Dick Allen

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 06:57 PM) ? That Nix was the greatest defensive secondbaseman he ever saw.

QUOTE (joejoedairy @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 06:57 PM) that was an airmail throw by victor And that was airmailed by Beckham.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 06:56 PM) Nix or Norberto Martin? Its amazing how people take Carney Lansford's statement for gospel.

QUOTE (Wise Master Buehrle @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 06:54 PM) NIx f***ed that up. Throw it home!!!!! What's the UZR rating on that one?

Will the Sox be .500 when they return home Sept. 4? Will they be .500 when season ticketholder playoff money is due Sept.2?

QUOTE (Baines3 @ Aug 23, 2009 -> 05:14 PM) Buehrle hasn't won a game since throwing the perfect game. We're in real trouble right now. I'm shocked no one has mentioned that he should be DFA, or at the very least, heavily shopped this offseason.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 23, 2009 -> 12:29 PM) If he continues to slump through next month, I don't think that he'll be brought back next year. Thome's not making much of a case for playing here next year either, with his slower bat (from what I've seen) and age-related nagging injuries. That said, JT would be more likely willing to sign a one-year deal this winter, so my money is on him right now. That said, both of these guys are on the down-slopes of their careers and the Sox desperately need a younger offense. I'd much rather see Kenny bring in somebody like Blalock to play 1B or DH, and kick both of these dinosaurs to the curb. I'm puzzled by your criticizm of Thome. Not making a case for playing here seems harsh. His OPS this season is over .900. Check out Jim Thome this year vs. Josh Fields in 2007 when so many just assumed he was going to be a star, if not already one.

Peavy's rehab start got pushed back until Monday. Back stiffness.

Dye's out of the line-up today. Castro is playing, so is Lillibridge.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 23, 2009 -> 11:29 AM) or the lack of intensity in the third game of a series when going for a sweep! That's why I thought Friday night's loss was no big deal. They have a much better chance to win today because of it. Chances are, if they won Friday, they would lose today. Its been the MO of the team.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 23, 2009 -> 03:03 AM) True, the Sox seem to play to the level of their competition. Which is very frustrating. Everyone is saying this, the broadcasters, even Brooks Boyer said it. I know if Jerry Manuel were managing the team, he would get some heat for it. I wonder why Ozzie gets a free pass. Isn't he supposed to be a great motivator? If its Greg Walker's fault guys don't hit, shouldn't it be Ozzie's fault if they aren't mentally prepared to play? If the current roster can't use their current status as a second place team on the outside looking in to the playoffs as motivation to get up to play teams they should walk all over, it makes you think the Sox need to make several changes.

I know if the choice for 2010 was Dye or Thome 2 months ago, the majority would take Dye. In fact, it probably would have been a landslide. I wonder if that's still the case. I think Dye will pick it up offensively, but defensively he seems to be getting deeper in quicksand every day. Last night, he didn't know how many outs there were, AGAIN. Fortunately, there were 3. I just hope he can bear down the final 40 games.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Aug 22, 2009 -> 06:07 PM) The entire Swisher escapade should make Kenny blush. Also, the Keith Foulke trade to Oakland for whatshisname, made worse when Kenny gave him $6MM. Foulke still had 2-3 good years left. While I criticize KW from time to time (mostly because there are so many people who think he can do no wrong) picking out 2 trades in 9 years is a bit ridiculous. Everyone screws up. I still think in the long run the Swisher trade isn't as bad as you think. He's not a CF and didn't have a place to play on the White Sox. They got out of his contract. We'll see how he does the next several years. Rios probably isn't a White Sox if Swisher is around, and he's a better player, and they did use the money they saved this year to sign Viciedo. The Foulke trade was bad at the time, the Sox may have won the WS in 2003 or 2004 if they kept him, but Cotts did help them win in 2005 even if Koch was done when they acquired him. May vs. did, I'll take the did anytime. So many bad trades wind up decently. When Hawk was GM, he was criticized for trading Bobby Bonilla for Jose DeLeon. DeLeon was a decent pitcher who eventually turned into Lance Johnson. A guy that helped the Sox win a lot of games. Hawk supposedly ruined the White Sox, a team not good enough to win previously when they had Britt Burns (who never pitched again) and Tom Seaver (who didn't wan't to play in the midwest anymore) and Bob James (who fell apart) leading their pitching staff in 1985. He also acquired Ivan Calderon for almost nothing, and Calderon help the Sox have a great season in 1990, before he was turned into Tim Raines. He was also criticized for turning over the scouting dept., the department that drafted Kurt Brown over Barry Bonds. I'm using Hawk as an example of grading the Swisher trade. Its waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy to early to grade it. Granted Betemit and Marquez aren't long for getting paid to play baseball, but what if Viciedo becomes a star? What if Nunez becomes dominant? Perhaps those are longshots, but what if Rios outplays Swisher for years? That's almost a guarantee.

Maybe its not. He just muttered "un f***ing belieable"

If it is bothering him, Danks should have said something. The Sox can't afford to lose games.

He can't throw a breaking pitch for a strike.

QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Aug 22, 2009 -> 06:54 PM) I don't think that a circulatory issue is really that easy to just take care of with a DL trip. I don't know what the cure is, if there's a cure. I just hope its not a career threatening thing, because its not something he can pitch with.

I just hope this is an issue that can be easily fixed.

They need to get someone ready.

Bad defense again.

QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Aug 22, 2009 -> 06:50 PM) Stone Pony has pointed out that it is a cool night and Dank is sticking his pitching hand in his back pocket. He thinks that Danks is being bothered by the circulatory issue. If you notice how he's been messing with his hand all game, I think he's correct.

Danks has been messing with his hand all game. I think he's having problems.

So if they won last night, I'm guessing we wouldn't see this thread.

I don't have a problem with them jacking up prices for the Red Sox tickets. In the past few years, the park has been filled with Red Sox fans. I think this concession deal is very nice.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Aug 22, 2009 -> 07:26 AM) with the probability of the sox not spending much this offseason after the peavy and rios acquisitions, the only way id give up on fields this offseason is if i'm absolutely sold on chris getz or jayson nix at 2b.....and i'm not sold on either The Sox are.