Dick Allen

Always remember if the woman has an apple, (s)he also has a banana.

I think it all depends on the situation. ARod got how many more million chosing to play for Texas? He got ripped, but the dollar figure was staggering, you can't blame him. Most of these guys are away from their families almost the entire season, so some choose to be with them an additional 6 weeks and pick a team that trains by where they live. Even Magglio, who is ripped over and over again, did get more money from Detroit than most thought he could get if he had no health questions. It looks like he got $15 million more than the White Sox offered back when he was healthy. He'll probably never need that extra $15 million, but what if he did? He can't be blamed for taking the money, and Boras did deliver for him. Albert Belle was making a pretty good living on the southside and was very comfortable with Jerry Manuel. He left for more money and more years due to an unusual clause in his contract. His health deteriorates, and his career ends. He gets the extra $30 million or so that he wouldn't have gotten had he chose to stay with the White Sox. That clause worked out unbelievably well for both the Sox and Belle. You can never blame the player for taking the money. Their career could be over tomorrow.

I've got a Tivo and a digital RCN box which both delay the games a second or 2 on television, so listening to the radio broadcast while watching on TV is out of the question. Besides, I like to hear a few "he gones" during the game. And with all due respect to John Rooney,(whoever they hire will be a downgrade) if I am only able to listen to the game on the radio, I will listen no matter who the PBP man is, and no matter who is doing the color.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 04:34 PM) I said nothing of cancer - I don't know they guy. But I did absolutely say selfish and lazy, because of what I can see with my own eyes. He's lazy in that he doesn't run out plays hitting or in the outfield, and he's selfish in that he constantly complains, as if he has it tougher than everyone else. Given the strength of Ozzie's clubhouse, I see no reason to bring in someone like that. Like she said, for all the bad that is perceived about the guy, he obviously doesn't run balls out, and takes lazy and bad routes to balls in the field ( if you watch closely you will find out most major leaguers don't run balls out all that hard, including many White Sox) he is loved by teammates and fans of the teams he plays on. I truly believe if the talent KW had to give to get him and the amount of money they had to pay him weren't so high, he would be salivating over this guy.

If selfish and lazy gets you 45 homers and 140 rbi, I'd take it anyday. Manny is not the cancer people think he is. KW may not want him, but it is only because of the amount he would have to pay for him and to him. Believe me, the entire American League is praying he gets shipped to the NL. He is nowhere near the cancer people make him out to be. He owns as many WS rings as anyone on the White Sox roster.

IIRC Rooney had a shot at the Cardinals job a couple of years ago, but declined to pursue it because of his loyalty to the White Sox and he had a couple of years left on his contract. I don't know him at all, but if this really was his dream job, contratulations to him, the declining to pursue the job a couple of years ago would show what kind of character and class he really has.

QUOTE(Fingish @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 02:31 PM) Come on, he isn't accused of murder, he's accused of attempted murder. And of course we would have to know more about the situation than it is possible for us to know right now. ... I stand corrected. I still wouldn't want anyone who attempted to kill someone on the White Sox roster. Maybe he will be exonerated. I still wouldn't touch him with a 10 ft. pole, and I really wanted this guy when Detroit made him available.

Urbina was run out of Detroit for acting like a drunken asshole. Supposedly he had problems in Philadelphia, now he is facing a murder charge. Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. Its possible Urbina may be behind Venezuelan bars next baseball season. I don't understand how people can endorse trading for or signing a potential murderer, but have huge problems picking up guys who may have used steriods. Personally, I don't want any of them. I would have loved for the Sox to sign Urbina a couple of seasons ago, but he is pretty erratic both on and off the field at this point of his life. Don't try to compare him to Everett, or AJ or Jenks or anyone else the White Sox have reclimated. None of these guys have been accused of murder.

For a bunch of people who aren't supposed to give a s*** about the White Sox, we are seeing a lot of Cub fans with a need to write letters to newpapers showing how totally clueless they are. It used to bother me, but over the past year or so their BS just makes me laugh. World Champion White Sox-you would think these 4 words would shut them up.

I don't know what the French government can do at this point. Afterall, I was in Paris a few years ago when the unemployed went on strike looking for better benefits. They would stand in front of the entrances of the Louvre and other museums, and tourist destinations, not letting anyone in. They got their increased benefits.

I still don't understand why the giant concern with Sweeney's power numbers. Robin Ventura was 2 years older than Sweeney when he played at Birmingham and hit a whopping 3 homers in over 450 at bats. The power will come with this guy, he has a lot of talent.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 05:27 PM) It all depends on when and who replaces Kevin Towers. I figured Alderson would have replaced him with himself by now.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 05:21 PM) I read where the Padres took their 3 year $21 million offer to him off the table. They were hoping he would take a paycut. I'm sure if all things were equal he would want to be on the west coast, but if the money is there the White Sox could offer him a realistic chance at the World Series. Pursuing him would be worth KW's time IMO even if he did say no thank you.

Sign Giles and Konerko. Giles brings a little something the White Sox could use even though they won it all. He actually is disciplined at the plate. 119 walks vs. 64 strikeouts this season. 38 doubles. His homers were down but he should get a big bump with a move to USCF. The email I got from my rep mentioned unprecendented season ticket sales going on right now. Bust the budget a little bit. If the pitching is anywhere near what it was this year, adding Giles and getting better performances out of a few others would really make it hard for even ESPN not to give this team respect.

QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 05:03 PM) that may have been true for one of the seasons, but I know for a fact that I got a Bulls replica championship ring at a game for a giveaway. Ive never been a Bulls season ticketholder, and I wouldnt be surprised at all if Reinsdorf did the same thing for the Sox.....doubtful against the Cubs though. I don't see why people think this is some HUGE stretch, I dont know many teams that dont giveaway replica championship rings. They may give out some sort of replica ring, but you can bet the ranch it won't be given out at a game against the Cubs.

This rumor is false. I would imagine season ticketholders will get a replica ring or a mini world series trophy or something of the sort. I received them with the Bulls championships.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 02:45 PM) ***OFFICIAL*** http://whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/pr...t=.jsp&c_id=cws Frank isn't going to be anywhere near 100% anytime soon and KW isn't going to wait until he is at least close to that to improve the team. If Frank can come back, and it is a huge if, I would imagine he is KW's plan D or lower.

I think KW handing over the World Championship trophy to Frank at the rally was as sentimental as the White Sox are going to get with him. I think that was KW paying homage to him for his service. I doubt he is back with the Sox, if he is even able to come back at all.

No way. You would just be setting him up for another injury.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 04:30 PM) His agent is gonna be pushing hard for that no trade clause... thus the problem. They all do, but it will be interesting to see if someone gives him one. If not, his service time with the White Sox may actually help the Sox cause in re-signing him. I would love to see him back, but I think it would be silly giving him too many years. A guy like Paulie can get old quick and on the other hand he may age with the bat well. I am still very concerned with his hip, although it seems to have become a non issue the past couple seasons. I seriously doubt an NL team is going to give him the length his agent wants, it may take him 20 minutes to run to first base in 7 years.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 04:26 PM) How many no trade clauses have the sox offered in their history? Just doesn't happen. They wouldn't give him one. But if he wasn't traded the first 3 years of the contract, he would have an automatic one, just like the Big Hurt has had the last 4 seasons.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) The sox will definitely not offer konerko a trade clause either will the red sox. If the red sox signed konerko with a no trade clause other players on the red sox will get full and partial no trade clauses... it is already in some contracts that it kicks in. Red sox are out of the hunt for konerko and were never players for him in my opnion anyway. If Konerko signed back with the White Sox, he would only need a no trade for the first 3 years. After that he would be a 5 and 10 man and he would have the right to refuse a trade anyway.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 10:34 AM) Well if we save the money, at least we can look at a long term deal for Contreras and Garland this offseason. Then you'll also save for the future for a new deal for Buehrle, who has next year plus an option year left. How old do you think Contreras really is? There is no way he's anywhere near the 32 that is on his baseball card. But I agree, with the others.

The only way I would give Konerko anymore than 5 years, and really I think that is too long, is if those last couple years are based on performance the previous years. If he hit .220 with 12 homers, I would need the option to void the contract. That isn't going to happen. Paulie is going to have to accept a discounted contract to stay here I believe. Its still not out of the question he wouldn't despite what his father said. If he leaves the Sox will get someone decent to replace him.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 01:47 PM) Hands down: Paul Konerko's firstball-fastball grandslam in game two of the World Series. I was in attendance for that one and I honestly thought the place was going to go down. I've never, ever, ever been apart of such an electric sporting moment in my entire life. It was one of those things I'll never forget for the rest of my life. It was pure elation. Also, the Konerko slam trumped Podsednik's walk-off. It was not even close. I agree.