Dick Allen

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 08:16 PM) CHICAGO IL For a guy who said I am always wrong, answering Chicago IL when asked what country you are from is pretty funny.

Alexei throwing home there was ill-advised.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 08:00 PM) He was running full sprint out of batters box he f*** up. Yes. Hustling is for losers.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 07:58 PM) It seemed dumb on Gameday. It was dumb, but at least this time, not De Aza's stupidity. I was ready to blame him until I saw the replay, and he is clearly looking at McEwing for some guidance.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 07:55 PM) A boatload of dumb. Why is he here still? His coach told him to go for it. But by all means, pile on.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 07:53 PM) De Aza'd As dumb as De Aza has been, that one is on McEwing. If you watch the reply De Aza is looking at him and you can see his arm waving partially.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 10:43 AM) If I'm not mistaken, Steve Stone's contract is up at the end of this year. He almost walked away a couple of years ago. I wonder what the plans are for him to re-up and continue on. I certainly hope he does! I think he is signed through next season.

People hear what they want to hear when it comes to Hawk. For one thing, the TWTW stuff. If it is sabermetrics that values working counts and getting walks, guess who has been humming that since way before sabermetrics was even a word? White Sox fans have learned more about baseball listening to Hawk then Cubs fans have listening to good ole' Len. But Len does tell you what you need to put on your IPod. There are a lot of things about the game that people don't even think twice about, call things certain things, look for certain things, that even the Hawk haters don't even realize and probably will never admit, they got from him.

Wants to watch the grandkids grow up. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/smack...829-story.html#

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 08:42 AM) If a guy won't put up with a 6 week road trip in order to get a shot at the playoffs he ought to just retire. Especially if you take into account how vastly overpaid he's been in the city where he currently is and the fact that he'd be doing that team a small favor by living out of a suitcase for an extra 2 weeks. So on one hand, the guy is vastly overpaid (I agree). On the other hand, teams like Oakland, with limited resources, should be lining up to trade for him, and you will laugh at them when they lose the play in game all because they didn't trade for Adam Dunn.

Hayden Fry had the visitor locker room at Kinnick Stadium painted pink in 1979. It has remained pink ever since. Tomorrow an Iowa professor will be organizing a protest saying it is sexist and homophobic.

Could you imagine if Robin let a guy like Abreu beat him 3 times in 12 innings?

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 07:44 PM) Danks's pitching stat ranks, of qualified starters: ERA: 88th of 93 FIP: 93rd of 93 xFIP: 92nd of 93 SIERA: 89th of 93 So if there is 30 teams and he is about 90th, that is a pretty solid #3 or 4 starter, which is what they need him to be. You should try to watch a game and just enjoy it instead of having to go reference Fangraphs to see if they can explain to you what you watched.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 03:40 PM) A Tigers beat writer is now saying Sale vs Scherzer in Game 1. The big Kyle Ryan-Chris Bassitt matchup at night...probably. The k zone for Sale on the White Sox website is for the afternoon game, so it looks like your match ups are probably correct.

This is what the Sox got for 1 month of Jim Thome: http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/p...id=fuller001jus I would imagine the "haul" for Mr. Dunn would even be less.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 10:48 AM) But when people say that the White Sox are going to spend more than that, I think that's a pretty solid case that there's a $35 million-ish ceiling to what they have to play with this year and they might stay well under it. It's like the person who suggested Delmon Young. As you said, it's just a post on the internet, but the odds of the Chairman spending money on a person who ranted about the f***ing Jews seem low to me. If Delmon Young was a different kind of player, JR could learn to forgive, but he's a RH DH who generally kills the White Sox and is a journeyman against everyone else. IMO, the team showed their cards going after Tanaka. They won't spend to spend, but will if their specific targets are available. They have always seemed to stretch their limits in the past. When they had no money, the found some to add Peavy and Rios. They found some to trade for EJax. They found $4 million laying around for a month of Manny. After they signed Dunn, everyone assumed AJ and Paulie were gone. They were brought back. When JR was asked where he had the money, because the company line had always been they break even every year, he said "you save a little here, save a little there". To say anyone here really has any idea what the payroll limit is would be crazy, but we do know it is usually higher than the White Sox initially claim.They have been a very profitable team except for 2013 the past 25 years. And teams that lose 99 games shouldn't be profitable.

Until one of these teams starts winning at a decent clip, whoever has the better "core" means nothing.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 10:34 AM) The White Sox's committed payroll next year is $60 million assuming they offer arb to 3 guys and cut loose Viciedo and De Aza. IMO, the Sox's break-even point next year is probably around $100 million, maybe just under it depending on where they wind up in the draft. I don't know how Abreu's signing bonus works out but that is real money that fits somewhere on the list. The reason the team will be profitable this year is that they cut back on the payroll to under $85 million, leaving them some room under the $105 million-ish break even point. That's a 33% payroll decrease compared to last year. They should make money at that level. The Sox have money to spend this offseason, and I think the limit is about $30 million. That doesn't leave a lot of money if there is a single big signing. There's room for 1 and some small pieces alongside, but you do have to ask yourself whether that's the right move this year. Personally, I remain unconvinced that there is any set of moves the White Sox could make for $30 million-ish that would put this team in the playoffs next year, and therefore I hesitate on spending it. If there were a trade that either clears Danks's salary or fills one of the major needs of this team without significantly depleting that money, then I could be convinced that a single big signing and a few bullpen pieces does make this a playoff contender. However, at this time, I'm focusing solely on the free agent side of things. Fortunately, just like the rest of us, you are just an poster on the internets, and no one really has to convince you of anything when it comes to White Sox player moves.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 10:04 AM) One dollar. But seriously, I'm sure Hahn has done his due diligence on Stanton. The Sox might have enough to get him, now that Rodon is in the picture, but the cost would be astronomical. I bet the Marlins would do it for Abreu straight up.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 10:13 AM) If the White Sox's revenues this year are $5 million less than the debacle last year, which is more than reasonable given the erosion at the gate I just discussed, then the White Sox's revenues including that TV deal are less than they were in 2012 without it based on the Forbes-reported revenue numbers. Forbes showed White Sox revenues dropping by about $15 million in 2012-2013 and the team losing money in 2013. $20 million would basically just plug that gap if everything else stayed constant. Everything else has not stayed constant. So JR was lying when he said the team will make money this year? And Hahn is lying when he said he was going to spend some money this offseason if his targets are available?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 08:00 PM) Considering the team lost money last year, and every revenue stream is pretty much promised to be down this season, and they just spent way more money on the minor league system then they have in the teams history... Yeah, it isn't hard to envision something decently under $100 million. Incorrect. The TV contract put a healthy bump on White Sox revenues. JR already said the team will turn a profit, like they do just about every year. There is no reason for all the JR heirs on here to be worried. There is plenty of money. If there wasn't, Tanaka wouldn't have even been discussed.

I think any season the White Sox play before Chris Sale clutches his elbow or shoulder, where they are playing out the string with over a month to go, is not a successful season.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 01:40 PM) I think this season has been a nice building year for 2015 and there's no reason 2016 won't end up with the Sox contending. The biggest disappointments this year have been E. Johnson and Davidson going from core pieces to gigantic question marks, as well as the lack of non-core players performing well enough to bring back anything at the trade deadline. I will say that Rodon was the perfect draft pick for this team, given Sale and Abreu's peak years coming up. Davidson and Johnson are pretty big minuses for this season. Davidson is Michael Jordan in AA after not playing since he was a sophomore in HS except with more homers, more strikeouts and fewer stolen bases. Almost all the rest of their offensive numbers are the same. Considering how many of the other players on Charlotte's roster pretty much raked, Davidson's season is a huge blow for a team that considered him a middle of the order bat for a long time. And Johnson.........hopefully he can bounce back, but this season was just a waste of time for him.

Sergio Santos DFA'd again. No one will pick him up, and Toronto will surely pay the buyout. I bet he is one guy the Sox will want back for a look next spring if no other team does anything crazy.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 12:35 PM) That's fine. But you can't rely on those things to happen in order to clear Rodon a rotation spot unless you're willing to keep him in the minors the whole year if they don't happen. If Noesi has a solid start and shows he's learning how to be a better starter, do you keep Rodon in AAA the full year? If Sale doesn't get hurt, do you keep Rodon in AAA the whole year? If the goal is for Rodon to enter the rotation you can't have him in a place where you're counting on one of those things to happen. Those issues are an argument that we should have a backup plan other than Rodon if the goal is for him to be in the big leagues early next season. If Rodon is deserving of a spot in the rotation, Rodon will have a spot in the rotation. C'mon man. There is no team in baseball with too much starting pitching. And no team in baseball keeps Carlos Rodon in the minors if he is ready because of guys like Hector Noesi or other mediocrity like him. Just name one season with one team where a spot wouldn't be open for Rodon if he was ready. The Sox have Sale, Q, and then a bunch of guys who can't hold Rodon's jock. Any team that banks on having 5 starters all year long is probably in for a long season. I think the 2005 White Sox tied a record with 6.