Dick Allen

You could see this coming. I wish it wasn't announced until after the deadline. KW's going to have to pay a little extra for a bat. Is there another break? I wouldn't be surprised if Frank is done.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 11:20 AM) Trading Crede, Rowand or even Politte are the things I worry about. Those moves will undoubtedly affect chemistry and alter the whole "Team" thing we have going on right now. If they are traded for better players, I'd take my chances on the chemistry thing. As far as feeling bad for guys when they are traded, they just need to suck it up and move along. The business is cold, but the players are paid handsomely for all their inconveniences. If they don't like it, there are plenty of people willing to take their place, and plenty of other things they can do with their lives.

He has missed events, that was mis-reported. He does have a problem with Sandberg going to the HOF though. I think because this is well known, its probably for the best that he's not there. You know that would be a huge topic.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 09:17 AM) wow, some people just dont get it, of course they care. if the team does better, they make more money. but the key here is that they dont want to spend money. youre right, they dont care if the team loses 100 as long as they get their money. BUT if the team can win 80 games, and ownership spends the same....lamarr and co. will make more money. so to say that they dont care at all if the team wins or not, but claim that they care about their money is complete ignorance I think the point was they are happy with the current situation, and wouldn't want to spend more money to make their team more attractive and increase their profit on the chance it may not work.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 09:12 AM) I'd be OK with Vegas.. might be relocating there PT in the near future and then I wouldn't spend so much $$ on travel to see games. OT.. woo hoo.. I'm going to B'more tonight. As soon as the NBA or MLB put a team there, the other one will follow. Its going to happen. If anyone has seen drawings of the proposed baseball stadium there, its has such a huge amount of suites, it looks like there are hardly any seats. Hangar18 of WSI would be outraged.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 09:05 AM) If it's relocation, Las Vegas probably makes the most sense for them. You could just have a 4 team AL East and a 5 team AL West, instead of a 5 team AL East and a 4 team AL West. There really is a shortage of cities to place a team. Las Vegas has to be at the top. Maybe Portland, that's about it. The one place I think that makes the most sense but I doubt it will ever happen is placing another team in NYC. And if the contract a team, they have to contract at least 2, can't have an odd number of teams in baseball like you can in the other sports.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 08:25 AM) Like I said earlier the majority of those blown saves will have come from when he's pitched more than 1 inning. 4/22 - 2.2 IP 5/13 - 2.2 IP 5/17 - 1.1 IP 5/30 - 1 IP 6/4 - 1.2 IP 6/8 - 1.1 IP 7/26 - 2 IP He also blew 10 saves with Cleveland in 2003. This guy is not who you want on the mound with the game on the line.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 08:20 AM) Jenks is the sexy new prospect. We get it. But, think outside the box folks. If you're able to use Jenks to acquire a guy like Wagner, you do it in half a heartbeat, no questions asked. We needs someone with veteran/post-season expierence and Jenks ain't it. I'm not saying the guy can't contribute this season, but he won't be able to contribute on the same level as say, Billy Wagner. If Jenks grew a shaggy beard, he be Bob James.

Why would anyone think Baez would be a bullpen upgrade? The guy has 7 blown saves this year. Shingo was 8 for 9 in save chances. If you've been frustrated by Marte, Shingo and Vizcaino, you'll be equally frustrated by Mr. Baez. And on top of that, adding a guy like Embree? You guys must be masochists.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 08:06 AM) Baez's numbers arent all that good. For what Lamar is asking I wouldnt go for it. I would rather make a pitch for Overbay from the Brewers. What is Lamar asking? I can assure you KW would not trade Marte for Baez straight up, let alone sweetening the pot.

They aren't going to trade him now unless they get equal talent back. In the offseason when the Red Sox would have free agents to go after, you would be able to get Ramirez for a song if you were willing to pick up his contract. 2 years ago they placed him on irrevocable waivers. If anybody claimed him, he was their's. Even the Yankees said no. Depending upon how much of the Yankee payroll comes off the books this offseason, I wouldn't be shocked if they did it again.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Jul 28, 2005 -> 03:59 PM) Do you guys mean Todd Jones? He was writing columns for Sporting News and still does. He is also the closer for the Marlins. No Doug Jones was a closer with the Indians, and pitched for several other teams. He couldn't break a pane of glass with one of his pitches, but he had a great change and located well. He looked like a weekend softball player and had one of those moustaches you have to lift up with one hand while you shove food in your mouth with the other.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jul 28, 2005 -> 03:44 PM) He was effective for how many years in Japan? MLB figured him out in 1 year, lmao. His control was not what it was last year. If he gets that back, and he did have it back for a while this season, he still would be fooling hitters. His strikeout rate is still pretty high. IIRC its still over 1 an inning, and considering he throws nowhere near 95, the hitters don't have him totally figured out. Doug Jones went through a year or two of being tatooed and he was the same kind of pitcher Shingo was. He came back, I believe Shingo can as well.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 28, 2005 -> 12:32 PM) Official??? Apparently. There is a press release on whitesox.com saying he's been optioned to Charlotte. The Score is reporting he is going there.

Shingo's going to Charlotte. Gong.

Is HGH not in the MLB Policy or just not tested for? What difference it makes I don't know, but I'm just curious.

The White Sox could really use some more bullpen help, and some more offense. I've never seen the point of acquiring Burnett............unless he nets you Wagner.

The reason the White Sox are winning has nothing to do with this new offense being more "balanced". That's been pure BS. They have manufactured runs a little better than in the past, but its still not consistent. They still rely on the homerun, a lot more than they and their broadcasters want you to believe. Podsednik is stealing bases, perhaps wreeking havoc on pitchers, but he's only on pace to score 92 runs. That's not that many for a successful leadoff hitter on a team with the White Sox record. Lee and Ordonez were .300 hitters, to go along with their power. Losing Valentin might have balanced it a bit, but Uribe is really struggling. The reason the White Sox have the record they do is the pitching, and only the pitching. If the pitching were this good in 2003, the White Sox would have been in the playoffs and perhaps won the World Series. Jerry Manuel would still be a manager, and you still would not ever of heard the term Ozzieball. There's no reason to panic, this formula appears to be working.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 08:24 PM) Gordon was overworked last year, and just isn't the same. I loved him with the Sox back in 2003, but I don't think he's worth giving up a guy who we are depending on onfe the postseason starts. He had a tough start, but he's been great the last 3 months. ERA about 2.00. Averaging a strikeout an inning. He can also close.

QUOTE(whitesox89 @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 07:58 PM) Sorry to start another topic. But these are the guys I want. On Baseball Prospectus Will Carroll thinks we could be getting Jorge Cantu also. Heres some interesting lines on the Sox in regards to these guys Aubrey Huff, who seems destined to be a White Sock. Don't be surprised if Jorge Cantu ends up involved in a deal as well. Heres a link http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=4258 This article says Soriano was pulled from the line up tonight, but he's playing.

QUOTE(Goldmember @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 08:16 PM) link So this is an old story. It said the Marlins had not agreed to it as of late Monday.

I will be shocked if KW doesn't bring in an impact player or 2 before the deadline. The White Sox know that this season is probably their best chance for a title.

This is weird. Jenks fastball has deserted him, but his hammer is better than ever.

Pods gets picked off way too much.

Pods gets picked off way too much.