southsider2k5

Oh dang, the MLBPA Is on it.

Now this is typically accurate.

I can't imagine being this bitter. If I truly thought that, I would be out the door, and have been.

Considering compensation seems to be tax deductible, I would say the opposite. They are trying to find more things to deduct.

He's screwed then as he needs to figure out how to find half a billion for Ohtani really quick.

Good luck with that.

So realistically, the number wasn't even what they said it was if they are bulking it up by hiding other things in it. Crooks.

So he at least seemed to learn something from 1994.

Was going to say the same thing. One of the last names I expected to see.

That's thousand, not million. And also you know what affect low wages players even more? Getting the number the players are asking for. I also am curious why literally with the people with the most to lose and the highest costs to absorb have no pressure here? Players have mortgages, but owners have bond payments and debt service with a lot more zeros. They will also start losing TV contracts and ad dollars.

There is a ton of reporting about owners being willing to cancel at least a months worth of games that states otherwise. But the best way to get there is to start canceling games to prove a point. Now the players aren't the bad guys for holding out for what they want because the owners l9cked them out.

But I was told the players would fold.

This is me. If I am not watching, I have the radio on, or am looking at my phone... Maybe all of the above.

The players are still trying to make up the losses they have suffered in the last 20 years. It isn't that complex. While the owners offered some "improvements", they weren't nearly the improvements which will keep in line with what the revenue gains have been, and certainly will be in the coming years with the revenue streams they are opening. They players expected more, and asked for more. So while the owners finally moved off of their small increases to minimum wages, the players asks were even higher. With 70% of players in that under $1 million per season bracket, those numbers not only become a lot of players defacto paychecks, they also set the middle salaries by establishing a floor. They wanted move than a "move in the right direction" they wanted a move that is commiserate with the new revenues coming into baseball. That's a fair ask. Working under the old deal would have allowed them both to keep negotiating while playing and moving forward. They weren't going to keep that deal forever. It is an extremely common technique in labor negotiations which aren't poisoned to work under the conditions of the old deal until a new one can be reached. The typical action after that is to go back and make up the differences once that deal is reached. It wasn't about keeping the old deal, it was about not unnecessarily stopping baseball to force the player negotiations capitulation, which has now failed. We are now at Day 92, and having had the first cancellation of baseball in 27 years.

Based on the initial owners offerings, I have no doubt the players would have kept playing under the old system.