Dick Allen

For all the crap Getz gets around here, he's probably in the top 5 for ROY voting.

Nix does walk a lot.

Its a natural reaction to reach for a ball like Bartman did. If he wasn't sitting there some other knucklehead's name would live forever. The only thing that will keep someone from reaching for a ball now is the Bartman incident.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 1, 2009 -> 04:31 PM) thanks. how was burls on the trade? sun times tried to make it sound like he had mixed feelings He was fine, although he did mention what a great guy Richard is. I think Buerhle enjoyed taking Clayton under his wing.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 1, 2009 -> 04:25 PM) for those of us not getting the feed, any comments on the peavy deal or are they too busy slurping the bombers? Brennaman does a good job not doing that. He usually gives the White Sox their due and today is no exception.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Aug 1, 2009 -> 04:20 PM) To be fair he's a 2B I could see that as an excuse if all his problems were throws, but he's been botching grounders. The first one they gave him an error on the throw after he double clutched and threw it away. Last night he fumbled the ball, as he did this last one.

Nix apparently went to the Wilson Betemit school to learn how to play SS. He's lucky they didn't give him 2 errors on the Texiera ball.

In Minnesota, they have Market Mondays where the price of a lower level outfield seat is determined by the DJIA. I was there this past week and bought the ticket when the dow was in the 8000s so the tickets were $8 a piece. Tuesdays they are half priced in the same sections so $10.50. When the Sox play at home against Minnesota in Sept., the Monday game is half priced so $17 and the Tuesday game is $34. You're looking at $18.50 vs. $51 per seat for comparable seats for 2 games. Family of 4 thats $74 vs. $204. The White Sox have very expensive tickets. Unless you want to sit in the upper deck in the corners, you're going to pay a ton of money. With season ticketholders gobbling up most of the better seats, and the arrival of HDTV and the economy, I think more are apt to sit back, relax and strap it down on their couch.

Nunez Up; Lillbridge Down SoxNet Anyday Lilli is knocked off the roster one of my dreams comes true.

As far as worrying what USCF will do to Peavy's ERA, its interesting to note Gavin Floyd's ERA at USCF is almost 3.00 LOWER than it is everywhere else. Buerhle's ERA is about HALF what it is on the road. Contreras' ERA at USCF lower than on the road, Danks ERA at home, lower than on the road. Only Richard had a higher ERA at home. I really doubt moving to USCF if going to make Jake Peavy a gas can. This is a trade that should satisfy everyone. Those wanting to win this year, chances are it wasn't going to happen with the roster as is, acquiring an ace is pretty sweet, the only problem is if and when he can pitch this year. Those looking to blow up the team, well the Sox at the very least make a great start towards 2010. No one can argue Peavy, Buerhle, Danks and Floyd is difficult to match let alone beat, and pitching wins.

The fact that some are upset Clayton Richard was traded for Jake Peavy is behind comprehension for me. Also keep in mind Peavy is only a year and a half older than Richard. This trade, assuming Peavy returns at 100% is a steal. Once Peavy shows he's healthy, KW could trade him for a lot more than he gave up.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 10:29 PM) Would KW dare to give Contreras a one year, incentive-laden contract for $3-5 million plus incentives to be the 5th starter (and keep him around Viciedo and Ramirez)? Are Torres or Hudson ready? Should they bring in a Jon Garland/D. Davis/Paul Byrd type for one year, like they tried with Colon this season as a low-risk roll of the dice. I'm sure Freddy Garcia will be in the mix if he shows anything when he returns.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 07:06 PM) Let me introduce you to El Gran Titan de Bronze, the "ace" in all of baseball for 4 months over 05/06. On the other hand, he really learned from giving up a "future ace" in Kip Wells for what he thought was a 3 starter in Todd Ritchie. He was also interested in AJ Burnett at one point, if I remember correctly. The other thing is, KW has never been burned trading for aces, even like in David Wells case when it didn't work out. Sirotka never pitched again. Simmons was so bad in Toronto the Sox actually re-signed him and then released him and Kevin Bierne was nothing. So it was nothing for nothing.

QUOTE (3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 04:57 PM) I was off on thinking the Peavy thing was a farce, I'm still surprised SD took this deal! Kenny was just on MLBNetwork, he confirmed there was one time they were completely all out of ideas and that he called them up to solicit ideas At the time he texted Reynolds, the Peavy trade was being made. So KW was playing with them.

QUOTE (whitesoxmanager @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 06:53 PM) look it up guysmiley. find the game and score. he NEVER did jack in any game that mattered. that doesnt matter to you? The Padres won 89 games in 2007. Peavy won the Cy Young. There were only 6 starts he gave up as many as 4 ER only 2 he gave up more than 4. I would think there was some game that mattered where he did pretty well. But your right. Richard, Poreda, Russell and Carter are all going to probably be better than him.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 06:50 PM) Saying Carter would be on the roster in September means they have no clue. He didn't say Carter would be on the roster in Sept. just the other 3.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 05:17 PM) Colon's bus is waiting... Actually, they could really use him until Peavy returns. Who is pitching for the Sox first, Garcia or Peavy?

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 05:11 PM) Absolutely. Say what you want about his player development, but the dude is second-to-none when it comes to getting outstanding value in trades. I don't know about that yet. Obviously, if Peavy returns to form, this is an absolute steal personnel-wise, but who knows when that will be. He has always wanted an ace, that's what he goes for. Wells, Colon, Garcia, Peavy twice. Those are just the ones he got done. He's probably asked about every ace in baseball.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 05:06 PM) While it's true that Peavy benefited from pitching in a pitchers park as well as pitching in the NL, one thing to remember is he is still only 27 years old. He still has a little more time to actually improve which may result in him being almost as effective in the AL as he has been in the NL. Think of it as a 27 year old prospect who has just been promoted from AAAA to the Major Leagues. Peavy is only a year and a half older than Clayton Richard.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 05:07 PM) I hope this stops the "the White Sox are an org nobody wants anything to do with" BS. Peavy negotiated a NTC and probably took a little less money to resign with the Padres. I don't mind at all that he waited a little bit. the top 4 in our rotation could be a good selling point to a veteran FA if money is basically equal Actually, who knows if he gets hurt if he says yes initially, and if he doesn't, the White Sox are probably a couple games better than where they are now.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 04:58 PM) Hopefully this will get you and many others to stop calling the Sox cheap. It does show that they weren't being straight when they said they were right up against the budget, so if Peavy said no again and they did nothing, cheap would have be appropriate. I'm surprised no one has ripped the Sox for making this deal for an injured player without a physical.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 03:33 PM) Great deal by Kenny, Richard decided to pitch well at the right time again for us. I cant say im all that sorry to see Poreda go. Glad we kept Hudson as well. Excellent timing for Richard. Poreda looks like a LOOGY to me. Its a freaking steal if Peavy is Peavy the rest of the contract.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 03:33 PM) Great deal by Kenny, Richard decided to pitch well at the right time again for us. I cant say im all that sorry to see Poreda go. Glad we kept Hudson as well. Excellent timing for Richard. Poreda looks like a LOOGY to me. Its a freaking steal if Peavy is Peavy the rest of the contract.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 03:32 PM) Unbelievable. Kenny haters need to retire 4 life. This changes the entire complexion of the division. Maybe not this season because who knows when Peavy can pitch and pitch effectively, but moving on, the rotation is stacked.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 03:32 PM) Unbelievable. Kenny haters need to retire 4 life. This changes the entire complexion of the division. Maybe not this season because who knows when Peavy can pitch and pitch effectively, but moving on, the rotation is stacked.