the property to make sure the mortgage gets done, even if they should not do so. Most appraisers are in bed with the banks so they kept getting used (ie paid) and they give the banks whatever they are looking for.
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Jon Garland poll.
QUOTE(Felix @ May 30, 2006 -> 02:40 PM) Except Burnett is an above average pitcher, he's just injury prone. Again, above average pitcher, just injury prone. How can you be considered above average when you know that they aren't going to contribute for a part of almost every season, if not longer. At the end of the day their numbers are going to be comparable to an average pitcher who is around every start.
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Condo selling question
The downpayment doesn't matter. The bank can't legally be involved in a mortgage where the purchase price is bigger than the appraisal.
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Bush, Where does he go from here?
Maybe he buys the Cubs? I dunno how else he could become more hated...
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Today's Palehose Six
That would be the s***... as the kids used to say.
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Today's Palehose Six
I luv Palehose 6
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Couple of interesting Soccer stories...
Ukranian soccer players offered Sex if they make it to World Cup Semis $120 million not enough to lure Renaldo to USA for soccer
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Hello Mr. Anderson
QUOTE(Tony82087 @ May 30, 2006 -> 11:24 AM) Manager Ozzie Guillen backed off earlier statements about Brian Anderson being on the verge of heading to Triple-A. ''It's not fair for the kid to think he has to play good [every at-bat],'' Guillen said. "We need him. He's a big part of the ballclub. Hopefully, he'll go out there and show some improvement." Per Roto I am glad to hear that...
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Global Warming, Fossil Fuels, Big Oil, Bush Family
- Amusement parks DROPPING prices :0
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/05/29/theme...g.ap/index.html- For GOP only
Harry Reid Ethics Violator.- Mexican government = hypocrites.
QUOTE(Texsox @ May 30, 2006 -> 08:21 AM) Reader's Digest Version: #1 paragraph 1, Agree 100% #1 paragraph 2, Disagree. This is not the American dream of better lives for our children. It condems our education system and with our low unemployment rate, pulling people from more desirable careers would cause more immigration of those jobs or outsourcing overseas. Remember, our unemployment rate is very low. #2 Doesn't matter who is working those jobs, the benefits will remain the same. So why don't we raise everyone's minimum wage so they can contribute in taxes? Let's do it now. We have many millions more than just these workers. No matter the literacy rate, fruit pickers, unless we raise minimum wage, will never generate a positive tax flow to the government. That is the cost of living in a first world country. #3 Conditions would need to improve far better when second and longer generation Americans are working these jobs. Which is why my plan to tie immigration to jobs makes the most sense. A willing work force is better. How long will you stay at a job for the money? Most everyone here who has the opportunity (sorry Nuke) has made a job change in the past couple years, or come close. Why? For working conditions, and other job satisfaction issues, not always money. We should improve the working conditions, which by the way, are already much better than in previous generations. I am proud of your Ceasar Chavez like position. Again, controlled, legal immigration is the answer. Not raising wages until our children will take the jobs or a pourous border. Further fod for thought. This is about the least desirable jobs in America and the people to work them. Physical labor is hard work, very demanding. No parent wants their child to grow up to pick oranges, mow lawns, or process chickens. This is especially true if the children have been educated in US schools. For many decades, especailly since WW2, immigrants have done this work as a toe hold into America. The dream is their children stand on their shoulders and make a better life for themselves. During that time our economy has become the largest in the world. Our unemployment rate is very low, controlled, legal immigration just makes sense. Trying to entice people to work these jobs, just doesn't make sense. Why pound a square peg in a round hole? Why tell Americans that after 12 years of a US education, you should be picking fruit? Have you abandoned the American education system? Are you telling parents to abondon the thought of a better life for their kids? Should we hear a parent say I know I am an accountant son, but you will just have to pick fruit? Is that what America will become? What about the American dream of a better life for our children? Why replace a willing workforce with one that has to be enticed? Someone would be working those jobs. The government benefits would be paid to whomever was working those jobs. Of course if we pay people above the poverty line, that would be a mute point, but the GOP is against any hikes in minimum wage. No, the problem is this; we allowed uncontrolled immigration. Controlled immigration, tied to jobs, is the best path for America. It is best for our economy, it is best for our close ally. Remember, the US still has its own share of high school dropouts. We aren't talking about taking college graduates and putting them into day labor. There are those who are underemployed and would be willing to trade up to higher paying jobs. There are plenty of people working at Wal-Mart for $7 an hour, who might consider manuel labor if it paid $15 an hour, but can't since people are working illegally for $5. Its not just an "UN"employment thing, there is also the "under"employment aspect of things. People get past working in certian professions when the pay is right. Taking someones job doesn't necesarily mean that person is unemployed instead of having that particular job. Remember the employment rate consists of anyone who has worked at least one hour in the previous week, and doesn't include the underemployed, those who don't want to be working where they are, and the chroncially unemployed (ie longer than 6 months). You are also reading too far into my writings. I am still not advocating any change in the minimum wage. I am advocating that the system determine what is a fair wage for an occupation.- Snow Day!
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialne...me_down&chan=db- 2006 White Sox Catch-All Thread
QUOTE(Dick Allen @ May 29, 2006 -> 08:14 PM) This isn't 2006 White Sox, but White Sox related. I saw a little bit of the 5 reasons you can't blame someone show on ESPN and they had it about Babe Ruth being sold to the Yankees. What they said was Ruth wasn't going to play for Boston anymore and the Red Sox had 2 choices, either sell Ruth to the Yankees, or the other deal on the table was to trade him to the White Sox for Shoeless Joe Jackson. This was months before there was any knowledge of any Jackson involvement with the Black Sox scandal. How different White Sox history would have been. I wonder what number Harold Baines would have been. Wow. Its incredible to think how different things could have been for all 3 involved franchises.- Ozzie goes off
QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 30, 2006 -> 12:18 AM) What the f*** ever. Just go back and f***ing post your worthless s*** ass posts. Maybe someday you'll reach your full potential of posting something worth reading. You haven't posted anything meaningful in about 20,000 posts. Wake the f*** up... Just don't send me back to the AA of posting, the ESPN boards- Mexican government = hypocrites.
QUOTE(Texsox @ May 29, 2006 -> 05:06 AM) As I've been saying for weeks and just a couple posts ago, US - highly skilled workforce, low unemployment, no desire for manual labor. Mexico - unskilled workforce, high unemployment, strong desire to improve life for themselves and their children Mexicans help themselves by finding work. They use this helping hand to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and create a better life for themselves and their children. With legal status, which comes after a careful screening and time in this country, they do not have to remain a permanent underclass. Wow, and it benefits both countries. Immigration levels are set by US employment needs. After systems are in place, illegals receive a lifetime ban, first time is a quick trip home, second time involves jail, third strike and welcome to a federal prison. Employers are heavily fined for employing undocumented workers or employing workers off the books. The world is now 24/7. Kids aren't mowing the local office complex, they aren't bussing tables at noon, and they aren't picking crops from Florida to Maine. You think the agriculture industry can supports itself on high school kids? Or some high school kids walks up to Allstate Insurance and asks if he can mow the lawn? These aren't part time jobs. Immigrants have been taking these jobs for many decades. Remember Reagan and amnesty? We are just now waking up and seeing what is going on. Nice high school memories, but they aren't accurate of the total job market. I'm for traditional American values, like any good conservative. Not the liberal new fangled, Americans can do these jobs, solution you propose So your solution is millions of high school kids start taking these jobs? I belive mine is better for America. Does it really benefit the US long term though? My answer would be probably not. #1 this is another form of coroporate welfare. The mantra goes something like "the illegals are working jobs American's don't want to work", while leaving out the economic trueism "at an artificially low wage" Of course no one wants to pick fruit for $3 an hour, but would they do it for $7 an hour? Would they do it for minimum wage plus health insurance? Take construction, which is another huge field of work for illegals. Typically someone will need a project done, so they take the pick up down to the gathering spot, pick how many people they need for the job, and take them back to the job site. Also they typically pay much less than their appropriate union group would allow their workers to be paid, and with no benefits, as we are talking about cash under the table labor, which is just dropped back off when the job is done. In the process they circumvent pretty much 230 years of American labor history in the process. People died to get 40 hour work weeks, minimum wage, safe workplaces etc, and all it takes is a virtual slave class that you are basically endorsing to emerge to make all of that worthless. I am not much of a fan of unions, but they have a purpose. As for the not wanting our kids to work certian jobs, I say too bad. Who wanted to be a garbage man when they were little? Who wanted to work in the sewers? I would venture to guess pretty much no one... but guess what, these industries were forced to pay high wages to attract people to otherwise undesirable positions of employment. It is economic fact that if no one wants to work a certian job, its because the wage is too low for what is being asked. If the wages are made to conform to real supply and demand eventually there will be American fruit pickers, housecleaners, and day laborers. #2 our social services in the US are spread thin enough, does anyone really think the Social Security system for example, could take on another 12 million people? Could the government (ie you and me) afford health insurance for another 12 million people, who most likely have minimal to no health care prior to their arrival here, simply judging by if they were well taken care of they wouldn't have needed to risk their lives to get to the US in the first place. If the literacy rate you mentioned of 60% is true, we aren't talking about wage earns who are going to pay more into the system than they take out anyway. #3 As citizens, don't think for a second we are looking at the status quo for these employees. They will be able to demand better working conditions, fair wages, in addition to social services, and that all costs money. The only alternative to that is to continue the porus border program of importing just ever cheaper labor, which to be honest looks like it will probably happen anyway, as I have yet to be convinced that any suggestions are either tough enough, or will be properly enforced. - Amusement parks DROPPING prices :0