Dick Allen

Considering all the clamouring for Burnett on this board back in May and June, I specifically remember being told he was so much better than Contreras, its hard to believe anyone would think his new contract is anything but a bargain.

QUOTE(rowandrules83 @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 10:24 AM) i went to like 4 stores, including best buy, and none of them had it. does anyone know a store that would have it for sure? Its supposed to be on Comcast tonight at 7. Record it and you have it for free.

Orton has more NFL game experience than Grossman. Orton does seem to be regressing a bit. Obviously, we aren't around practice, and have seen so little of Grossman and really don't know how he looks right now, but if passes can't be completed, it may be time for Rex to get on the field. The Bears are legitimate Super Bowl contenders with an average offense. I just don't see them winning games in the playoffs with zero offensive touchdowns like today, or 1 offensive touchdown when the defense gets them the ball on the 1 yard line.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:34 PM) the BCS got it right this year though. Well in terms of the #1 and #2 teams. A chimp could have got it right this year.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:57 PM) same here...glaus + vazquez is a massive amount of money, if you ask me that would only ever even come close to happening in a 3 way trade Maybe Arizona is using strategy with Vazquez. Its doubtful there is a team out there that would be willing to pick up both his and Glaus' contracts. Vazquez demanded a trade so if he isn't traded by a certain date, he becomes a free agent. Given his performance the last couple of seasons, its hard to imagine he would be in line for a contract that pays him as much as his current one, so he either recinds the request, or Arizona lets him go and saves a ton of money.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:55 PM) Iowa lost to Michigan. Michigan beat Iowa at Iowa. That put a stop to Iowa's win streak at home. Look Michigan shouldn't be in this position because they didn't play well this season however they were much better than Iowa. Much better? They had the same record and beat Iowa by 3 when the Hawks weren't playing well. Iowa also blew a game in the last minute to Northwestern they should have won. Much better Michigan is not. The bottom line is that no matter what Michigan's fan base is, Iowa's travels more, and they want these fans in the stadium and spending money in their city. Iowa faced Florida 2 years ago when Zook was running Florida's program, and absolutely crushed them. I thought Trev Albert was going to go down on Ferentz the way he was talking him up.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:33 PM) f*** THIS s***!Didn't Michigan beat Iowa at Iowa! Go Hawks! Even a down year and Ferentz has his boys playing a major bowl.

QUOTE(TLAK @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 03:47 PM) You pretty much have it. It was 5 years ago so I couldn't find the article on the web. The White Sox offered what Boras initially had said it would take to sign him and then Boras rejected it, which stunned them. The Sox felt that Arod wasn't being told what was going on and tried to have meeting with him but Boras froze them out. He got an extra 60 million dollars out of the Rangers -rumor has it he got that by fabricating offers from other teams when they actually had dropped out. On the Fernandez deal, Boras told the Sox not make any offers until the free agency period. After Alex signed with the Marlins, he said he was miffed at the Sox for not trying to sign him earlier, he was obvously unaware of Boras' shenanagans. So again, the Sox thought Boras lied and screwed them. Add the Magglio tactics to this list and you can see why the White Sox would prefer not to deal with Boras. The White Sox never made an offer to ARod. They had one prepared but wanted to meet with ARod with Boras not in attendance. It wasn't allowed to happen, and so what. He got offered $252 million, probably almost double what any other team would have offered him. How could anyone blame him for taking that offer?

QUOTE(JimH @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 08:39 AM) Guillen wants somebody who can hit lefthanded in that role, so the focus is on Bill Mueller for now. Mueller may be headed to SF.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 3, 2005 -> 02:34 PM) He's a poor man's Mark Buerhle. Considering what some other very mediocre pitchers are getting, its amazing this guy isn't getting the interest, unless he and his agent are flying under the radar. I just read in a NY paper Washburn is rep'd by Boras. He is looking for $9 million a year for 5 years.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:23 AM) I first see the Cubs targetting a SS who can hit leadoff. Julio Lugo from the d-rays fits that. Then they might target Pierre. If the Cubs get Lugo, they'll still be looking for some LH Ofers who can hit w/ power. Lugo is supposedly earmarked for Atlanta. The beautiful thing about this is players are actually turning away the chance to play for Dusty in the Urinal. If you read the Tribune, you would think it is every player's dream to put on the Cubs uniform and play in that disaster area.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 3, 2005 -> 01:52 PM) I wonder why no one has made a push at Washburn. He's a lefty whose not very hold. He's puts in his innings and had a 3.20 ERA last year (albeit not a record to brag about). He may be the one guy thats a little under-valued at this point of FA (that or he's asking for a ridiculous contract). He's a poor man's Mark Buerhle. Considering what some other very mediocre pitchers are getting, its amazing this guy isn't getting the interest, unless he and his agent are flying under the radar.

QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 02:04 PM) I don't think we're specualting any more ESPN is reporting that Frank will be released. They probably mean he won't be offerred arbitration. He's a free agent, his option was declined. He can't be released.

Mayo is the most disgusting thing ever invented. I hate all salad dressing, saurkraut, not a huge fan of mustard, broccoli is sickening as is tuna.

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 07:08 AM) Forgive me.. kindof.. but I think I've said exactly that several times already. And, again, I don't know where you heard Frank and Kenny are "friends".. but aside from professional courtesy, they are not. "Friends" don't try to trade you away when they think their boss isn't looking... "friends" don't talk s*** about you to the media... and "friends" don't disclose personal rifts. Kenny has been nothing but UNPROFESSIONAL where Frank is concerned.. and was called on it a few years ago at Soxfest - - and admitted as much. Exactly. Despite perhaps an improved relationship between the two this past season, KW has been waiting for this day for several years. Fortunately for him, the circumstances made what has happened a no-brainer or this could have been real ugly, way uglier than the Ordonez departure if JR allowed it to happen. The White Sox could not possibly depend on Frank ever being healthy again.

I think you have to give a lot of credit for Paulie re-signing to White Sox fans who stepped up and bought season tickets at a fever clip this offseason. With the club level and scout seats sold out, these are a couple of the priciest areas and have generated some extra revenue for JR and KW to spend on players.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 02:25 PM) It's great we were able to bring him back and not have to trade the farm in order to find his replacement. That is a good point. I really thought he'd sign with the Angels.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 10:26 AM) We just won the World Series. Im not satisfied going into the season with our two hole hitter never playing a game in AAA. Sorry. The Sox won the WS with a closer who hadn't played above AA until August.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:46 PM) Exactly. We're looking to defend a World Championship. If we get a proven guy over a maybe guy, i'm all for it. After last season, Pierre would have to be considered a "maybe" guy himself. The Sox are going to have to work some of their prospects into the line-up somehow, or trade them. A healthy Thome with Konerko back would be an excellent opportunity to work a guy in with limited pressure to hit. I'm all for Anderson or Owens patrolling CF unless they want to really upgrade the postion and put an All Star out there. Paying Pierre $4 million and giving up talent for him while stunting the growth of your own prospects would be a mistake in my opinion.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 02:02 PM) 1994: Thomas .353 38HR 101 RBI Franco: .319 20 HR 98 RBI in stirke shortened year 1998: Thomas .265 29 HR 109 RBI Belle .328 49 HR 152 RBI 2000: Thomas .328 43 HR 143 RBI Ordonez .315 32 HR 126 RBI If you project those 1994 numbers, those 2 are both close to 150 rbi. Frank would be at about 50 homers, Franco probably 28. So productivity-wise Thomas/Franco is #1.

QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:44 PM) Thomas/Franco has got to be slightly better As far as production, there is no question.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:32 PM) Yeah, I don't see us making any trades until the trade deadline. Kenny loves having flexbility at the deadline unless someone proposes a deal to us that knocks our Sox off. Do you think last season's trouble trying to find someone to pull the trigger on a deal may change his philosophy a little? Obviously he wanted something more significant and was unable to do so, on the other hand he did win a World's championship. It would be interesting to see if it does have an effect on how he operates this season.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:23 PM) The Score is asking if Konerko/Thome will be the best back to back (in the line up) Sox players ever. It depends on how they do together. Before they played together and one struggled when the other didn't, Belle and Thomas was pretty impressive.

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:12 PM) I think Marte will go and Duque if someone is willing to eat some of that contract, outside of that I think KW is done and he did a GREAT job For Duque to be moved, the Sox would have to pick up most of his contract and not get much back. Considering the influence he has had on Contreras, it probably wouldn't be wise to move him.

QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:06 PM) I think there is a chance they still bring Frank back in a platoon role with Thome. Check out their splits. Frank hits better against lefties and Thome hits better against righites. I don't think KW would ship 2 pretty good pitching prospects plus a major league CF and pay the guy he gets $8 million a year to platoon. Frank Thomas---------he gone.