Dick Allen

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 03:17 PM) Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 8m8 minutes ago Source: #Rangers’ obligation to Hamilton less than $7M over three years, as was previously reported. Hamilton can opt out after two years… …#Angels obligated to pay entire buyout if Hamilton opts out. Exact dollar figure of buyout not yet known. I think he gets paid $30 million or so the last year. I'm guessing he won't opt out.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 03:19 PM) The difference between John Danks and Carlos Rodon is worth it even if you need a few weeks of another starter, and Salty doesn't rebound. Not to mention it frees up $7 million each season that could be used to bring in another player to help you. The tough part wouldn't be convincing Rick Hahn, it would be convincing Jeff Loria. I would bet anything Hahn wouldn't do that.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 03:13 PM) John Danks hasn't had a "pretty good" season since 2010, and you are looking to make room for Carlos Rodon. It isn't that difficult. Rodon has an innings limit. Then you are stuck, assuming no other injuries with Johnson, Beck or Montas. If you are in contention, that could be a problem. If it were for a player who could help you, fine. But Salty isn't as good as Flowers or Geo.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 02:57 PM) Also guilty here. Fooled by his 40 doubles season in Boston. A lot of people were fooled. I think his BABIP was .372 his free agent season. Kind of like Flowers last year.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 02:46 PM) The 4/25 postponement will help in the long run. I expect at least 20k, if only for the blanket. And with the 2005 reunion that weekend, you at see more people hitting both games that day. It always amazes me how a cheap blanket draws people. Make up games usually are not well attended. Whatever blankets they have leftover in game 1 they will probably give away game 2. A blanket in July. I hope it's 98 degrees.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 02:49 PM) Something that would almost be too ideal would be a deal with Danks going to Miami, with the Sox picking up no money Why would that be ideal? How is Salty an upgrade? Not only can't he hit, he is regarded as the worst pitch framer in baseball by both methods. Salty isn't good enough to be on the White Sox. I understand saving money, but Danks has been pretty good his last couple starts. The Sox aren't cash starved. No reason to dump a pitcher just to save money.

He is awful. Worst pitch framer in baseball, hits worse than Flowers.

QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) Ugh, I had a ticket to last saturday's game as well. Now I won't be able to go to the makeup game because it's on a friday. Does anyone know if I can just go to the boxoffice and exchange the april 25 ticket for a ticket to any game between now and the makeup game? Do they always let you get bleacher seats for $10? I think you are SOL with that one.

IMO, Avi has been going backwards defensively since he was acquired. If you remember, the Sox initially thiought he could be a CF. I don't think he's ever going to be good with the glove. Just hope when he screws up it isn't at the worst time.

I think he fans way too much to be much of a major league player. Hopefully he puts up numbers big enough to where the Sox could trade him to a team doing a salary dump willing to take the longshot odds and making it look to their fanbase like they got something pretty legitimate.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 09:45 AM) We win two games against the Royals and now everyone is forced to feel the same thing as other posters? Get real. We're still below .500, and we are still the same organization that has lost 16 of our last 21 to KC and 17 of our last 22 at USCF to KC. I don't remember ever in a million years celebrating this much beating a team in the first half of a season, because the only thing time has proven is that we struggle to beat teams like the Twins, Tigers and Royals in the 2nd half, when the games really matter. Balta's stats are or the ones posted earlier are totally irrelevant? Then aren't we doing exactly the opposite by "overhyping" the same stats after just 20 games played? "fans seem to love to be miserable...not trying to find negatives for every damn thing...there are a couple of people who would like to have the Brewers record" This kind of WSI "group think" is why that website doesn't exist any more, for all intents and purposes. Because posters had the temerity to think for themselves and not act like sheep. We don't need anyone, not even the mods, to tell us how to be a Sox fan or how to go about enjoying the game of baseball. Chisox.com could post 100 Scott Merkin fluff pieces per week, they could have Brooks Boyer and Rongey on the radio 25 times a day saying only positives things and defending the organization, and it probably wouldn't make one iota of difference in terms of attendance or fan support/enthusiasm. If the White Sox want to not be in the bottom 5 teams for all of MLB in attendance, they're going to have to do a lot more than beat the Royals, a team many pundits and prognosticators picked for 3rd or 4th in the AL Central. As a Sox fan, it's okay to disagree as long as you have a well-thought out reason for having your opinion or position. If we're just going to blindly all have the same viewpoint or not even be able to have disagreements without insulting each other at every step, maybe it's better to not post at all. I mean...think about it, if your biggest joy in life is assessing others and how good they are at being White Sox fans, maybe that priority it out of whack and needs to be re-examined. For example, Fathom can also be gloomy or Cubs-centric (and most Sox fans are guilty of this, myself as much as any), but that doesn't mean he's not one of the best and most consistent posters on this board. I would never think he's not one of the best White Sox fans out there. Heck, Marty, even though I disagreed with 98% of what he said, he made you think at least...and defend your beliefs with real evidence/support and not just opinions. Just the fact that many of us spend XX amount of minutes or even hours per day HERE at SoxTalk discussing our favorite team and/or sport should mean we needn't spend wasted time defending our right/s to have an opinion that it's in the minority. I never said you don't have the right to try to find anything wrong with everything, I just wonder why anyone would spend so much time trying to find reasons why you shouldn't be happy with something. Or spend as many hours watching something you refuse to take any joy. Using stats at this point is silly. If you used current stats, you would conclude Adam Lind is a better hitter than Mike Trout. We know that isn't true. With Petricka healthy and Rodon acclimated, Drabek in Charlotte,the White Sox bullpen will be and is as I said nails. Sorry you want to think it sucks. Sorry you now think things take a couple of months to determine.But you are all over the place. You use sample size yet determined the season was over within the first week. Said Cleveland was playing in a possible elimination series this past weekend. Since you counted the White Sox season as over , the cold hard facts are they have been even or better than their rivals despite not hitting or playing particularly well. They are going to hit. The bullpen has taken shape. Q being done appears to have been overstated. Have fun ripping them all you can. I am just going to enjoy them win. If you can't see this bullpen is outstanding, despite where their WHIP ranks, that's too bad as well.

Pitchers shouldn't hit because the vast majority of them can't. IMO, if Wainright blew out his achilles running out of the box, he probably would have blown it out doing something else. Get the DH in both leagues. I understand some get incredibly excited about double switches, but the DH is used everywhere except the NL these days.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 09:06 AM) I probably sound like a broken record to some, but those three earned runs Dan Jennings has aren't there if we didn't have a 2B making his MLB debut. I hate to play what-ifs because obviously bad things happen, but if Micah makes that play (or if Micah was in position) in game 1, the ERA between Robertson/Duke/Jennings/Petricka is .77. That's playing half their games in a hitter-friendly park with more than half of their games against the 3 & 4 offenses in baseball (by OPS). Yes. I don't understand why someone thinks White Sox fans shouldn't be thrilled with this bullpen. They were without Petricka most of the time, and Rodon should settle down and probably be pretty dominant. Instead trying to poo poo any excitement with stats that are easily scewed by a bad outing or 2 which include guys not on the team anymore. Sure, in gamethreads, White Sox fans seem to love to be miserable, but when it is all said and done, they prefer winning the games, and not trying to find negatives for every damn thing. There are a couple people here that would like the White Sox to have the Brewers record, but not as many as a gamethread would have you believe. The bullpen is great. If you claim to be a White Sox fan, and want to disagree, too bad for you. It boogles my mind why you would waste time watching them if you can't take any joy out of it, even when they are really good.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 10:29 PM) http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CH...le-scores.shtml We had the same exact record last year after 19 games. 9-10, 4th place, 2 games back (not 3 1/2 - 4). You are like the Wicked Witch of the West, while she was melting, still trying to throw cold water on everything.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 08:38 PM) What has the weather been like in April? The ball carries in USCF a lot differently in the summer months (June-August) than April through mid-May and mid to late September. Many of those balls coming up just short at the fence, like the one Melky Cabrera speared, are going to be homers instead. This is hysterical. Caulfield and the Royals are simultaneously cracking.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 08:41 PM) I would be more than happy to come back to this argument in the two weeks before the trade deadline in July. There will be enough of Hawk's sample size to start drawing some real conclusions about this pretty unpredictable team. You are the one that said the season was over after 3 games. Now you put down Hawk's sample size.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 08:30 PM) Once, again...hyperbole. I didn't say they were bad...they're above average. But to say they're anything close to "nails" or elite or whatever other adjectives you'd like to throw at their description, that's far from accurate as well. Other than David Robertson, who, exactly is it that you're describing in the bullpen as being "nails"? Maybe Putnam for stretches last year...but we're in 2015 now. Duke had a great stretch last year as well...but that was 2014, and in an entirely different league. Hyperbole? Those numbers are fact.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 08:28 PM) Once again....what gives you the right to assume what other posters do and do not like? The list I made, at least 10-12 of those names have had quite solid MLB careers, so how are they all failed prospects? I don't get your point. Did I not predict Gordon Beckham would hit over .270 this year? I notice you didn't say anything about that, or when I was right that he would continue to struggle with perceived pressure to perform on him in a "make or break" contract year last season (if he wanted that $5-6 million deal for 2015 from the Sox). There it is A Gordon Beckham mention. The Royals drop 2 in a day and Caulfield is in full meltdown.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 08:24 PM) Of course, for the 10 millionth time, you don't address the fact that even with David Robertson's incredible start, the overall team bullpen WHIP isn't even in the top half of major league teams...we're on the outside looking in at most of the top 10 bullpen categories....so you just say something inane like "it's true because I said it's true" and then expect what? We should just take your word for it because of David Robertson's incredible pitching performance today being extrapolated well beyond into something it is not, at least not yet? It's not about getting upset. It's simply the fact that we're not even 20 games into the season...it's like someone said in a thread before the Sale start, guaranteeing a win, you just can't afford to take anything for granted. Because, as Hawk Harrelson says, as soon as you start to do that, it will come right back up and bite you in the butt. 11 IP 8 hits 1 run 0 walks 15 strikeouts And not even 20 games into the season? The guy who posted after 3 games said the Sox had less than 3% chance of making the playoffs. LMAO If the Sox bullpen is as bad as you say, good night Royals.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 08:12 PM) Sorry for actually watching and enjoying other teams and players outside of the White Sox. I guess I should be crucified by the D.A. Witch-Hunting Brigade. Luckily, the Salem Witch trials and the time of the Scarlet Letter passed a long time ago...or did it? You don't enjoy White Sox players. When you talk about WAR, you can mention 25 failed prospects but totally forget the most successful.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 08:10 PM) Because they're our divisional competitor and happen to be well ahead of the White Sox in every single bullpen category. If the White Sox had the bullpen of the Twins or Indians or even the Tigers (outside of Soria), then there would be no need to mention them at all. Just post White Sox bullpen is nails and Caulfield gets upset. Vs. the great KC Royals 11 IP 8 hits 1 earned run 0 walks 15 strikeouts

I just wonder why anytime you post positive comments about the White Sox, Caulfield opposes and always seems to mention the Royals. I womder if it will be another 30 years until their next playoff appearance.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 07:44 PM) Another thing, maybe we want to actually get to .500 before we start considering any aspect of our team "elite" maybe. http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching/split/128 Maybe when we enter the Top 10 in the majors for bullpen ERA, for example...or top 3-5. http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/p...ded/order/false Opposing OPS, 9th. http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/p...ded/order/false WHIP, just 17th. Not nails. At least not yet. Once again, if they put up KC's numbers for the next 15-20 games, we can revisit this thread again. Petricka and Rodon are new additions. The bullpen stats are out of whack because of Drabek. Your Royals had a ton of trouble., bit did score a run. The Royals fade has started. My condolences.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 07:33 PM) Since this thread has been made you know the bullpen will blow the next game right? No. This thread is the truth.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 06:58 PM) He's played pretty good defense all series. Especially on ball. I would've had him in there. DRose had a huge block earlier. His D has been a lot better overall, although he did get smoked that last play.