Dick Allen

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:43 PM) Ken Griffey Jr. He's available. They may want to move him to CF. KW thinks that's easier on the legs.

Nate Jones back to looking good after a couple of bad outings.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:40 PM) I'm sure there are some teams that see what you see. I'd trade him to them. So the proverbial non answer. Who would then play LF? What would it take getting back for you to trade Viciedo?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:34 PM) Hah...you're saying he's going to be an incredible player but has no trade value. I'm saying he should have trade value, if most of the scouts believe what you and Balta and countless others are saying. I'm not saying that at all. I say don't trade him. He's going to be a nice hitter, quite possibly a monster. Still learning, he's on pace right now for 30 homers. The Sox need all the offense they can get, and he's cost controlled for the foreseeable future. The correct question is what is his trade value if most scouts believe what you think? Or are you just smarter than everyone else?

Lou Pinella was doing the game yesterday for YES. He likes Dunn but thinks he should bat 6th.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:33 PM) Again, I'm not saying Dayan isn't going to improve or be a solid player. I'm saying he's not going to ever fulfill the expectations you guys have for him. It's a big distinction that many of you seem too stubborn to accept. Then wouldn't other teams feel the same way and negotiate accordingly?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:30 PM) And why can we not get anything back in trade? Why? Because the result is the same week after week. He's the same player he was 2 years ago, all he does is swings as hard as he f***ing can.......You're saying he's not worth all that much but expect a big return. Talk about nonsense.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) Who the f*** cares Same results week after week. Didn't show any tendency towards improving. He's 23 but so the f*** what, what does that have anything to do with it? Sorry to be showing you examples of guys who weren't worldbeaters as 23 year olds who became good players. Another you might want to look at is Sammy Sosa, who improved before he started juicing.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) You guys can keep making up horses*** about how he is showing such a vast improvement...honestly, I hope you're right...but the result is the same week after week after week after week.... It doesn't happen as quickly as we all want it to, but it does happen.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:23 PM) Yes, his 11 walks are a real indicator of how selective he has become. Keep in mind no one is saying we should guillotine him. We're saying trade him. Carlos Lee walked 13 times in about 500 plate appearances as a 23 year old.

The Sox looking for an at em ball

Robin has an off day tomorrow. I don't agree with bring Floyd back this inning. The Sox will be lucky to still be in the game after this inning.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:59 PM) It's an invalid excuse. Show me that you can f***ing learn and improve. Just like your boy Alex Rios did as a 27 year old in 2009 and a 29 year old in 2011?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:53 PM) One more inning? 109 pitches, you've been playing with fire for several innings. I think you're just asking for GAME OVER trotting him out there one more time.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:50 PM) Not a terrible outing after all He gave up 4 runs. Didn't you say yesterday that means he deserves to lose? Considering what had to happen to keep the total at 4 while only recording 15 outs, I'd say it was a terrible outing.

That has to be it for Gavin. He was Houdini today to only give up 4.

As bad as he's been, at this point he's given up less runs vs. NY than Quintana.

I'm all for as many White Sox playing in the ASG as possible, except for pitchers and catchers. AJ not making it is a blessing.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:43 PM) I do not give Peavy much of a shot to be voted in................Darvish will get it IMO. Peavy getting rest is better off. He doesn't need the accolade.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:38 PM) It's been pretty obvious. Every time Gavin drifts, coop comes out and reams him out. He then has success again until he drifts again. You and this Greg Walker bulls*** has gotten just as bad as the financial nonsense. I never mentioned the former hitting coach, but if he's not getting through to Gavin, how come its not his fault? You're the one spewing nonsense.

I think Dunn could hit a pop up out of Yankee Stadium.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:34 PM) That's why I hated hated hated to see mark go. He's like a pitching coach on the mound. The reality is most hated to see Buehrle go except for vendors.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:33 PM) How the hell do you know this to be fact? What in the world are u talking about? Coop is God. Anything good from pitchers, its because of him. Anything bad, its quite obvious pitchers just aren't listening to him.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:30 PM) Floyd is moving much quicker in this inning. as a result he seems to be placing his pitches much better. Most Sox pitchers pitch a lot better when they pitch at a brisk pace.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) He had a rep with the Phillies..........KW should of shipped his ass earlier. I agree, but got blasted for years having that opinion.