Dick Allen

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:16 PM) Bernstein stood by his stance that there are a lot of people who still hate Santo. A lot of people hate Bernstein. I wonder if he thinks his loved ones would appreciate some punk mentioning that the day he dies. Classless. The guy is dead. Let it go Dan.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:00 PM) The best part of the Cowley thing was that he was on the SCORE talking about how Olivio was looking to have a good shot and AJ was gone.....what a douche. This morning he was defending the Ozeroo's decision to go with the rotating GM. His point was that it was an organizational move not a OG move. I thought it was obvious that KW was allowing OG to try this way of doing things. I guess I could have been wrong..... When Kotsay hit his 5th homer, I believe Thome also had 5 and Oney tweeted, "looks like the skipper made the right decision about the DH". When Kotsay went bad and Thome took off, it was an organizational decision.

RIP. Thoughts to all those that loved him, and there were many who did. As to his HOF potential, my hatred of the Cubs and the fact they have a lot of HOFers made me think he can't be a HOFer, even though I really never saw him play, but I don't know when he's eligible again or even if he's ever eligible, if anyone changes his vote now that he's gone and he gets in, shame on them. Not for letting him in, but for not letting him in when he could have enjoyed it.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:42 AM) The nice thing is there are several options at first base, some better than others, but still several solid choices to choose from. I would be very hesitant in the long run... which is the ultimate goal for any business/franchise. People are throwing around the idea of a large commitment to konerko, on top of two huge commitments to rios and dunn? The sox have one of the biggest question marks in the game with all things considered in peavy. Peavy is guaranteed 33 million over the next two years to be nothing more than what i already mentioned, a question mark. A smart move has to be made. A smart move, in my opinion, is not retaining a player at 10+ million for 3 years, given our situation. Floyd/ danks will eventually get paid, and get paid well, soon. Let's say quentin just so happens to tear the cover off the ball (one of the leagues bests) this up coming season. Unrealistic? Yes, probably. Beyond belief? No. But the man would be paid, and he would be paid by the white sox. These things have to be considered. There is a ton of money potentially locked up in only a select few. One or two more long term, extremely expensive contracts, over the next two seasons will be enough to cripple this team for many years to come. I see someone coming in on a one year deal, and there very well could/will be an option for a second year. If not, a straight up two year deal can not be written out of the equation for whoever is brought in. I'm not against what happened today, i'm all for it, but what people have to remember is there will always be three sides to every story ever told. But when you really have to extend Danks and Floyd, chances are Buerhle, Jackson and Peavy will be off the books. It doesn't help that guys like Jordan Danks and Flowers appear to be close to useless. Hopefully Mitchell can play over his injury. I don't think the Sox should go 3 years with Konerko.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 02:14 AM) I don't understand how anybody would want Pena on our team. Konerko over Lee. Exactly my thoughts since money doesn't appear to be an issue.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 09:30 PM) Why trade him when his value is at its lowest? A bucket of the Col. is pretty nice.

QUOTE (sircaffey @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 06:30 PM) How many times did a throw pull PK off the base that wouldn't pull Adam Dunn off the base? If you have MLB Network, watch the Hot Stove show if its replayed tonight. They have a clip of Dunn playing 1B. Its a scared straight clip like the movies of black lungs they would show you in high school so you wouldn't even think about smoking. While I know you can make a clip of just about anyone for 10 plays or so and make it look scary, not as scary as this one looked. Dunn is a terrible defensive 1B. Awful. If they told him he can play there once or twice a week to keep him happy, you could probably live with that, but with the way Alexei loses his concentration, you would easily add 10 errors to his total, not to mention anyone else.

MLB Network showed some lowlights of Dunn playing 1B. There were some plays you don't see much in Little League. Supposedly he has been in contact with Konerko and is OK DHing.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 04:48 PM) Am I really the only one who doesn't care for this move? Great, we're building the team to be station to station, hit home runs or get shut out. Haven't we gone through this all before? The White Sox DH OPS last season was .728. This move improves the team as long as they either re-sign Konerko or replace him with a competent hitter.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 04:42 PM) 3-4-5 could look like: Rios Dunn Konerko or Rios Konerko Dunn That's a hell of a trio. Alex Rios isn't a 3 hitter.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 04:42 PM) the 2nd coming of Luzinksi! He's Jim Thome Jr.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 04:39 PM) KW says they have room for both Dunn and Konerko, and that would be the ideal fit. - Cowley Will this put an end to the Sox make no money talk?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 04:40 PM) I hope I'm wrong, but my guess is this means bye-bye Gavin.... He could be gone, but I think he only makes $5 million in 2011.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) I would think one of Buehrle/Peavy/Rios/Jackson HAVE to be traded if the Sox truly intend of bringing Konerko back. Also, interesting that Dunn's starting point was 4yr/$60, and he took $56. Wonder if he agreed to it so long as they throw that $4M to Paulie. They gave it to Manny.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 04:21 PM) I think they are trading a starting pitcher. Maybe Edwin Jackson. He was the bait to get Dunn in July.

QUOTE (kane0730 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 04:03 PM) While not a base stealer, Dunn isn't considered a base clogger, right? He's not in the AJ, Thome, and Kong class, right? He's a little quicker than Thome and Konerko, but he is a clogger.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:48 PM) Dunn at 4/56 and Konerko possibly close? Wow. I won't hold my breath but boy that would be a nice lineup. Supposedly Detroit is in the mix for Werth. I wonder if this is a keeping up with the Joneses type of thing.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:40 PM) Trades don't happen with the highest bidder? Unless its a straight sale, players are involved. This is strickly money, and of course the draft pick.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:31 PM) Oh come on fathom...you've defined it to the point that it's just meaningless. Half the other teams in the AL could have had Rios and none of them wanted him at that cost (and no other teams were reported to put in a claim on him either). Peavy was known to be available for months before we traded for him, and no other teams met the price. The teams that could afford Rios claimed after the Sox. Not that they would have. Also no NL team was able to claim him. Not that they would have. Peavy was injured. Neither is the same as getting a free agent on the open market. I'm not saying its a bad thing, SS2k5 just always assumes that. But it is a first for KW.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:29 PM) Unless you actually go back and include moves like Rios, where they essentially signed him to a 5 years 60ish million dollar contract by getting him off of waivers, or the Peavy deal, where they not only assumed his contract, but gave up players to do it. Sure it sounds better when you make it sound bad, but the reality is that the Sox have brought in lots of big dollar guys, both from the inside and outside. But not during free agency when the guy basically goes to the highest bidder. This is a very unusual way the White Sox have used to acquire high priced guys really since the first couple of seasons of JR's ownership with the exception of Belle. They went after Fisk and Bannister, but since then, they really haven't been very active with the most expensive FA.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:27 PM) The internet must be working in his moms basement again. The funny thing is, he's actually at his parent's house.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:24 PM) This is exactly type of the move i need from this organization to get my confidence in the team back. Dunn would be an outstanding addition to the club. It would be the first major FA signing, with another team's FA, since Albert Belle. There were some decent names signed as free agents, Dye being one, but he was in the bargain bin. It would be the first time KW shelled out more than $20 million for another guy's FA ever.

Heyman is now saying they are closing in on Dunn and still negotiating with Konerko. Maybe JR has a few Little Ceasers franchises he hasn't mentioned before.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:21 PM) Cowley: Yes, the Adam Dunn talk is very legit, and building steam. How many hours after he posted the Kids Can Play part 2?

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 02:51 PM) Eh, he was pretty damn solid after the AS break last season. Add that to his + glove and if you can get him at some sort of a discount, he'd be a very nice signing. He had a nice 2009 season. He played hurt last year, and should be fairly cheap. He knows the city and Ozzie from the Marlin days. It makes so much sense it probably won't happen.