Dick Allen

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 26, 2014 -> 02:32 PM) Viciedo was seemingly going to platoon with De Aza and get about 300-400 plate appearances prior to Garcia getting hurt. He can play multiple positions (I think it's safe to say he can play LF, RF, and 1B). He's young and got years of control still. De Aza was viewed as a competent starting player. Beckham was given one more chance. Those players all have bigger roles with the ability to diversify their roles while also having (relative) youth on their side. They could have had a future on this team if they performed. Konerko has no future on this team, and this team is rebuilding, which is a time when teams make critical decisions on their future. I love and respect everything Konerko did for the organization, and I ultimately didn't care that Konerko was on the roster, but those people who have or had a beef with Konerko have/had legitimate gripes. They really don't. The spot gets very limited playing time. If you want one of your better minor leaguers there, you are basically wasting a year of development. I initially thought it ultimately cost Jordan Danks a spot, but he did get some time with injuries earlier and his play wound up costing him a spot.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 26, 2014 -> 10:29 AM) At the very least it seems like Semien would have a decent shot at an IF/utility position next year if they wanted to go that way, and depending on what they do at other positions there could be some at bats available at DH for him as well. Leury should clearly not get a chance to be the UT guy again until he does more in the minors to improve with the bat. The Sox need to send Leury to winter ball to work on the offense. If he could just be mediocre, he's a nice guy to have on the bench.

The great joy people take seeing a person they don't even know struggling is actually pretty sad.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Aug 26, 2014 -> 07:34 AM) Each year that a player is in the minor leagues for more than 20 days after being put on the 40 man roster counts as an option year. He was put on the 40 man and called up in 2012 and remained in the Majors the rest of that year other than one short stint. If my understanding is correct, the Sox used one option year in each of 2013 and 2014 so he should have one left after this year. That's amazing. Jordan Danks is the Jess Settles of baseball. It seems he has been getting called up and sent down forever, yet still has an option left.

I'm a Beckham fan, and while I do think sometimes position being played will affect your offense, I don't think it had anything to do with Gordon's struggles. He did hit well for periods as a 2B. He overthinks. His swing gets long, and he struggles. Earlier this year, when he got his average to about .300, his stroke was short and sweet.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 24, 2014 -> 04:06 PM) Williams wanted a house-horse. Someone who would be loyal to him and Cooper. I understand that, but why they picked someone who had never sat so much as a minute on a bench as a coach in any capacity, despite being retired for 7 years, is hard to figure. I also don't understand the extension - unless it's Williams still calling the shots on such things. How many years have you sat on a bench? You seem to think you have every answer.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 24, 2014 -> 03:51 PM) McCann is not your typical LHH. He's hitting just .208/.265/.324 vs RHP. Headly has an OPS almost .100 points higher vs RHP than McCann. Once again facts. Stop it, you will make the complainers look as incompetent as they think RV is.

Paulie is working the grecian formula on his goatee.

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Aug 24, 2014 -> 02:45 PM) Off a damn good reliever too Riveria taught this guy the cutter, and he got to 500 career strikeouts quicker than Mariano. Righties hit this guy better than lefties in case anyone is wondering about pinch hitters.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 24, 2014 -> 02:33 PM) The offense has gone silent since the Yanks scored. They haven't scored more than 3 runs in a game for a week.

Big error totals are pretty standard in the low minors. Ozzie Smith played 68 minor league games. They all were as a 22 year old in low A ball. He made 23 errors. If Anderson is showing nice range, there is nothing to panic about....yet.

So much crying .

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 23, 2014 -> 03:12 PM) Sox lose 5-3................................ 7th straight loss on the road against the Yankees. Team in the typical toilet mode under Ventura in August. 16-12 August 2012 16-13 August 2013 At least have some fact when Robin bashing.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 23, 2014 -> 06:37 AM) The way you characterized Alexei Ramirez was inaccurate. It should have said starting American League All-Star SS, if not for Derek Jeter homage. Reading your posts he is old, he has to go, the attendance.....the fact is this team isn't very good. Their best players have almost all been injured. They have had others bust. People have been pining for guys from the AAA team to play. A team that actually has a worse record in AAA than the White Sox. Yet if the Sox lose, Robin is stupid. Look at the criticism for this game. A poster complained he DIDN'T bunt and used Webb in the 9th. Yet anytime he has bunted, he is stupid for wasting outs and any idiot except Robin knows Webb should be the Sox closer. It used to be Greg Walker's fault when the hitters didn't hit. Now if the pitchers pitch well, Cooper is a genius. If they suck, Robin has to go. If the hitters hit, Steverson is great. If they don't Robin is a buffoon. Some people need to get a grip. The offense has been better, but really how much better would it have been without new players Eaton and Abreu? The pitchers who should suck, suck. They need better players. That isn't Robin's job or Cooper' job or Steverson's job. Stone said last night if the White Sox had KC's bullpen they would be in first place after Hawk said they would battle for first place. The talent level needs to improve.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 10:33 PM) I don't think I've heard anyone here say Avisail Garcia sucks. (yet) I agree with you to an extent though. Avi has hardly played. I was referring to Viciedo.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 10:11 PM) So who do you replace him with? That is the big question. We will see another function weakened by Reinsdorf's loyalty policies. I don't think he needs to be replaced, but when s***ty hitters didn't hit, it used to be blamed on the hitting coach. Why when s***ty pitchers get lit up, isn't it on Cooper? I guess that would take away the blame on Robin.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 09:57 PM) So he gets a pass forever? He gets a pass until he gets a team that should win. I mentioned it before, according to Soxtalk, the LF sucks, the CF is good but is always hurt, the RF sucks, the 3B might be OK, the SS needs to be traded, the 2B is awful, the 1B is awesome, the C sucks, the DHs and bench need to go away. The bullpen is awful, and at least 40% of the rotation is garbage. Only green sox could manage this team to 130 wins.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 09:49 PM) DA when is RV accountable? Had a first place team and it ran into the ground, year 2 and 3 not very good efforts and in crunch time team blows in August and September his WHOLE tenure. It was a first place team because only because it was run into the ground. Youk fell apart, Dunn kept striking out, Paulie had wrist surgery and Liriano was a bust. Didn't they have a ridiculous number of rookie bullpen debuts that year? And last years team and this years team are short and not playing at full strength either. So far, none of Robins seasons has there been preseason expectations of success. Look at Joe Maddon's record before he had talent.

QUOTE (harkness @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 09:45 PM) Yeah because that Yankee roster so much better. Yeah our roster isn't all that special however there is 3 years to me is a pattern. Hope I'm wrong and all the "people with perspective" who don't blame RV are so correct as there level of smug. I'd gladly eat crow. They have a team ERA over 6.00 in the 8th inning and about 5.00 in the 9th. Eaton, Abreu, Gillaspie, Garcia, Sale all have spent time on the DL. Paulino and Johnson were total busts. I don't know how that all is Robin's fault. What should their record be?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 09:39 PM) Three seasons in charge. Three late season tank jobs. Is there any accountability? Check out the rosters then pop off.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 09:36 PM) Pen allowed one run tonight. Offense squandered baserunners all night long. Greg Walker sucks.

QUOTE (harkness @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 09:34 PM) another Ventura squad floundering down the stretch. I love Robin, his sense of humor... demeanor. But he is absolutely not a major league manager. LOL.

Why I don't think he should be safe, if they reversed the play in SF, there is no way they shouldn't have reversed this one.

I wonder if JR played hardball with the umpire union.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 07:21 PM) Teams putting a shift on Danks is comical. Easy bunt single. It really is. Giving him an easy hit is stupid. It isn't like he is going to hurt you if you play him straight up. It was great that he recognized it,