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Everything posted by Rex Kickass
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Schwarzenegger is making one stop for Bush on Friday. Whoopdees***. Polls at this point are meaningless. And sadly, there's fraud on both ends. There are some fraudulent voter registration problems in Ohio, yes. Part of the problem are counties, some of which republican, some of which democrat, failing to purge out duplicate registrations. It makes the system harder to manage. Flyers have been mysteriously distributed in Milwaukee to black people saying if you got a traffic ticket or anyone in your family got a traffic ticket, you can't vote and if you do, your family will be taken away from you. Nearly 60,000 absentee ballots were never delivered to Broward County residents in Florida. The county is heavily democratic. The Republican party will be sending 8,000 people to polls in minority precincts in Ohio to challenge every ballot they can. I remember when this was a real popular thing to do in minority districts. It was before 1960. The Florida Secretary of State, the person who certifies the vote in Florida, was a member of the Republican electoral college in 2000.
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Kerry landslide! It's the only thing keeping the migraine away.
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Let's review the scenarios: Pentagon: Russians helped Iraqis sneak it out of Iraq two days before the war. Here's a picture of a couple trucks at the base. So these weapons are gone, and with another hostile country, Syria - or were when we lost track of it. Based on Iraqi government, several IAEA officials and former weapons inspectors: The weaponry was still in Iraq when the US arrived and until the fall of the Iraqi regime. It was then carted off by looters. So these weapons are gone, and with terrorists or another hostile country, probably Iran, when we lost track of it. How are either of these scenarios excusable? Our goal was to disarm Saddam Hussein and make sure the WMD, which he didn't have, weren't given to terrorists. Along with that goal, it would seem that we would keep major weapons and research sites protected from looting to make sure that components that have dual-use, i.e. this explosive and Nuclear Waste from the Tuawitha facility were not used either. Maybe you forgot, we let the nuclear research facility get looted too. I remember seeing pictures of families who unknowingly took the empty barrells get radiation poisoning when they used the now empty barrels for water. The point that the government's case looks so shaky right now seems to point to a cover up. If they didn't know that the weapons were missing until last week, and then when that excuse doesn't fly, they blame the Russians... how does that make me believe that our administration is more intent on keeping me safe than keeping their jobs? In some ways, the government's story is SO MUCH WORSE. Not only were we both ignorant and incompetent, it means that the Russians beat us in this war, and we weren't even fighting them. That gives me sooo much more confidence in this commander in chief.
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Jason, I understand its just 1/10 of 1% of the weaponry. The problem is that this was the most powerful weaponry there was. And now its gone. 1 pound of this stuff cost several hundred lives when Pan Am's 747 went boom over Scotland. 380 tons equal 760 thousand pounds. 760 thousand Pan Am 103's. Think about that.
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Explosives were at Al-Qaqaa when the Army was.
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Our intelligence knew that these explosives were there. That's the problem. If we didn't know they were there because they were undeclared, that would be one thing, but the IAEA knew and warned the US government about the high explosives with dual use purpose in both March and May of 2003. KSTP in Minn/St. Paul was embedded with troops that went to Al-QaQaa on April 18, 2003. Not saying this is bulletproof evidence, but they found video of bunkers containing high explosives that look like this stuff untouched, and unbroken IAEA seals. If the seal number they captured matches the seal numbers that IAEA used for this explosives, then the facts are out, no matter what the Pentagon says.
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Beck: exactly! If weapons were moved out before our invasion to Syria or terrorists, how did this make us safer? Doesn't that incriminate this administration more? Does that we armed the same people we were trying to prevent to get arms?
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Actually, the problem is that Ryan paid a guy to follow Obama with a camera 24 hours a day to find something worth using in a commercial against him. When you do s*** that awful, it all becomes fair game. Ryan was a scumbag before his divorce records got unsealed.
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This is what, the administration's eighth different story on this? If we knew the Russians moved this into Syria in March 2003, why didn't we stop it? The only way out of AlCaCa was on the main highway to Baghdad. This route was under constant surveillance before the invasion. You can sit there and browbeat Kerry all you want for attacking the president because it appeared he, and his civilian war planners, were too incompetent to prevent looting from major weapons sites, or didn't account that Saddam Hussein would move weaponry out of the country before our invasion. If he did that, and we knew he did that, what was the point of invading? Didn't we go into Iraq to disarm Saddam Hussein? If that moved the weaponry elsewhere, why didn't we chase the weaponry? The point of this war was to make the world safer. If these high explosives and other powerful weapons left Iraq for Syria, we didn't make the world safer. We made it more dangerous. If we left ammo dumps to be looted by God knows whom, we didn't make the world safer. We made it more dangerous. George Bush justified this war by making sure this kind of weaponry would get out of the hands of those who would use it against us, namely Baathists and terrorists. Mission accomplished?
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When you get 9 million hits a day, its not the most economical thing to have high graphic quality.
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First US unit at Iraq site did not hunt explosives. Bush, Kerry slug it out over missing Iraqi explosives.
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Just teasin, yo.
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Jeez, and I was thinking his skin color was... wait, I never cared.
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Yes, but its WMD that Iraq was allowed Sox4Life under the UN resolutions we invaded to enforce. On that note, I agree. The public good is gone. We live in the sourest political times I can remember and November 3rd, no matter who the winner is, I will hold their feet to the fire to make sure they act in the public good. I just hope its the one who actually wants it too.
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Actually, we did that. Already. You don't think there wasn't a reward to joining the US Coalition? You mean Palau just did that for the glory? You think Pakistan would have helped us with Al-Qaida if it didn't mean getting sanctions revoked? You're pretty damn naive. Yeah, I care about America first. I'm justifying nobody's actions here Sox4Life. People involved in corruption with Oil For Food should be held accountable for their actions. People who start a war with faulty intelligence and fail to correct the mistakes we make on the way should be held accountable too. I got my own place Sox4Life. I love this country, thanks for questioning my patriotism.
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We're the richest country in the world and we couldn't buy those votes back? Seriously, if this is war we're talking about, why are we taking the high road here? And honestly, do you think that France would take a billion now rather than several billion down the road, especially when they knew an invasion was inevitable? Maybe they actually believed that the UN would only be effective in holding Saddam Hussein accountable if the UN was allowed to finish the job of inspecting the country for WMD. If the US is the most powerful and respected country in the world, we shouldn't have a problem getting a coalition of a significant size. You just have to play nice with others. Bush 41 didn't have a problem - and you don't think the same people were doing the same things then? Well, if it was moved - the time frame that it was moved under would have been less than a month - you don't think we would have maintained 24 hour satellite surveillance of the major ammunition dumps one week before a planned invasion? Especially the one where we thought we would find WMD? I'm just asking questions Sox4Life, you're just offering excuses.
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1 pound of this same material blew up the 747 over Lockerbie Scotland. We lost 760,000 pounds of it. And we knew it was there. How is it acceptable to search dog food factories for WMD and not protect the weaponry we already knew was there?
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I'm not going to parse words. Here's exactly what you said. I don't live in these other countries. I'm worried about America first. And frankly we went into an invasion without making sure all our ducks are in a row. How is that something you condone?
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Stop f***ing whining. Chaos. Bush's military record in 1972 was not an issue for me in choosing John Kerry. Kerry's military record in 1972 is not an issue for me in choosing John Kerry. George Bush's military record in 2003 and 2004 IS an issue for me. or maybe its this idea that helps me make my decision: Chief Justice Antonin Scalia
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Yes, because we should never consider the incumbent's record.
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This was one of the largest amunition dumps in Iraq, and it wasn't a priority to secure it. Even when it was being looted as we arrived there. Never mind the fact that a spot check one week before the invasion showed the seals still in place. But hey, let's play devil's advocate. So even if it wasn't there when we got there, the administration admitted yesterday, it never found out about this until last week. So instead of incompetence, it's just plain ignorance. That gives me sooo much more confidence in the Bush administration.
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So now, this is something I love. The same people who say we never needed those cheese eating surrender monkeys are now saying if we had their forces, we could have done the job right the first time. Nice justification. Sox4Life: you're choking on your own spin.
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Saying a three percent margin of error. It usually means that there's a 90 to 95 percent certainty of a 3 or 4 point margin of error. That means that a couple times out of twenty, you're likely to get bad data.
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CNN Story on Weapons 9:20 PM Tuesday CNN) -- The Bush administration's role in the apparent disappearance of nearly 380 tons of sophisticated explosives in Iraq remains in question Tuesday, a day after the White House pointed to an NBC report to quash the story. NBC News story on Weapons 6:55PM Tuesday On March 15, said Melissa Fleming, a spokeswoman for the IAEA, “the seals on the doors on the bunkers were checked at many of the bunkers to see if they were still there and hadn’t been tampered with, and that was the case.” The war in Iraq began March 20. Army officials told NBC News on condition of anonymity that troops from the Army’s 3rd Infantry did not arrive at Al-Qaqaa until April 4, finding “looters everywhere” carrying what they could out on their backs. The troops searched bunkers and found conventional weapons but no high explosives, the officials said. Six days later, the 101st Airborne Division arrived. Neither group was specifically searching for HMX or RDX, and the complex is so large — with more than 1,000 buildings — that it is not clear that the troops even saw the bunkers that might have held the explosives. The Iraq Survey Group discovered that the stockpiles of HMX and RDX were missing on May 27, seven weeks after the last visit by U.S. troops. U.S. defense officials contended that the Iraqis were dispersing many of their weapons before the war, but they had no direct intelligence to prove it. These officials stressed that, in any event, there was no evidence that the missing HMX or RDX had been used against coalition forces in Iraq.
