Rex Kickass

We are so obviously going to be a center right country. Because John Kerry only got the second highest vote total in presidential history - even more than Ronald Reagan. Let's put this "landslide" into perspective. George Bush won reelection of any reelected president by the least number of votes since Harry Truman. Only 50 million people voted in that election. More people voted for Bush's opponent in 2004 than voted for Bush in 2000. Assuming NM and IA go Bush's way, Bush would have won the fewest percentage of Electoral Votes (54%) of a re-elected president since Woodrow Wilson. That's no landslide, that's no mandate. That's, by definition, a narrow victory.

Not brain dead. Either in a coma, or just dead.

The one telling thing about the liberal media, most people missed. Ed Gillespie, chair of the RNC, let it slip that Tom Brokaw campaigned for Thune, the Republican challenger to Tom Daschle in South Dakota, where he's from. CNN had election coverage. Fox News not so much. I think thats why the numbers for Fox/CNN battle narrowed over the night. I think a lot of people are realizing that Fox has an agenda - and I think a backlash is starting. It won't erase their ratings lead, but it will probably dwindle somewhat. I'll say this. CNN.com and NewsNight with Aaron Brown, is clearly a superior Television product.

Most of these same sex marriage amendments banned civil unions too. I believe the Ohio one specifically barred giving any kind of equal right to gay couples in the state. That's not morality, that's bigotry. If the state wants to call it something different, that's fine by me. I think all civil marriages are really civil unions anyway. You get married in the church.

He said, states should be free to have civil unions, not that he supported it. So don't expect much. Gay marriage isn't a moral issue. Not so much as any other equal rights issue. In most states, it is legal to fire gay people for being gay. Or suspected for being gay. In most states, equal housing laws do not apply to gay people. Gay marriage is a figleaf issue. It was not a priority of gay activist groups until the movement to outlaw the possibility was taken up by the right. I don't remember the conversation before then. Why would you do that? It's a reverse slippery slope. Nobody has a problem with making sure gay people can keep their job if the boss finds out he's gay. Nobody has a problem with making sure gay people can be expected to not be harassed by landlords and given fair and equal housing for being gay. Everyone has a problem with the magic word marriage. They feel threatened by it. But its not about marriage. Its about rights. And bigotry. Equal rights for equal people.

You know the best thing about Kerry? He didn't need a recount but he said he'd make sure every vote was counted, and he waited til every vote that could change the election was counted. He kept his word to the American people, and he stepped aside - even though he could have conceivably fought. That's being completely honorable and full of class.

I think at the very least, they ought to expand the electoral college and make it so there is one elector for every 50K of people or so. Its better than adjusting for Congressional districts.... because instead of your vote meaning less when the population expands, it would represent the same everywhere. 1/50,000 th of a vote.

I think I did that to a Hoobastank CD actually. What would the Hedwing and the Angry Inch CD taste like? Tacoweiners?

You know the best thing about that Portland article? I know the author.

He got more votes than Gore. And Gore got his base out.

Oh yeah, and I'm still classy too.

I don't feel screwed. I feel concerned. And determined. It wasn't enough for John Kerry to win the electoral vote. He had to win the popular vote too. He didn't. This doesn't make what I stand for any less valid. It just means we need to find the right message and perception. PERCEPTION and not ideas are sadly what elections have become about. Republicans have spent 40 years figuring this out, ever since Goldwater in 1964. We figured it out a year ago. Considering that at the GOP low point, they lost by 27 points in 64 - and we only lost by 3 - I'd say we're in better shape than you might think.

Can we get this thread back to about how awesomely classy I am? Seriously!

Seriously dude, that's a little extreme. And please, if you're going to make bold faced, outrageous statements - don't leave us the obvious ability to point out spelling errors. It's HOLOCAUST.

Neither am I. Bush won this election. And the Electoral College is preventing that from being the case. It's very unlikely, but still entirely possible that Ohio could narrow enough to call a recount with absentee and provisional balloting. That keeps us in limbo a lot longer than we should be.

Fortunately, I don't have to worry about the draft. I'm fat and with panic disorder. I'm the LAST guy they want crapping his pants in the trenches. I've already graduated and dropped out of college. (I did both, in that order) I just have to worry about the ability to be gay in America really. At least for myself.

I'll still fight the president's policies when he's wrong. But he was always my president from the day he got sworn in.

Bush is up by 3 and a half million votes nationwide and still maxes out at 289 electoral votes. A slight increase, but no electoral landslide to be sure. If we have a national mandate, like we sadly do, we oughta have a winner. One person, one vote. No more, no less.

I'll take it away.

Because I won. I got involved. I knocked doors, made phone calls - did my part for my cause. I gave up a day for democracy... and it was rewarding. The people I talked to energized me. They were glad someone took up their fight, their cause. It's not something I'm going to forget. I wanted to make positive change. And I'm going to make sure that I don't stop now. It's not about today, it's about tomorrow. The battle may be lost, but I'll win the war.

It's over. That's sad. Oh well.

Only 32% of the precincts for Cleveland's county has come in.

I meant one county. Sorry. Its been a long day.

Does the Florida vote count early voting?

Check that, Miami Dade FL Kerry has a 50,000 vote lead.