Capn12

I've only seen bigger load of crap than that in my toilet....boo hoo, the team isn't motivated...boo hoo, they have no heart. You think these guys have to be f***ing told by their manager how much this series means? They aren't a bunch of deaf-mutes for Christs Sake!! As far as I know, they can ll read the paper, they know what the standings look like. Why does everyone lay it at the managers feet every time things go wrong? Poor execution with runners on, was JM supposed to go hold Franks hand in the first inning so he'd know his manager was supporting him? At what point do some of you realize that the manager, yes he has f***ed up alot this year, and shoulda already been fired, but every little thing that goes wrong, from wild pitches to HRs given up to GIDPs, can't be laid at the managers feet. Lets hold some of the players who are the ones PLAYING the game responsible for their actions, because they didn't EXECUTE, not because they weren't Motivated...f*** that, the whole team is motivated, they know whats on the line here.

It doesnt help that we have a Little League hitter playing catcher tonight...but then again, no one else besides Robbie is hitting....

At what point do we as Sox fans quit using "no heart" as an excuse for poor play, and start actually seeing that its the lack of simple execution, plain and simple, that the Sox are suffering from.

Which further begs the question...if thats so, and Garland and Loz were switched so Loz could pitch first...couldn't JM have just switched them back? Or was Loz forced into pitching when he wasnt up to par?

God I hate seeing Schoeneweis come into any game these days....CLee with a catch on a smoked ball.....both pitches from Schoene have been smacked

C'mon SS2K3, you know that every bad thing that happens to this team is always JM's fault. At least, thats the story from alot of people on this board.

And now in 2 of the first 3 innings, we've wasted opportunities....same story, different day.

ground ball after ground ball...c'mon guys, get a lil lift on it..

Uh, that may be taking it a bit far. Not always what have you done for me lately...although he does look like s*** tonight. I'm not writing him off for good because of this game, come on now.

We'll be damn lucky to get 5 innings out of Loz tonight.

This is about as bad as I have seen a pitcher throw in such a big game for us.

107 K's in 133 games, not counting his K and this game....thats BAD for a shortstop.

Jose Hernandez Jr K's......something not entirely new to him....3 up, 3 down

He was throwing lots of cutters, all diving down and in...kept throwing and missing with it.

Thats pretty f***ing harsh, dude...meanwhile, a 31 pitch inning...we're gonna see the pen tonight!!

This is the wrong time to revert back to the Loaiza of 2000 and 2001

Good lord...come on Loz....make them beat you, don't give it to them

C.mon Loz....we need this one....hit the corners..

Thing is, WU83, he didnt want to be here BECAUSE OF HOW HE WAS TREATED. And that blame goes squarely on KW. Cameo Williams wanted his own man in here, and didn't care for Foulke at all, no matter what his numbers were.

hmm...I'll be busy typing rebuttals to everyones posts to do pbp...i can drop the bits of meaningful knowledge during the game though.

Chi White Sox AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg R. Alomar 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .256 C. Lee lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .294 F. Thomas dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262 M. Ordonez rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .324 C. Everett cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .284 P. Konerko 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .249 J. Valentin ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .232 J. Crede 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .259 M. Olivo c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .227 Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Minnesota AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg S. Stewart lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .312 D. Hocking 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .251 D. Mientkiewicz 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .305 J. Jones dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .303 C. Koskie 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .293 T. Hunter cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .249 A.J. Pierzynski c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .305 M. Ryan rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .375 C. Guzman ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .264 Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Chi White Sox IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA E. Loaiza 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2.73 Minnesota IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA B. Radke 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4.79

Wow...whats all the hate towards a brewing Buehrle vs Colon debate? Can't we just say that both are doing the job for us right now? Thats all that matters.

Maybe, none of us know...but it won't be for at least 3 years anyways, thanks to arbitration and Sox having rights to Buehrle

Judging by the way we usually perform against an unknown pitcher, I don't think we have an advanced scouting department.

Well, we all know that is something that is always possible.