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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 12, 2006 -> 07:57 PM) If it was McCarthy straight up, and there was enough money included in the deal, I'd consider it. But on the other hand, consider this. How good will the $200 million team be when their stockpile of young pitching finally appears? Think about facing this rotation next year: Matsuzaka, Wang, Philip Hughes, Brandon McCarthy, Randy Johnson, Mike Mussina, and maybe something resembling the unholy offspring of Jaret Wright and Carl Pavano. Suddenly their starting pitching goes from expensive, old, and broken, to young, fireballing, healthy, cheap, and deep. They've already shown they have enough money to overcome any deficiencies on their offense, but the one place they haven't been able to do it is on their pitching staff, because the older pitchers who get paid the big bucks have a habit of breaking down after a lot of innings. If suddenly the Yankees got themselves a boatload of young pitching at the start of that rotation, which they're already on the verge of doing with Wang, Matsuzaka, and Hughes, then, well think about how the Tigers would have done this year if they had the Yankee offense. Remember, even if we were to get ARod from the Yankees, we still have to beat the Yankees somewhere along the line. Yes, we can help ourselves here, but we shouldn't do it while simultaneously giving the Yankees the one thing they need to be even better: young quality starting pitching. I would rather deal Fields, Broadway and Garcia and possibly Cotts for Arod and Melky. Then turn Uribe and Pods into BP help / Prospects. The yankees are going to have a young studly rotation starting in mid '07/08 Matz/Zito Wang Hughes Clippard _______ arm aquired in the arod deal.

just watched it, and wow is all i can say.

i thought the 40 man roster didn't have to be set till right before the winter meetings, i could be wrong though.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Oct 9, 2006 -> 03:54 AM) It was but 2 and a half years ago that the Yankees were getting Freddy Garcia for a package of prospects include Dioner Navarro. Then KW included some guy named Jeremy Reed. Given, a lot has changed since then(like Freddy's velocity), but I don't think that will change the fact that New York likes Freddy. He still has the makeup to be a big game pitcher, and his stuff looked a hell of a lot better in September, even if it was mainly junkball s***. That's why I am almost determined to believe that Crede and Garcia would get ARod and perhaps even Proctor too. You then look to acquire a stopgap leadoff hitter for a year or two(Dave Roberts comes to mind initially, but perhaps Figgins is possible as well) I agree i think the yankees know there are only 3 teams the could realisticly afford him and have the peices to pull it off(Angels, Cubs, Sox), They would wan't a replacement at 3B for us it would be Crede, and a SP i would think Garcia. I wonder what it would take to get Melky from them too, that solves all our LF/Leadoff questions. This also depends on what aramis does with the cubs, i think the angels would pusue him before A Rod because they would only have to give up money instead of talent.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Oct 9, 2006 -> 05:05 AM) Cowley looks at the bullpen. Sounds like Cotts will be shopped to gauge his value. He probably won't go anywhere. But if a team is willing to overpay, the sox would have to consider it with Thornton going so well. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...T-sox09.article sounds like the sox will add three new guys [with Cotts staying on]--one via trade, one via free agency, and one via the farm system, IMO. 1] Free agency--a reliable RH like Justin Speier 2] Trade--another reliable RH like Chad Qualls 3] Farm--Charlie Haeger Thoughts on your 3 additions? I too am seeing the FA being Justin Speier, and Haeger taking over McCarthys role, i wouldn't be supprised if Cotts is part of a bigger deal or if he his retained. How does everyone here feel about keeping Hermanson with a incentive laiden deal using his buy out for '07 of .5mil as the base? so then we only need Speier. What do you think it would take to get somone like Qualls or Lidge? Lidge has two years of Arb left and would make the back end of our BP even better.

^^^^ Oh Frank! lol to the uber frank supporters on sox talk, it would've been a cold day in hell or Chicago for that matter if Frank took the same deal Beane gave him to return to the sox and i think Frank is the greatest white sox to ever put on pale hose.

James Earl Jones >

QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Oct 6, 2006 -> 11:29 PM) This could be the best video in this thread: Link Watch it in full-screen. simply amazing.

QUOTE(ChiSox_Sonix @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 02:24 PM) If we could get some sort of package for him that included Volstad/Petit and a couple others like an Andino and Tankersley you'd have to consider it I like where your going with this, but the marlins will not deal Tankersley hes their future closer and a former #1 draft round pick, i just don't see that happening with tank. QUOTE(Kalapse @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 06:35 PM) You really shouldn't even bother debating it with people anymore. There will always be the few on here who will bring no real reasoning, logic or stats to their comments and make statements like that. It's not very hard to just make a comment like that, it's incredibly difficult to back up however so you'll likely only see a few posts like that in every thread with no rebuttal to criticizm because they're not interested in backing up their asinine comments. agreed

happy birthday.

agreed, i don't quite understand the article who are the sox getting in return? and if BA goes to the marlins i will be sad for soxdom, but yet my second favorite team will get an amazing talent.

Melky Cabrera

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Oct 4, 2006 -> 01:34 AM) Beautox, I think you are misinformed about Longoria. I noticed that you posted this on SSS too about him, I don't think he played even an inning at SS this year. He took a little more than 200 ABs this year, and minorleaguesplits.com is showing that he didn't even take one AB as a SS. They've got him on the fast track to the hot corner. I doubt he's moving back to SS. Damn milb.com! they have him listed at SS, and seeing how a 6'2 SS isn't that crazy,

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Oct 3, 2006 -> 10:27 PM) Unfortunately for Kansas City they screwed themselves sweeping Detroit. One more win than Tampa Bay this season. Now, saying Price is everything people have said of him, imagine if Williams were to trade McCarthy to the Devil Rays for Crawford. They'd have a future 1-2-3 consisting of Kazmir/McCarthy/Price. It'd suddenly become a lot tougher in the American League East. Flash your also forgetting that they already have two studs waiting down at A that will be ready when the Drays are ready to start pushing for the AL east around 08 in Wade Davis and Jacob McGee Kazmir + Price is a handful let alone who they're going to get for Crawford + McGee and Davis, along with a Longoria at SS and upton moving to LF. Their future is bright, now they just need to get something/anything for Dukes.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Oct 3, 2006 -> 11:29 AM) You have two managers that are roughly the same age and are both former players. One will throw his players under the bus or elevate them depending on what they did but will talk to them and explain what they did right or wrong and why he threw them under the bus. He manages a mixture of vets and rooks. You have another who is trying to rule with an iron fist, managing like another great manager, but without the experience and rings. He manages a team of youngsters trying to learn how to win. And he did it, but he did it HIS way, right or wrong. Sorry, but Girardi wasn't the right guy for the Marlins in the long haul. You can Torre it all you want, but that only works with vets. Torre is the Phil Jackson of baseball. Girardi is trying to do the same without truly talking to his players. Just do what he says. I would've put money on it that if the Marlins kept Girardi next year, they woulda taken a HUGE step back and he woulda been fired before the end of the season. Agreed Girardi isn't the alpha and omega that is the Florida Marlins, its all about Beinfest + Fleming. the marlins won before with out Girardi and they will do it again. Joe wanted both Nolasco and Johnson either in the Pen or down on the farm starting, the FO wasn't having any of that. Joe is also the reason Johnson got hurt, after the rain delay having him go back out and pitch thats just stupid.

^^^ wow, looks like Kansas city is going to get even better.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 1, 2006 -> 06:19 PM) Great stuff. It'll be interesting to see how these guys actually develop because you'll see rankings like this vary a bit once baseball play starts in a long while.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Sep 30, 2006 -> 01:30 PM) Would only make sense for Kansas City to draft David Price and continue building lefthanded, Sox killling pitchers within our division. lol yeah, the central is going to get even tougher. in the '07 draft id like to see the sox go after SS/2B and even more C if someone should slip.

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Lets just get Rollins and Crisp, and bat them 1-2 respectively, i expect our pitching to be much better next year. Yes im well aware of the fact Rollins OBP is .337 this year, but he can steal at a very sucessful rate 36SB/4CS and he is going to knock himself in 20-25 times a year i can deal with is so so OBP, plus hes fast and can score from 1st on a gapper and he can hit LHP (.287) and hes a switch hitter and only 27. Also Rollins can play SS well. Crisp is having a down year in Boston and is out of posisition you put him in LF and in the central again and i bet he excells and he imediatly improves our OF defense. you figure he can do the "little" things in the #2 hole, while hitting 15+HR, and stealing 20-25 bags a sucessful rate(4-6CS) and not striking out 100+ a year while posting a .340s OBP, plus hes only 26 that helps this team get younger. Deal Uribe, Pods, Garcia and Jose and fields to get it done. SS Rollins S LF Crisp S RF Dye R DH Thome L 1B Konerko R 3B Crede R C AJP L 2B Iguchi R CF Anderson R No longer will a Loogy be able to go threw are 1-3(when Thome was in the 3 hole) with no problem and that line up is pretty balanced.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 30, 2006 -> 03:04 AM) It's nothing against him personally but he's a knuckler. I'm racist against knuckleballers. lol its ok, when Haeger continues to dominate there will plenty of room on the Chuck love train. I'm kinda curious as to who the youngest knuckler to ever debut was or if its Haeger.

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